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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #40 on: 02/04/2015 05:40 am »
What about the unfamiliar Safir SLV on the poster behind Rouhani? I believe it is the SLV that was destroyed on 2012:

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #41 on: 02/04/2015 05:47 am »
Well spotted Comet! Unfortunately, none of the photos at

http://president.ir/en/84289

go low enough to show the serial number. Can anyone translate what this says on the side of the rocket?
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #42 on: 02/04/2015 10:40 am »
I think exactly the same as on the 2015 Feb 02 rocket -- Mahvare bar Safir Fajr, where mahvare = satellite.
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #43 on: 02/04/2015 10:59 am »
I believe the new name for this vehicle is Safir-e, as reported in

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13931113001060

This -e is a grammatical thing which may be understood as "belonging to". So, Safir-e Fajr = Safir belonging to Fajr, or Fajr's Safir.
Remember also Safir-e Omid ("Emissary of Hope") back in 2009.
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #44 on: 02/04/2015 11:43 am »
An EXCELLENT picture of the satellite:

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #46 on: 02/04/2015 02:42 pm »
Huh, I wonder where I got OES.0002 from. GBS.0092 seems an odd-one-out.
Not exactly -- vehicle GBS.0095 is on display at the Tehran military museum open-air site.
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #47 on: 02/04/2015 07:02 pm »
I believe the new name for this vehicle is Safir-e, as reported in

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13931113001060

The first Safir was a suborbital launch and had serial HUS.0001.

http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_1/Rest_World/Safir-1-IRILV/Gallery/Safir_HUS.htm

I believe the "e" in  "Safir-e-Fajr" and  "Safir-e-Omid" is a connecting word and not part of the rocket name.
Farsi speakers perhaps can comment.
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #48 on: 02/04/2015 08:01 pm »
The distant shots of the launch at ground level demonstrate the advantages of firing rockets from places with naturally-occurring berms!

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #49 on: 02/05/2015 05:20 am »
I believe the "e" in  "Safir-e-Fajr" and  "Safir-e-Omid" is a connecting word and not part of the rocket name.
Farsi speakers perhaps can comment.

That's correct. The "e" means "of".

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #50 on: 02/05/2015 06:54 am »
Thanks Liss, jcm and wmac. So I presume this is a Safir-1B until we learn otherwise.
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #51 on: 02/05/2015 06:23 pm »
Regarding alleged failed launches involving the Safir SLV, the German space expert Norbert Brugge says that the failed rocket launch in September 2012 was probably a Kavoshgar sounding rocket because the launch vehicle in the satellite photos isn't big enough to accommodate the Safir SLV. Also, there isn't any other concrete evidence other than NOTAMs and satellite photos to prove that the alleged failed launches in 2012 and 2013 ever took place. I also doubt that a failed launch took place in March 2014. Would it be safe to conclude that the launch of the Tadbir satellite was also delayed for technical reasons b/c Fajr was successfully put in orbit after years of delays?

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #52 on: 02/05/2015 08:04 pm »
Kavoshgar 6 did fail on 08-Sep-2012 but this was the second in four Fateh-110 based launches (with monkey in capsule).
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #53 on: 02/05/2015 08:48 pm »
Should the serial number be read right to left?

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #54 on: 02/05/2015 09:35 pm »
Should the serial number be read right to left?
No, it shouldn't. Even if the number or date is given in Persian digits, it still reads left to right.
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #55 on: 02/06/2015 09:17 am »
Should the serial number be read right to left?
No, it shouldn't. Even if the number or date is given in Persian digits, it still reads left to right.
And the letters that form part of the serial number?

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #56 on: 02/08/2015 09:32 am »
Fajr satellite control system & monitoring room



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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #57 on: 02/08/2015 03:08 pm »
Umm, can anybody read the text below the left image? The first line can refer to the 36th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution of 1979, but what is the second line about with the number 22145 in it?
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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #58 on: 02/08/2015 10:59 pm »
Umm, can anybody read the text below the left image? The first line can refer to the 36th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution of 1979, but what is the second line about with the number 22145 in it?

It's a cellphone number that people can send an sms to, to gain more info about the Fajr project. The text translates to: "To enter the world of space, send number (a digit I can't read) to 22145."

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Re: Safir launch with Fajr satellite - February 2, 2015
« Reply #59 on: 02/08/2015 11:10 pm »
Thank you Hossein!
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