Current NSF Forum Feedback Thread 2

[Stan Black]

The adverts I see on this website are way to inappropriate. I do not need an arab or thai friend. How do I stop this distressing nonsense?

[Chris Bergin]

The adverts I see on this website are way to inappropriate. I do not need an arab or thai friend. How do I stop this distressing nonsense?

You should be able to close them with the X, but I would suggest you use adblocker in your browser as you're a L2 member and you shouldn't have to see any ads.

That one ad placement (the rest are set ads - and obviously not the ones you're talking about) is Adwords. It's supposed to be based on your location and your browser (per cookies and such every site leaves in your browser). A bit like how Amazon knows to display PC hardware ads if you've been recently shopping for PC stuff.

I have told Mark about some clearly pointless ads (and in your case, totally inappropriate ads) getting through per other people mentioning it (most will never see them I'm guessing or there would be a riot), but I would say Adwords' way of targetting the right ads is completely broken and I want adwords replaced with something else on the site, make no mistake about it - as it's literally like placing s--t on the page. Trust me, I'm angry about this as this started months (if not years) ago. It should be replaced with a better provider.

[Chris Bergin]

We're aware the forum is being a bit slow right now. Doesn't go down, but sometimes you have to wait a few seconds for the next page you click on to load. Mark is working on it.

[Chris Bergin]

Should be back to full speed again. A lot of you wouldn't have noticed it unless - like me - you run around the forum like a crazy man, but was worth noting. Please post on this thread if you notice it return.....making sure it's the forum and not you going under a tunnel or something!

[mlindner]

I figure I should finally make a topic about this. The search function on this forum that uses date ranges is broken. If you try to change it from the default post age range you get:

An Error Has Occurred!
Unable to access the search daemon

I remember this happening since at least a year ago, maybe longer.

[rocketguy101]

I must note that only linking to a twitter post would be acceptable, but in case the tweet or even the whole twitter account is removed, it retains little value. For reference, I'd love to see the tweet content also.

I know I am posting in an old thread...(I even got a big red warning box LOL)  but I was trying to find a place to vent...

When viewing this site from a machine that has Twitter blocked, there is little value in seeing posts with a url listed and maybe a little comment.  Especially in update threads, it is a little maddening to see a series of posts with nothing but urls!  Can we please get an attachment that will be permenant like mtakala24 suggests?  I paid a subscription to this site in order to see content.

If I wanted to follow on twitter, I would do so, but I will not jump into that cesspool.  It seems more and more people just post a link and I find that sad, and a little lazy.

[Chris Bergin]

I must note that only linking to a twitter post would be acceptable, but in case the tweet or even the whole twitter account is removed, it retains little value. For reference, I'd love to see the tweet content also.

I know I am posting in an old thread...(I even got a big red warning box LOL)  but I was trying to find a place to vent...

When viewing this site from a machine that has Twitter blocked, there is little value in seeing posts with a url listed and maybe a little comment.  Especially in update threads, it is a little maddening to see a series of posts with nothing but urls!  Can we please get an attachment that will be permenant like mtakala24 suggests?  I paid a subscription to this site in order to see content.

If I wanted to follow on twitter, I would do so, but I will not jump into that cesspool.  It seems more and more people just post a link and I find that sad, and a little lazy.

What I'd say not liking Twitter is a case of not joining Twitter. Blocking Twitter is something I've not heard about before and it wouldn't hold relevance here as the content of tweets on here would be the same as if linked - as previous - with the only change being the post now shows the tweet as tweeted, rather than having to click the link and go through into Twitter.

Also, it avoids the massive problem of old where a tweet would be copied and pasted into a post, and the images attached.

1) 99 out of 100 times, it's not our content and it is a breach of copyright to reupload external content that way.
2) Our server attachment folder is unbelievable massive (we're moving it to a new host soon and it's going to take days to create a copy and add that copy to the next host). This removes some of the strain.
3) Loss of context: With so much content being on Twitter such as official tweets, etc. Copying and pasting it can lead to mistakes, loss of context and even - as in some cases - inaccurate reproduction. The link avoids it being NSF hosted and points to the external, original source.

Looking at the past 2000 posts made on NSF's forum, less than 1 percent of posts are just a Twitter link.

Looking at the most recent launch thread, less than 1 percent of posts are just a Twitter link.

Most of the posts with Twitter links include additional info.

There are no twitter links in L2 by the nature of L2 avoiding public content.

It was something many people asked for and it was created in the best format available. Live update threads will continue to be screenshot and photo attachments, supplemented with the occasional tweet when required.

So it's not only something that the majority have a preference for, but it's actually required per the content that is hosted on here (such as when other photographers tweet photos and used to see their copyrighted photos added as attachments.

What we'll aim to do is add a more than just a Twitter link in a post and some intro text, or a URL if it includes such a thing in the tweet, as a middle ground.

[rocketguy101]

I must note that only linking to a twitter post would be acceptable, but in case the tweet or even the whole twitter account is removed, it retains little value. For reference, I'd love to see the tweet content also.

I know I am posting in an old thread...(I even got a big red warning box LOL)  but I was trying to find a place to vent...

When viewing this site from a machine that has Twitter blocked, there is little value in seeing posts with a url listed and maybe a little comment.  Especially in update threads, it is a little maddening to see a series of posts with nothing but urls!  Can we please get an attachment that will be permenant like mtakala24 suggests?  I paid a subscription to this site in order to see content.

If I wanted to follow on twitter, I would do so, but I will not jump into that cesspool.  It seems more and more people just post a link and I find that sad, and a little lazy.

What I'd say not liking Twitter is a case of not joining Twitter. Blocking Twitter is something I've not heard about before and it wouldn't hold relevance here as the content of tweets on here would be the same as if linked - as previous - with the only change being the post now shows the tweet as tweeted, rather than having to click the link and go through into Twitter.

[snip]

When I view NSF from my work computer, Twitter, Youtube, and many other site domains are blocked.  After the holidays, I could post a screen shot of what I am talking about.  The posts with Twitter feeds are blank with a url and if the poster makes a comment, that appears (for example "Looks sooty").  So it is frustrating to see post after post with no meaningful information.  Yes, when I get home and look at the same post, all the pretty Twitter pictures show up and things become clearer.  Some could say "don't look at NSF at work" ... but I gotta get my space fix!!!  I am sure others that have domains blocked are seeing the same thing...I just notice lately this is a growing trend, not just on NSF on many other news sites...IMHO it is lazy to just repost from Twitter.

[gongora]

IMHO it is lazy to just repost from Twitter.

A lot of information these days is disseminated through Twitter that is not easy to find elsewhere.  Quoting the text from the tweet underneath the link might be a good middle ground for now.  (The articles that really annoy me are when they embed a tweet in an article and then spend three paragraphs restating it without adding any information that wasn't in the tweet.)

[zubenelgenubi]

Re: ads in the "footer"
Something has changed for the better; no longer seeing ads for overseas dating services, etc.

Thanks to Mark and Chris, and whomever else is responsible!

[Chris Bergin]

Re: ads in the "footer"
Something has changed for the better; no longer seeing ads for overseas dating services, etc.

Thanks to Mark and Chris, and whomever else is responsible!

Great. Mark did some work on that to heavily filter to much tighter parameters. Glad it's working!

[clongton]

Hi Chris and Mark
It would be nice if you can add another button to the "Like" button - one that says "Don't Like".
For example if someone shares some unexpected or disturbing news, a major schedule slippage for example, there would be a way to say "I am not happy about this".
Chuck

[Chris Bergin]

Hi Chris and Mark
It would be nice if you can add another button to the "Like" button - one that says "Don't Like".
For example if someone shares some unexpected or disturbing news, a major schedule slippage for example, there would be a way to say "I am not happy about this".
Chuck

We tried that with the "Karma" system and it was pretty much a bad idea as you'd get X fans downvoting Y posts that never deserved to be downvoted and could be seen as not downvoting bad news, but downvoting the person passing it on.

So nope

[gongora]

Hi Chris and Mark
It would be nice if you can add another button to the "Like" button - one that says "Don't Like".
For example if someone shares some unexpected or disturbing news, a major schedule slippage for example, there would be a way to say "I am not happy about this".
Chuck

I use the "Like" button to thank people for posting useful news, regardless of whether the news is good or not.

[dglow]

It seems that when a thread is trimmed my current position in that thread (last read post) is pushed backwards, far into the territory of previously-read posts. Does anyone else experience this?

[gongora]

It seems that when a thread is trimmed my current position in that thread (last read post) is pushed backwards, far into the territory of previously-read posts. Does anyone else experience this?

Yes.  I think it has always worked that way.  (I assume it gets confused because your database entry for that thread is pointing to a post that doesn't exist anymore.)

[zubenelgenubi]

Another Twitter content issue:
The relevant text in the embedded tweet disappears if the tweet is subsequently deleted.

With no copy/paste of the tweet text into a posting, one can be left with posting void of content.

[Chris Bergin]

Another Twitter content issue:
The relevant text in the embedded tweet disappears if the tweet is subsequently deleted.

With no copy/paste of the tweet text into a posting, one can be left with posting void of content.

1) Actually, we tested that. It seems to record it in the way it is embedded so it isn't a worry for empty posts.

2) That worried us more than the natural impression it would vanish if the tweet was deleted as someone deleting their tweet would be for a good reason and a copy and paste of it must be highly annoying (at the minimum) for the person who deleted it.


Test on another account I have as a hobby.

https://twitter.com/YCFCStadium/status/1067097165410037763

Yep, it keeps a record, albeit a text record, after a tweet posted here is deleted on Twitter. See above. Pretty good as it avoids the issue of copyright on photos as it only keeps the text and the link to what is (once deleted) a dead tweet. Imagine if someone tweeted a photo that was copyrighted or whatever...and someone here had attached it. That person would have to contact the site and request removal (or even try and sue us as someone here took their photo and attached it to our servers).

So another thumbs up for this change.

[clongton]

It seems that when a thread is trimmed my current position in that thread (last read post) is pushed backwards, far into the territory of previously-read posts. Does anyone else experience this?

Yes.  I think it has always worked that way.  (I assume it gets confused because your database entry for that thread is pointing to a post that doesn't exist anymore.)

That is precisely why one should not reply to an off topic post, especially by using the "Quote" button. When that post gets trimmed, that will change your post count. Instead the best thing to do is to report the post to the Moderators and let them handle it. Don't go down the rabbit hole with the OT poster.

[mlindner]

I figure I should finally make a topic about this. The search function on this forum that uses date ranges is broken. If you try to change it from the default post age range you get:

An Error Has Occurred!
Unable to access the search daemon

I remember this happening since at least a year ago, maybe longer.

My topic was apparently deleted and the post moved here but got no responses. Is this going to be fixed?