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News about Novosti Kosmonavtiki site and forum
by
Phillip Clark
on 17 Jan, 2015 20:12
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Not sure if this is the right section for this story.
On Facebook Liudmila Levkina has posted an article which suggest that Novosti Kosmonavtiki is in danger of being closed down shortly because of a lack of finance. Its loss would be a serious disaster for followers of the Russian space programme, past, present and future. The story seems to originate with Alexander Illin:
https://www.facebook.com/SpaceLin?pnref=story
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#1
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Chris Bergin
on 17 Jan, 2015 20:22
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That would be very sad if true.
If they have a fund raiser or some sort of drive, let me know. NSF will absolutely support it via publicity and such.
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#2
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Phillip Clark
on 17 Jan, 2015 20:30
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From the Facebook comments they are looking for sponsorship to keep the publication alive but things don't look good. The piece is talking about the January 2015 issue being the last one.
Since Igor Lissov from NK posts on here maybe he will keep us updated?
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#3
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Nicolas PILLET
on 17 Jan, 2015 20:49
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End of NK would be a terrible thing for all people interested in Russian Space.
I send all my best wishes to NK members (Igor M, Igor A, Igor L, Andrey and other).
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#4
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Satori
on 18 Jan, 2015 11:27
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Indeed, this is not a good news.
I have no idea about the amount needed to keep NK from closing down. If they cannot find a sponsorship to keep the publication alive, maybe they can try a crowdfunding campaign to help NK.
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#5
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B. Hendrickx
on 18 Jan, 2015 20:07
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The only "official" sign of trouble came late last year, when they put an announcement on their website that "because of the grave financial situation" they can no longer pay fees to people contributing articles to the magazine.
They also went through some tough times in the 1990s, so let's hope they can weather this storm as well. No space magazine in the world comes even close to providing the kind of coverage that NK does, so this would be a tremendous loss.
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#6
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jcm
on 19 Jan, 2015 04:43
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Very sorry to hear this. I just sent in my annual subscription but would willingly pay more to help keep it afloat.
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#7
by
Prober
on 19 Jan, 2015 10:20
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Not sure if this is the right section for this story.
On Facebook Liudmila Levkina has posted an article which suggest that Novosti Kosmonavtiki is in danger of being closed down shortly because of a lack of finance. Its loss would be a serious disaster for followers of the Russian space programme, past, present and future. The story seems to originate with Alexander Illin: https://www.facebook.com/SpaceLin?pnref=story
now this is the perfect Kickstarter type program (they are Amazon type folks btw). Kickstarter has the wide world reach, but their people skills are very bad. If you enjoy being treaded like a number, that's your choice. However
http://indiegogo.com is a very person oriented company. Hope it helps
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#8
by
Lanista
on 20 Jan, 2015 05:13
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I have no idea about the amount needed to keep NK from closing down.
About 31k$ per month.
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#9
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mtakala24
on 20 Jan, 2015 09:01
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Hopefully, if the worst happens, the forum stays online. They have a very valuable community even without the magazine.
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#10
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woods170
on 20 Jan, 2015 14:06
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I have no idea about the amount needed to keep NK from closing down.
About 31k$ per month.
Yikes. That kinda number will even scare Chris.
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#11
by
Prober
on 20 Jan, 2015 23:03
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How much to keep the Forums up?
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#12
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Liss
on 23 Jan, 2015 18:30
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Thank you for best wishes. Hope we'll be OK.
I would not speak on sums but you may try to make your own estimate -- salaries for 12 persons, rent of office & utilities, cost of print and distribution, royalties for images not in public domain, state taxes and payments. With no state funding or grant support -- and subscription does not cover the expenses in full.
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#13
by
Prober
on 27 Jan, 2015 03:08
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That would be very sad if true.
If they have a fund raiser or some sort of drive, let me know. NSF will absolutely support it via publicity and such.
This fine site might use a few extra dollars
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/book_future.htmlThe donation page pops up on every information page.
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#14
by
Lars-J
on 27 Jan, 2015 05:29
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That would be very sad if true.
If they have a fund raiser or some sort of drive, let me know. NSF will absolutely support it via publicity and such.
This fine site might use a few extra dollars http://www.russianspaceweb.com/book_future.html
The donation page pops up on every information page.
Yes, but that is a different site, and off topic for this discussion.
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#15
by
dcfowler1
on 02 Feb, 2015 01:18
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404 Not Found message at the NK website tonight.
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#16
by
Lars-J
on 02 Feb, 2015 03:14
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404 Not Found message at the NK website tonight.
The forums are still up, though.
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#17
by
the_other_Doug
on 02 Feb, 2015 03:16
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The main page just came up for me, so rumors of its death seem somewhat premature...
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#18
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B. Hendrickx
on 13 Feb, 2015 09:18
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http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum14/topic14367/?PAGEN_1=2According to this thread on the NK forum they have moved office and the February 2015 issue will be available soon. It would appear they have found some kind of financial relief ("not from a sponsor, but from a benefactor"). There's no sign in the thread that they're totally out of the woods now, but this looks like good news. At least rumours of the January 2015 issue being the last one have proved to be incorrect. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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#19
by
Lanista
on 11 Mar, 2015 08:37
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#20
by
Satori
on 19 May, 2015 23:07
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Does anyone else is having troubles accessing the NK online pages?
Its giving me an 404 Not Found at this time.
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#21
by
aga
on 20 May, 2015 05:09
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#22
by
douglas100
on 20 May, 2015 08:13
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It seems to be back up again.
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#23
by
patchfree
on 21 May, 2015 20:36
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I also experienced difficulties accessing NK website these days...
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#24
by
anik
on 10 Jul, 2015 10:19
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Maybe this information will be interesting for someone.
Novosti Kosmonavtiki now at PlayMarket and AppStorehttp://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/28653/Now you can buy the online copy of Novosti Kosmonavtiki magazine and read it on your smartphone or another gadget. We've entered PlayMarket and AppStore via the Interregional Subscription Agency and their VipishiSmart application. To access the magazine you should install this application on your gadget and select Novosti Kosmonavtiki from the list. Single issues and one year subscription is available.
PlayMarketAppStore
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#25
by
baldusi
on 13 Jul, 2015 17:10
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Maybe this information will be interesting for someone.
Novosti Kosmonavtiki now at PlayMarket and AppStore
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/28653/
Now you can buy the online copy of Novosti Kosmonavtiki magazine and read it on your smartphone or another gadget. We've entered PlayMarket and AppStore via the Interregional Subscription Agency and their VipishiSmart application. To access the magazine you should install this application on your gadget and select Novosti Kosmonavtiki from the list. Single issues and one year subscription is available.
PlayMarket
AppStore
Only Russian?
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#26
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schaban
on 04 Jan, 2016 19:48
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was anyone able to open NK site recently? seems down at the moment...
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#27
by
fregate
on 04 Jan, 2016 22:18
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was anyone able to open NK site recently? seems down at the moment...
Yes site is off-line
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#28
by
Olaf
on 05 Jan, 2016 18:32
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was anyone able to open NK site recently? seems down at the moment...
Yes site is off-line
It´s working again.
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#29
by
theonlyspace
on 08 Jan, 2016 09:07
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#30
by
tonyq
on 11 Jan, 2016 13:47
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was anyone able to open NK site recently? seems down at the moment...
Yes site is off-line
It´s working again.
It seems to have disappeared again, over the last few days. A great shame
I think we are all aware that NK have been faced with significant financial challenges for some time. I wonder if any of our Russian members have any recent updates?
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#31
by
okan170
on 11 Jan, 2016 15:09
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It seems to have disappeared again, over the last few days. A great shame
I think we are all aware that NK have been faced with significant financial challenges for some time. I wonder if any of our Russian members have any recent updates?
I sometimes read the forums there (with machine translation), and last I read, it sounded like they had been battling with their server software.
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#32
by
schaban
on 11 Jan, 2016 21:58
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They are updating it yes
However last editorial was very desperate
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#33
by
okan170
on 13 Jan, 2016 05:22
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And they're back!
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#34
by
B. Hendrickx
on 13 Jan, 2016 19:21
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There is a pretty desperate editorial on the NK forum by editor-in-chief Igor Marinin that appears to be intended for publication in the first issue of this year.
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum14/topic3620/?PAGEN_1=75Unfortunately, the magazine appears to be on the verge of bankruptcy.
Marinin first apologizes for the fact that the new issue is thinner than usual and printed on low-quality paper and goes on to say : "Because of the international sanctions against Russia, falling oil prices and a drop in gas sales, which have caused a general decline in production in the country, and also because reforms in the space industry are taking much longer than they should, the magazine has stopped receiving any financial support not only from the magazine's owners, but also from the industry's enterprises. Since the budget for the Federal Space Program 2016-2025 has been cut almost in half, the enterprises are forced to economize on everything, and can no longer support the magazine by buying copies, ordering articles and placing advertisements in the magazine."
To make matters worse, TsENKI (Russia's Center for Ground-Based Space Infrastructure) is refusing to pay back NK 1,450,000 rubles in debt and a bank where NK has a 3,500,000 ruble deposit "has lost its license". Despite measures to cut back costs, the magazine's staff writers haven't received any wages since September. Subscriber fees cover no more than 15 % of the production costs and therefore won't save the day.
Marinin says they've been pleading with Roskosmos for financial support for more than a year now, but that all they get back are promises. In a last-ditch effort to rescue the magazine, they recently sent letters to Dmitriy Rogozin (the deputy prime minister in charge of the defense industry), MPs of the State Duma, cosmonauts, managers of all space enterprises and to the president of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs. However, Rogozin did nothing more than forward the letter to Roscosmos chief Igor Komarov. There was no response from Duma deputies, "who have gone on vacation". Managers of space enterprises either did not respond or said they have no money for PR. Many veteran cosmonauts called to offer advice and one (who wished to remain anonymous) was even prepared to donate 1 million rubles from his own savings, "but even one million won't save NK", Maranin says. They were hopeful that there would be a more positive response from the Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, "but even among Russian millionaires there is not a single patriot willing to save the country's only and the world's best non-commercial space news journal, which will celebrate its 25th anniversary in August 2016", Marinin writes, desperately adding : "Where are you, Russian patriots?"
Marinin ends the editorial by saying : "I'm asking you to send your proposals and advice to save the journal (possibly by turning it into an electronic magazine) directly to the State Corporation Roskosmos or to the editor-in-chief at
[email protected]".
Well, let's hope that some benefactor shows up to rescue NK and the magazine lives to see its 25th anniversary, albeit just in electronic form. I can only show deep respect for NK's staff continuing to put out a top-notch magazine in the past months despite all the financial hardships and sincerely hope they can find some way out of this situation. I've personally subscribed since 1993 and can hardly imagine life without my monthly dose of NK. Hang on there, guys...
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#35
by
jcm
on 13 Jan, 2016 23:23
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5 million rubles is only US$60K - pocket change for any US or Euro based aerospace company that wants advertising in Russia... hope someone steps up. I sent in my $170 for next year even though I know it may disappear.
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#36
by
Kansan52
on 13 Jan, 2016 23:30
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Kickstarter?
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#37
by
Star One
on 14 Jan, 2016 06:55
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5 million rubles is only US$60K - pocket change for any US or Euro based aerospace company that wants advertising in Russia... hope someone steps up. I sent in my $170 for next year even though I know it may disappear.
ESA maybe with their links to the Russian space industry?
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#38
by
Rebel44
on 15 Jan, 2016 23:20
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If they have such high print expenses, why didnt they switch to electronic form ages ago?
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#39
by
B. Hendrickx
on 27 Jun, 2017 07:15
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I've just received the 5/2017 issue of Novosti kosmonavtiki and it's good to see that Roskosmos has now finally taken the magazine under its wing (which apparently has been a long time coming). The editorial board is now headed by Roskosmos chief Igor Komarov, who says in a foreword to the latest issue that they've managed to solve several "financial and organizational problems". The magazine is now back to its original format and size. Hopefully they're out of the woods now. I understand the NK office is now located on the premises of TsNIIMash in Korolyov outside Moscow.
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#40
by
gospacex
on 27 Jun, 2017 11:15
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It seems to have disappeared again, over the last few days. A great shame
I think we are all aware that NK have been faced with significant financial challenges for some time. I wonder if any of our Russian members have any recent updates?
I sometimes read the forums there (with machine translation), and last I read, it sounded like they had been battling with their server software.
Better than when they had very active threads on the best designs of ICBMs and cruise missiles to nuke "fscking Americans".
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#41
by
Liss
on 27 Jun, 2017 11:59
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I sometimes read the forums there (with machine translation), and last I read, it sounded like they had been battling with their server software.
Better than when they had very active threads on the best designs of ICBMs and cruise missiles to nuke "fscking Americans".
Should I see this a kind of humor?
I hope everybody understands the difference between the magazine and the community around it which is highly diversified. Some of them hate U.S. policy, others like it, but almost all in the community highly respect the U.S. space program.
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#42
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 27 Jun, 2017 12:16
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I hope everybody understands the difference between the magazine and the community around it which is highly diversified. Some of them hate U.S. policy, others like it, but almost all in the community highly respect the U.S. space program.
I think we could have exactly the same comment about NSF forum (highly "diversified") and NSF articles (always respectful of everybody, and only dealing with facts).
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#43
by
Phillip Clark
on 27 Jun, 2017 12:19
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Getting back on topic, it is excellent news that Novosti Kosmonavtiki is now "safe".
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#44
by
Liss
on 27 Jun, 2017 12:27
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Getting back on topic, it is excellent news that Novosti Kosmonavtiki is now "safe".
I hope so.
A lot of bureaucracy and delays but it is inevitable in a large state-owned structure.
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#45
by
gospacex
on 27 Jun, 2017 12:49
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I hope everybody understands the difference between the magazine and the community around it which is highly diversified. Some of them hate U.S. policy, others like it, but almost all in the community highly respect the U.S. space program.
I think we could have exactly the same comment about NSF forum (highly "diversified")
And yet, highly "diversified" NSF forum never had any threads discussing ways to more efficiently nuke Russia. I'm sure if someone would start it, moderators would promptly delete it.
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#46
by
Phillip Clark
on 27 Jun, 2017 12:50
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Getting back on topic, it is excellent news that Novosti Kosmonavtiki is now "safe".
I hope so.
A lot of bureaucracy and delays but it is inevitable in a large state-owned structure.
I hope that part of the "deal" is that you now have free access to use the archives of JSC Progress, especially for the Zenit, Yantar and Orlets satellites!!!
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#47
by
gospacex
on 27 Jun, 2017 12:57
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I sometimes read the forums there (with machine translation), and last I read, it sounded like they had been battling with their server software.
Better than when they had very active threads on the best designs of ICBMs and cruise missiles to nuke "fscking Americans".
Should I see this a kind of humor?
I hope everybody understands the difference between the magazine and the community around it which is highly diversified.
I'm not joking here one iota. Your forum, unlike this one, did discuss development and use of nuclear weapons against US, at length, and moderators were not stopping it. Threads such as these:
Рациональное применение МБР и БРПЛ
Тяжелая жидкостная МБР уничтожающая города потенциального д
«СИНЕВА» Р-29РМУ2
I don't see why I shouldn't let other members of NSF know this, so that they can be more informed while deciding about, say, donations.
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#48
by
Liss
on 27 Jun, 2017 13:32
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I'm not joking here one iota. Your forum, unlike this one, did discuss development and use of nuclear weapons against US, at length, and moderators were not stopping it. Threads such as these:
Рациональное применение МБР и БРПЛ
Тяжелая жидкостная МБР уничтожающая города потенциального д
«СИНЕВА» Р-29РМУ2
I don't see why I shouldn't let other members of NSF know this, so that they can be more informed while deciding about, say, donations.
Well, thank you for kind support.
These are not the topics I'm proud of but I can understand people who post there.
I would prefer joint space expansion without nuclear weapons but the world we live in differs from ideal.
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#49
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 27 Jun, 2017 14:38
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but the world we live in differs from ideal.
Since my favorite space journal is now safe, I consider this world as being ideal !
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#50
by
B. Hendrickx
on 13 Mar, 2018 07:19
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Very sad to see that censorship seems to have hit the latest issue of "Novosti kosmonavtiki". The February 2018 issue, which covers events in December 2017, has unusually limited coverage of the two Russian launches that took place that month (Cosmos-2524 (a Lotos-S electronic intelligence satellite) and Angosat). The article about Cosmos-2524 is accompanied by a photo of a scale model of Lotos-S, but the article itself avoids any mention of the satellite or its purpose. For a long time NK articles limited speculation about the nature of Russian military satellites to quotes from Western analysts, but even that is now absent.
The article about the Angosat launch occupies just half a page and merely provides basic details about the launch itself without mentioning the purpose of the satellite or the serious problems that cropped up with it shortly after launch.
I can only presume that Roskosmos (which took over ownership of NK last year) has imposed new rules for the coverage of Russian launches. Hopefully that doesn't take us back all the way to the Soviet days...
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#51
by
Phillip Clark
on 13 Mar, 2018 07:27
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Bart - maybe you could edit an uncensored foreign edition?
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#52
by
B. Hendrickx
on 13 Mar, 2018 09:22
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Bart - maybe you could edit an uncensored foreign edition?
Only if I can hire you for all the number crunching :-).
Seriously, it must be frustrating for NK's staff writers not to be able to fully exploit their analytical and sleuthing skills when writing about Russian military satellites. Igor Lisov's NK articles about Chinese and American military satellites are top notch, more detailed than you will find anywhere else. For instance, the very same issue I was talking about has his in-depth analysis of the Chinese LKW-3 launch on 3 December (probably a military reconnaissance satellite). NK remains the only space magazine that has such in-depth coverage of current space events, but hopefully that trend will continue to extend to Russian missions as well, even if they fail or are military in nature. It's at least reassuring that the same issue also carries an article on the investigation into last November's Meteor launch failure...
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#53
by
Phillip Clark
on 13 Mar, 2018 09:37
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I had noticed that Igor had started to add a comment about his postings representing his personal views and being based upon public information: presumably we now know the reason why.
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#54
by
Liss
on 16 Mar, 2018 12:05
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Well, the February 2018 issue is not the one I'm proud of. The control became nasty and time-consuming. The question is if this will worsen or go easier in the nearest months as the parties involved are more skilled and less suspicious. My intention now is to wait and see.
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#55
by
B. Hendrickx
on 30 Apr, 2018 10:06
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As usual, the March issue of Novosti Kosmonavtiki has an article with statistics on launches performed in the preceding year. Remarkably, five satellites are missing in the accompanying list of launches in 2017 (which also includes satellites deployed from orbiting platforms such as the small satellites regularly deployed from ISS) :
- Cosmos-2518 (EKS/Tundra)
- Cosmos-2519 (carrying subsatellites Cosmos-2521 and Cosmos-2523)
- Cosmos-2522 (Glonass)
- Cosmos-2523 (suspected inspector satellite deployed from Cosmos-2521)
- Cosmos-2524 (Liana)
The only Russian military satellites included in the list are Blagovest (without its official name Cosmos-2520) and Cosmos-2521, with the additional information that it is an inspector satellite deployed from Cosmos-2519 on 23 August (the international designator given for Cosmos-2521 is wrong though : 2017-034D instead of 2017-037D). A footnote accompanying the table says that Cosmos-2519 and 2521 "have only been included in the list because they have been registered in the list of the US Strategic Command. There was no official announcement on the release of Cosmos-2523". This is strange, because, first of all, Cosmos-2519 is
not in the list and, second, the Russians
did make an official announcement on the release of Cosmos-2523 from Cosmos-2521 at the time (if TASS quoting the Ministry of Defense can be considered an official announcement). It did take much longer for them to register the deployment of the satellite with the UN.
There are blank lines in the table where the missing Russian satellites should be, strongly indicating they were erased at a late stage in the editing process. However, the censors do not seem to have done a thorough job, because they oversaw Blagovest and Cosmos-2521 and the statistics given in the article itself do include the military launches : a total of 18 (successful) launches from Russian territory and a total of 20 Russian satellites placed into orbit in 2017.
Is this just plain oversight or has the new policy of censorship reached absurd levels (such as denying that Russian military launches actually took place)? I'm inclined to think it is the latter.
More signs that something is going on :
- discussions on Russian military satellites on the NK forum (which used to be quite lively) have almost completely died down
- responding to a complaint that many Russian NK subscribers have not yet received the October 2017 issue, Igor Lisov replied on the NK forum in March that they are still waiting for official permission to distribute that issue. Coincidentally or not, that issue carried an article by Igor on the Russian inspector satellites.
I'm wondering if all this has to do with new legislation that was passed last year regarding the protection of state secrets. For instance, last July amendments were approved to a law on state secrets (which I understand went into effect on 1 January 2018):
http://en.kremlin.ru/acts/news/55143A cursory look at these amendments does not show anything that would affect publications on military satellites, but I may have overseen something or perhaps there is other new legislation that does place restrictions on such publications. Maybe our Russian colleagues can fill us in on this.
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#56
by
B. Hendrickx
on 30 Apr, 2018 10:46
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A footnote accompanying the table says that Cosmos-2519 and 2521 "have only been included in the list because they have been registered in the list of the US Strategic Command. There was no official announcement on the release of Cosmos-2523". This is strange, because, first of all, Cosmos-2519 is not in the list and, second, the Russians did make an official announcement on the release of Cosmos-2523 from Cosmos-2521 at the time (if TASS quoting the Ministry of Defense can be considered an official announcement). It did take much longer for them to register the deployment of the satellite with the UN.
Correction to my earlier post : the footnote refers only to Cosmos-2521 and 2523, not Cosmos-2519.
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#57
by
B. Hendrickx
on 17 Aug, 2018 21:08
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“Novosti kosmonavtiki” editor-in-chief Igor Marinin has announced that the magazine will cease to exist at the end of this year and will be replaced by a new Roscosmos magazine called “Russkiy kosmos” (Russian Space), which he describes as a popular journal aimed at a wider audience and covering a wider range of topics (not to be confused with “Rossiyskiy kosmos”, a magazine that Roscosmos published until some time ago). NK’s staff will be transferred to the new magazine.
This is definitely bad news for the real space buffs looking for the type of in-depth coverage that NK has provided since it was established in 1991. Clearly, the new Roscosmos management under Dmitriy Rogozin has decided that there is no need for that type of journal under the auspices of the Russian space agency. This is a big loss.
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#58
by
russianhalo117
on 17 Aug, 2018 21:15
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“Novosti kosmonavtiki” editor-in-chief Igor Marinin has announced that the magazine will cease to exist at the end of this year and will be replaced by a new Roscosmos magazine called “Russkiy kosmos” (Russian Space), which he describes as a popular journal aimed at a wider audience and covering a wider range of topics (not to be confused with “Rossiyskiy kosmos”, a magazine that Roscosmos published until some time ago). NK’s staff will be transferred to the new magazine.
This is definitely bad news for the real space buffs looking for the type of in-depth coverage that NK has provided since it was established in 1991. Clearly, the new Roscosmos management under Dmitriy Rogozin has decided that there is no need for that type of journal under the auspices of the Russian space agency. This is a big loss.
so will forum be renamed or cease to exist??
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#59
by
B. Hendrickx
on 17 Aug, 2018 22:07
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so will forum be renamed or cease to exist??
I have no idea.
Onze correction to my earlier post : the magazine “Rossiyskiy kosmos” (which also translates as “Russian Space”) still exists and is not a Roscosmos magazine. It is published by the Association of Space Explorers.
www.r-kosmos.ru/102/
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#60
by
ratman
on 17 Aug, 2018 22:49
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This may be not entirely bad for the community - NK has turned into politicized echo chamber long time ago.
There are plenty of people there who may benefit from being forced into the bigger world.
(Just an uninformed opinion)...
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#61
by
Blackstar
on 18 Aug, 2018 15:13
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This may be not entirely bad for the community - NK has turned into politicized echo chamber long time ago.
There are plenty of people there who may benefit from being forced into the bigger world.
(Just an uninformed opinion)...
Considering the political restrictions in Russia, nobody there is going to express any opinion that will get them in trouble with the leadership, or any information that is not allowed by the leadership.
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#62
by
nsn
on 18 Aug, 2018 17:36
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Considering the political restrictions in Russia, nobody there is going to express any opinion that will get them in trouble with the leadership, or any information that is not allowed by the leadership.
By "nobody" you probably mean none of the state officials and the employees of the state-owned companies, because others do this on a daily basis.
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#63
by
jcm
on 19 Aug, 2018 06:27
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This is all very sad news about NK.
On the plus side, even if it comes to an end now, its achievement in documenting spaceflight over the past
quarter century is remarkable. Kudos to all who contributed to it. Perhaps it's best that it end rather than
become a parody of its former self (per Bart's notes on the censorship).
Bart, I also did not receive the Oct 2017 issue, so it's not just Russian subscribers. Perhaps at some point
you can copy and scan it for posterity?
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#64
by
Blackstar
on 19 Aug, 2018 20:17
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Considering the political restrictions in Russia, nobody there is going to express any opinion that will get them in trouble with the leadership, or any information that is not allowed by the leadership.
By "nobody" you probably mean none of the state officials and the employees of the state-owned companies, because others do this on a daily basis.
Where can we find the discussions of Russian military space programs?
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#65
by
schaban
on 20 Aug, 2018 01:19
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if same people will continue to contribute, it won't be as bad as some fear it could be.
What I'm afraid of is that regular contributors will disappear. or will just re-post official news...
So that happen for too many interesting Russian forums...
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#66
by
ratman
on 20 Aug, 2018 01:23
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Where can we find the discussions of Russian military space programs?
Given the current trends, I doubt that many of those discussions will be permitted on Russian web any longer - with or without NK...
I'll put it this way: people there are being put in jail for likes and reposts on social matters. Leaking any non-official information on military space is just asking for trouble.
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#67
by
AntiAnti
on 20 Aug, 2018 17:44
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Where can we find the discussions of Russian military space programs?
Given the current trends, I doubt that many of those discussions will be permitted on Russian web any longer - with or without NK...
I'll put it this way: people there are being put in jail for likes and reposts on social matters. Leaking any non-official information on military space is just asking for trouble.
It's total misunderstanding. Sorry for politics, but prosecution for reposts isn't intentional. It isn't an evil will of Kremlin, it's a mistake and evidence that Kermlin can't control its own police. Still, it's not dangerous to criticize authorities. Situation with freedom degenerates, but the only major change I see is that people working in space and military industiry now afraid to discuss even non-classified information, even if they have no access to state secrets.
They close NK not because of politics. All problems of the NK have as name, and this name is Rogozin. He believes that the magazine is too technical and not popular enough. And yes, he's an idiot.
Also, Russian space industry is dying, so why would an indstry magazine survive?
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#68
by
fregate
on 02 Sep, 2018 14:12
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so will forum be renamed or cease to exist??
I have no idea.
Onze correction to my earlier post : the magazine “Rossiyskiy kosmos” (which also translates as “Russian Space”) still exists and is not a Roscosmos magazine. It is published by the Association of Space Explorers.
www.r-kosmos.ru/102/
Bart, IMHO Novosti Kosmonavtiki and Rossiyskiy Kosmos would be mergred into ROSKOSMOS official RUSSKIY KOSMOS (THE RUSSIAN SPACE). Lost in translation Rossiyski and Russkiy both are RUSSIAN in English.
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#69
by
B. Hendrickx
on 03 Sep, 2018 21:40
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so will forum be renamed or cease to exist??
I have no idea.
Onze correction to my earlier post : the magazine “Rossiyskiy kosmos” (which also translates as “Russian Space”) still exists and is not a Roscosmos magazine. It is published by the Association of Space Explorers.
www.r-kosmos.ru/102/
Bart, IMHO Novosti Kosmonavtiki and Rossiyskiy Kosmos would be mergred into ROSKOSMOS official RUSSKIY KOSMOS (THE RUSSIAN SPACE). Lost in translation Rossiyski and Russkiy both are RUSSIAN in English.
A correction to my earlier post : "Rossiyskiy kosmos" is not published by the Association of Space Explorers (which is the international organization of astronauts and cosmonauts), but by the International Association of Space Activities Participants (IASP, Russian acronym MAKD), which despite being called "international" is actually an organization of Russian space enterprises. It only has a Russian website:
https://www.makd.ruSome background is given here:
http://www.nexeya.com/news/052018/russia.htmIASP is an association under Russian law created in 2005 and which brings together 45 public and private companies working in the space sector, including the companies RKK Energia (Soyuz and Progress vessels), Khrunichev (Proton, Rockot and Angara launchers), Progress ( Soyuz launcher) or even Lavochkin (Fregat floor, Exomars)....
Its role is to facilitate the business of its members in the space sector by allowing them to publicize their products in Russia and abroad at exhibitions organized by the association, as well as to offer a space of information, networking and coordination, all in good agreement with the Russian Space Agency ROSCOSMOS.
Editor-in-chief of the magazine is former cosmonaut Viktor Savinykh.
I'm not quite sure what to expect of NK's successor "Russkiy kosmos". The name suggests it will focus more heavily or perhaps even exclusively on the Russian space program. That in itself may not be a bad thing, because the abundance of international space news often leaves little room for proper coverage of Russia's own space program in NK. What undoubtedly will remain absent though is critical analysis of the Russian program and coverage of Russian military space projects.
By the way, here's the website of another little known Russian space magazine, a quarterly called "Vozduzhno-kosmicheskaya sfera":
https://www.ashurbeyli.ru/numbers/publication/24Issues are available for free, but in a not very convenient format.
This seems to be the successor the journal "Vozdushno-kosmicheskaya oborona" (VKO) (Aerospace Defense), but with a much heavier emphasis on space. Unfortunately, back issues of the VKO journal have been taken offline.
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#70
by
schaban
on 05 Sep, 2018 02:47
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can't connect to NK today. was it moved or just regular interruption? or was it temporarily shut because of the drill hole?
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#71
by
B. Hendrickx
on 23 Nov, 2018 13:14
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The pilot issue of the new magazine "Russkiy kosmos" (which replaces both "Novosti kosmonavtiki" and "Rossiyskiy kosmos") is now available for download on the Roskosmos website.
https://www.roscosmos.ru/25737/This is a special issue largely devoted to the 20th anniversary of ISS. As the name already suggested, the magazine focuses mainly on the Russian space program, with coverage of non-Russian space projects now reduced to two pages of short news items and a four-page story on the Parker Solar Probe. Good to see there's also room for space history with a four-page article on the recovery of Zond-5. This probably won't fully sastisfy readers who are used to the in-depth coverage of NK, but apparently the target audience for that kind of magazine was considered too small to warrant its continued existence under the auspices of Roskosmos.
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#72
by
SMS
on 29 Nov, 2018 16:20
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There is a Platov name as cosmonaut candidate in this number inside at page 70. Is it error or correct name of Platonov?
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#73
by
Alter Sachse
on 29 Nov, 2018 17:21
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#74
by
EnigmaSCADA
on 29 Nov, 2018 17:25
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Does anyone else find the NK site very unresponsive? Sometimes I'll click on a topic and it times out before loading. Happens about 30% of the time, doesn't matter if I'm on wifi or 4G, still happens.
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#75
by
Olaf
on 02 Dec, 2018 19:47
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There is a Platov name as cosmonaut candidate in this number inside at page 70. Is it error or correct name of Platonov?
According to
http://www.gctc.ru/main.php?id=128 the name is Platonov.
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#76
by
B. Hendrickx
on 02 Dec, 2018 22:43
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Does anyone else find the NK site very unresponsive? Sometimes I'll click on a topic and it times out before loading. Happens about 30% of the time, doesn't matter if I'm on wifi or 4G, still happens.
This has been going on for months (if not longer). Unfortunately, nobody at NK seems to be able to do something about it.
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#77
by
schaban
on 01 Feb, 2019 21:05
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Can't get to it for more then a week. Does anyone knows if it is dead already?
or perhaps, they changed address because publication was shut and rolled into Rysskij Kosmos (? not sure of new name)
Thank you in advance
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#78
by
smoliarm
on 02 Feb, 2019 23:25
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Can't get to it for more then a week. Does anyone knows if it is dead already?
or perhaps, they changed address because publication was shut and rolled into Rysskij Kosmos (? not sure of new name)
Thank you in advance
It is dead for now, but there is still hope:
https://buchwurm.livejournal.com/411700.html?thread=3435060#t3435060- Igor Lisov ("buchwurm"), one of editors of NK, says there that hopefully the site will be back.
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#79
by
schaban
on 03 Feb, 2019 00:21
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thank you. wasn't aware Liss had lifejournal account.
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#80
by
zandr
on 03 Feb, 2019 18:59
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#81
by
Olaf
on 04 Feb, 2019 08:02
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It is back.
