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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #40 on: 01/22/2015 01:57 am »
Way back in 2007-2008. Obama has had many chances to do so and has not, so it's pretty lame for you to bring that up.

Well, it's still the case that the administration sees spaceflight as an adjunct to STEM education. It's not about actually doing anything in space, it's about inspiring the kiddies.

I disagree; this administration wanted to move NASA more toward technology development. Congress disagreed and they didn't see it as worthwhile to fight for the change they wanted.
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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #41 on: 01/22/2015 03:26 am »
I disagree; this administration wanted to move NASA more toward technology development. Congress disagreed and they didn't see it as worthwhile to fight for the change they wanted.

That's true, I totally forgot about the attempt to turn NASA into a "clean energy" development center.

Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #42 on: 01/22/2015 10:55 am »
I disagree; this administration wanted to move NASA more toward technology development. Congress disagreed and they didn't see it as worthwhile to fight for the change they wanted.

That's true, I totally forgot about the attempt to turn NASA into a "clean energy" development center.

That's also false; they wanted NASA to concentrate on the next generation of technologies needed for interplanetary flight rather than a huge rocket.
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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #43 on: 01/22/2015 11:20 am »
That's also false; they wanted NASA to concentrate on the next generation of technologies needed for interplanetary flight rather than a huge rocket.

Who did? Bobby Braun quit because all the pressure was to direct NASA technology development away from spaceflight.

Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #44 on: 01/22/2015 01:55 pm »
That's also false; they wanted NASA to concentrate on the next generation of technologies needed for interplanetary flight rather than a huge rocket.

Who did? Bobby Braun quit because all the pressure was to direct NASA technology development away from spaceflight.

That's the first time that I have heard that. Do you have a source for that?

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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #45 on: 01/22/2015 02:00 pm »

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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #46 on: 01/22/2015 02:48 pm »
That's also false; they wanted NASA to concentrate on the next generation of technologies needed for interplanetary flight rather than a huge rocket.

Who did? Bobby Braun quit because all the pressure was to direct NASA technology development away from spaceflight.

That's the first time that I have heard that. Do you have a source for that?

It was because of a lack of funding, but QG's point maybe the reason for the lack of funding.

http://nasawatch.com/archives/2011/09/nasa-cto-bobby.html

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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #47 on: 01/22/2015 03:54 pm »
I disagree; this administration wanted to move NASA more toward technology development. Congress disagreed and they didn't see it as worthwhile to fight for the change they wanted.

That's true, I totally forgot about the attempt to turn NASA into a "clean energy" development center.

That's also false; they wanted NASA to concentrate on the next generation of technologies needed for interplanetary flight rather than a huge rocket.

One of the major projects funded by President Obama under the Space Technology Program was an orbital flight demonstration of a cryogenic propellant depot which is vital for practical BEO flight. It was defunded and downgraded to some ground tests because Congress transferred the money to SLS.

Also, Mr. Obama did not propose defunding NASA to fund education. He proposed a five year delay in the Constellation program. There was no proposal to delay commercial crew or technology development.
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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #49 on: 01/23/2015 12:05 am »
.. and Mike Gazarik, the current Chief Technology Officer at NASA, just left too.

http://www.ballaerospace.com/page.jsp?page=30&id=619

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Re: Interview with Senator Cruz on Space Exploration
« Reply #50 on: 01/23/2015 01:25 am »
Here is another article on Mars by the Hill:
http://thehill.com/policy/230365-mission-to-mars-moving-at-the-speed-of-congress
Well now it's time to walk the talk and fully fund the technology we need to get to Mars, Habs landers etc... I'll be watching the GOP...
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