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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #500 on: 07/28/2018 03:26 PM »
Latest image dated July 16:

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#DEIMOS2 captured new developments at Cape Canaveral's Landing Zone 1, where @SpaceX is expanding its facilities. #ChangeDetection #SpaceX #DragonSpacecraft

https://twitter.com/deimosimaging/status/1022745963734228992
Looks like they are getting ready to build a third landing pad.  Any guesses on which FH mission that would be for?
If youíre talking about the area that appears to have been cleared to the left of the original landing pad, that is a new building going in, not a new landing pad. If memory serves itís a dragon processing facility, but itís been many months since the site plan was updated so i could be remembering itís purpose incorrectly.

This is correct from what I've read.  It's a Dragon facility, not a pad.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #501 on: 07/28/2018 06:54 PM »
Latest image dated July 16:

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#DEIMOS2 captured new developments at Cape Canaveral's Landing Zone 1, where @SpaceX is expanding its facilities. #ChangeDetection #SpaceX #DragonSpacecraft

https://twitter.com/deimosimaging/status/1022745963734228992
Looks like they are getting ready to build a third landing pad.  Any guesses on which FH mission that would be for?
If youíre talking about the area that appears to have been cleared to the left of the original landing pad, that is a new building going in, not a new landing pad. If memory serves itís a dragon processing facility, but itís been many months since the site plan was updated so i could be remembering itís purpose incorrectly.

This is correct from what I've read.  It's a Dragon facility, not a pad.

See plans from earlier in this thread:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36513.msg1716623#msg1716623

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #502 on: 07/28/2018 07:59 PM »
In any case, AFAIK, a Falcon Heavy with total RTLS can hardly carry more to orbit than a Falcon 9 with RTLS, so why would they ever need three landing pads?  Not simply because the original concept video did.
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #503 on: 07/28/2018 08:46 PM »
In any case, AFAIK, a Falcon Heavy with total RTLS can hardly carry more to orbit than a Falcon 9 with RTLS, so why would they ever need three landing pads?  Not simply because the original concept video did.

FH with 3x RTLS can probably put about as much payload to GTO as F9 fully expended.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #504 on: 07/28/2018 08:50 PM »
In any case, AFAIK, a Falcon Heavy with total RTLS can hardly carry more to orbit than a Falcon 9 with RTLS, so why would they ever need three landing pads?
Unless the second stage was significantly stretched.
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(about stretching stage 2) under consideration. Weíve already stretched the upper stage once. Easiest part of the rocket to change. Fairing 2, flying soon, also has a slightly larger diameter. Could make fairing much longer if need be & will if BFR takes longer than expected.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #505 on: 07/28/2018 10:01 PM »
I was looking at various places to find the environmental assessments for the SpaceX projects.

The SpaceX landing area environmental assessment can be found at
Patrick AFB:
https://www.patrick.af.mil/About-Us/Environmental/
Of course the pictures in the environmental assessment don't match the site plans that were posted earlier in the thread, but with SpaceX things usually change.

Various other SpaceX environment assessments can be found at
KSC:
https://environmental.ksc.nasa.gov/EnvironmentalPlanning/NEPA

FAA:
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/environmental/nepa_docs/
 > Look under "Experimental" and "Launch Operator" sections

Regulations.gov theoretically should theoretically have most of them, but maybe you need to know what words to search on for a particular document to actually find it.  You can find some of them by searching for Space Exploration Technologies:
https://www.regulations.gov/searchResults?rpp=25&so=DESC&sb=postedDate&po=0&s=%22space%2Bexploration%2Btechnologies%22
or sometimes just SpaceX:
https://www.regulations.gov/searchResults?rpp=25&so=DESC&sb=postedDate&po=0&s=spacex&fp=true&dct=FR%2BPR%2BN%2BO

If you've found other places with this sort of document please let us know.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #506 on: 07/29/2018 03:01 AM »



This is correct from what I've read.  It's a Dragon facility, not a pad.

See plans from earlier in this thread:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36513.msg1716623#msg1716623

Thanks for the reference.  I've attached the more legible drawing from the above.  So I was clearly wrong about a third pad --- but on the other hand, the sat images seem to clearly show that they've started building the static fire stand at LZ-1.


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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #507 on: 08/21/2018 09:30 AM »
https://twitter.com/flatoday_jdean/status/1026462841992347649?s=19

James Dean ✔ @flatoday_jdean
 KSC reviewing state proposals for new Launch Complex 48, Landing Zone 2: https://on.flatoday.com/2M4tNry
9:39 AM - Aug 6, 2018

As NSF previously reported, LC-48 would be for small launchers; Boeing's Phantom Express spaceplane (aka DARPA's XS-1), Electron, Firefly etc.

LZ-2 would be three (3!) landing pads between LC-39B and Playalinda Beach,

(map location image is my understanding of media reports)
« Last Edit: 08/21/2018 09:43 AM by docmordrid »
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #508 on: 11/21/2018 11:21 PM »
A few pictures I took of the move this morning.
Wait
From fourth photo, the booster attachment fixture is powered by solar panels, and commercial looking ones at that?
What a Tesla/Solar City solution!
Anyone else would have strung a 200' power cable to it.

edit: corrected the count
« Last Edit: 11/21/2018 11:22 PM by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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