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Online Lars-J

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #200 on: 12/10/2015 07:23 PM »
What are the environmental remediation steps and timeline in the case that a few tens or hundreds of gallons of kerosene and hydraulic fluid gets scattered about the sandy vegetation?
Minimal compared to what would needed during a launch failure.

What are the chances that SpaceX has some strategy of intentionally depleting any remaining high pressure N, He, and the TEA/B just before landing?

Not before landing, since all of it will be needed for the propulsive landing. (except maybe the remaining TEA/B, but *something* needs to start the engine for the landing burn)

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #201 on: 12/13/2015 10:41 PM »
I think the procedure will be to vent out the O2 before anyone approaches the landed stage, and they can do the same with N2 and He if necessary. They will probably need to offload any remaining RP1 before the stage is tilted horizontal, so they will need to bring in a truck or something to collect it. TEA/B is dangerous, but less so if there are no propellants on board.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #202 on: 12/15/2015 11:52 AM »
What are the chances that SpaceX has some strategy of intentionally depleting any remaining high pressure N, He, and the TEA/B just before landing?
Sounds good idea for TEA/B, just use up all the reserve when starting the engine for landing burn.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #203 on: 12/16/2015 01:57 AM »
Do you think landing pads will get names from the culture series? My suggestion is "Flexible demeanor" from Consider Phleblas.

I wouldn't think so.. The issue is that, unlike Star Wars, no-one outside the science fiction community has ever heard of the Culture series, so whilst they could get away with it for an ASDS or two as some kind of obscure insider joke, writing ""Flexible Demeanor" in large letters across a permanent landing pad would have the watching world thinking SpX has gone nuts.

EDIT: At least writing something like "No Naked Flames" might be seen for the joke it is.. :)

So Mos Eisley it is. Nice tie in if the first landing there happens to be shortly after the release of Episode 7.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #204 on: 12/18/2015 04:56 PM »
FAA's environmental assessment on SpaceX proposed vertical landings at LC-1:
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/environmental/nepa_docs/review/launch/media/20151201_faa_fonsi_for_f9_rtls_at_lc-1.pdf

"ACTIONS: Finding of No Significant Impact (FONSI)"


SpaceNews article about this:
http://spacenews.com/faa-moves-closer-to-approving-falcon-9-landings-at-cape-canaveral/


edit add spacenews article
« Last Edit: 12/18/2015 05:06 PM by Wonger »

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #205 on: 12/19/2015 06:43 PM »
So -- no clue either way as to whether or not a big circle-X has been painted onto the main landing pad at Landing Complex 1, in preparation for tomorrow's landing attempt?
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #206 on: 12/19/2015 09:23 PM »
So -- no clue either way as to whether or not a big circle-X has been painted onto the main landing pad at Landing Complex 1, in preparation for tomorrow's landing attempt?

No September image is available on the TerraServer, so the latest remains the one from August which has no X.
There are other resources for overhead photography, but a better hope is for a ground based image Tuesday morning with a smudged, shadowed Space-X. ;)

edit: Aligned wording with new launch date
« Last Edit: 12/21/2015 02:38 PM by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?


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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #209 on: 12/21/2015 09:48 PM »
« Last Edit: 12/21/2015 10:00 PM by Req »

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #210 on: 12/21/2015 09:51 PM »
Bigger
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #211 on: 12/21/2015 10:16 PM »
They are going to have to repaint that X a lot :)
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #212 on: 12/21/2015 10:21 PM »
Bigger
Looks big enough for three cores at same time

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #213 on: 12/21/2015 10:35 PM »
I truly believe with the attempt on solid ground and a space much larger than the drone ship, I mean that guy looks like an ant in the middle of the big 'ol X lol, I feel they will nail the attempt on the first try!! C'Mon!!!
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #214 on: 12/22/2015 01:00 AM »
Landing Zone 1 is all they needed to nail it!!
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #215 on: 12/22/2015 01:04 AM »
Anyone seen this? Jeff Bezos on twitter

https://twitter.com/jeffbezos

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Congrats @SpaceX on landing Falcon's suborbital booster stage.  Welcome to the club!

 ::) ;D

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #216 on: 12/22/2015 01:09 AM »
I like the back and forth before Bezos and Musk.  Competition is healthy, even though this was way more impressive.

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« Reply #217 on: 12/22/2015 01:11 AM »
Was I the only one cheering at home like I was watching a football game? LOL. I even had a few tears in my eyes when she touched down, was simply amazing. Cant wait for daylight pictures tomorrow to see how exact in the middle the touch down was.
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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #218 on: 12/22/2015 01:11 AM »
Is anyone going to start the landing discussion thread?  Everyone is still wired from adrenaline and looking for more.

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Re: SpaceX Eastern Range Landing Facilities
« Reply #219 on: 12/22/2015 01:14 AM »
Was I the only one cheering at home like I was watching a football game? LOL. I even had a few tears in my eyes when she touched down, was simply amazing. Cant wait for daylight pictures tomorrow to see how exact in the middle the touch down was.

No, you were not, might have been standard behavior.
Same here at 2:39 am local.  :)

And it was a LOT better than a major victory in sports.

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