Quote from: edzieba on 06/11/2018 02:22 PMFrom some basic measurements of the render: There are two floors of approx 35m in diameter, and possibly one 'basement' level below the windowed section of 15m diameter. That gives about 270m^2 of floor space, 220m^2 being potential viewing area. Each 'level' is about 4.7m high.Or in old money: about 2900sq.ft floor space, 2350 sq.ft viewing, with a bit over 15ft high levels. I think you slipped a bit somewhere. If the "pod" is really 35m in diameter, that means one floor has about 960m2 of floor space. That's about 10000 sq. ft. for just one floor.

From some basic measurements of the render: There are two floors of approx 35m in diameter, and possibly one 'basement' level below the windowed section of 15m diameter. That gives about 270m^2 of floor space, 220m^2 being potential viewing area. Each 'level' is about 4.7m high.Or in old money: about 2900sq.ft floor space, 2350 sq.ft viewing, with a bit over 15ft high levels.

The SpaceX document used 300 feet as a maximum height for any of the buildings in the 32,000 sq. ft. "Launch and Landing Control Center" area, so we can consider that a ceiling.

Quote from: guckyfan on 06/13/2018 07:36 AMAre these water towers 100m high?The SpaceX document used 300 feet as a maximum height for any of the buildings in the 32,000 sq. ft. "Launch and Landing Control Center" area, so we can consider that a ceiling.But since the highest water tower here in the US (as of 2010) is only 221 feet, the SpaceX tower height might be more in that vicinity.The SpaceX tower rendering gives us a convenient scale, ie the parking space marking lines, presumably the standard 9 feet apart. Based on that, I get:Tower height = 200 feetDiameter = 75 feetFloor area at max dia = 4400 sq. ft.So one floor at midpoint of the spheroid should be enough to house LCC in the back, and VIP viewing up front by the window. Or if they do two floors, that's even more square footage. Yeah, it's big.

Are these water towers 100m high?

Quote from: Kabloona on 06/13/2018 01:05 PMQuote from: guckyfan on 06/13/2018 07:36 AMAre these water towers 100m high?The SpaceX document used 300 feet as a maximum height for any of the buildings in the 32,000 sq. ft. "Launch and Landing Control Center" area, so we can consider that a ceiling.But since the highest water tower here in the US (as of 2010) is only 221 feet, the SpaceX tower height might be more in that vicinity.The SpaceX tower rendering gives us a convenient scale, ie the parking space marking lines, presumably the standard 9 feet apart. Based on that, I get:Tower height = 200 feetDiameter = 75 feetFloor area at max dia = 4400 sq. ft.So one floor at midpoint of the spheroid should be enough to house LCC in the back, and VIP viewing up front by the window. Or if they do two floors, that's even more square footage. Yeah, it's big.Have you used the left most parkingspace (~68.4px/5 parking spaces) or rightmost (~33.7px/5spaces)? Also did you try to estimate the perspective effects? The top is closer to the POV and therefore a pixel is less height than a the bottom of that tower. Also there is a angle under which we see the tower (which changes along the height of the tower), this will effect the measurement. We have a two vanishing-point perspective. Lower left corner is 0,0; one VP at ~-25,460 the other VP at ~ 1700,470 with errors of +-10. Sadly I have some work to do now and don't know by hand how to use this information to estimate the height and width of the tower. Maybe I will revisit this and try to do the estimate tonight.Best regardsShanuson

One point perspective... Boy, that's a 300' tall massive tower.

Looks pretty unchanged from 2012. It also looks like there was a burn just north of the intersection in 2012, do you recall if the second treeline across A Avenue is still visible or has the vegetation returned to block the view from the parkway? Burn aftermath visible here, I assume the far treeline visible is the one across A ave: https://www.google.ca/maps/@28.5429509,-80.6598296,3a,83.7y,243.75h,83.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sht_VxCf6-dXtjpUJmYIB-A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656Attatched- 2012 Streetview of Roberts Road & SR 3

Does anyone know if NASA has offered to lease any of the firing rooms at the LC-39 LCC? I'm not sure how many are needed for future SLS operations but at least one is currently being used for KSC bus tours. Wouldn't it be more economical for SpaceX to look into leasing one of those for launch and landing control needs?

Wouldn't it be more economical for SpaceX to look into leasing one of those for launch and landing control needs?