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#120
by
VatTas
on 05 Dec, 2014 14:24
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Is it GoPro looking out of Orion's window? Reflection looked like it.
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#121
by
Rocket Science
on 05 Dec, 2014 14:25
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Answered earlier in the thread.
Answering "yes" or "no" would be easier, but thanks anyway.
Of course it's pressurized.
Should have equipment conditioning as well...
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#122
by
rdale
on 05 Dec, 2014 14:26
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Can't find Orion ephemeris on heavens-above site. How can I know if it's gonna pass over my head in next minutes?
Look at the map on the feed (hint: nowhere near Rome

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#123
by
Hog
on 05 Dec, 2014 14:28
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Can't find Orion ephemeris on heavens-above site. How can I know if it's gonna pass over my head in next minutes?
Its alreadfy passed you, plus it was a bit far South for you to see it. It isnt night time in Rome right now, so you wouldnt se it even if it was direct;y overhead.
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#124
by
newpylong
on 05 Dec, 2014 14:46
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NASA Centers: Johnson, Glenn, Armstrong, Ames
Glenn, Armstrong, Ames had little to do with operational support.
The UAV is from Armstrong, so they are heavily involved in recovery support.
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#125
by
Helodriver
on 05 Dec, 2014 14:49
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Anyone here know the duration of the Delta upper stage disposal burn? How much separation will its reentry track have from that of Orion?
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#126
by
Yeknom-Ecaps
on 05 Dec, 2014 15:28
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NASA Centers: Johnson, Glenn, Armstrong, Ames
Glenn, Armstrong, Ames had little to do with operational support.
Armstrong Center has pilots that will be directing the unmanned MQ-9 flying in the recovery area to photograph the re-entry.
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#127
by
JasonAW3
on 05 Dec, 2014 15:31
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Anyone here know the duration of the Delta upper stage disposal burn? How much separation will its reentry track have from that of Orion?
They said it was a 1 minute burn and it looked likely to splash about 250 miles uprange of the Orion.
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#128
by
Yeknom-Ecaps
on 05 Dec, 2014 15:38
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NASA/DOD did not publish any list of tracking sites for Orion EFT-1.
On NASA TV the commentator mentioned tracking stations participating in the mission: Antigua, South Africa, Diego Garcia, Kwajelein, Hawaii (may have missed one). Any idea what type/city (location) of these stations?
Others I know of are support locations:
Patrick AFB: 920 Rescue Wing, 45th Weather Wing, Range Support Operations
White Sands TDRSS station
Schriever AFB - NORAD tracking
The Eastern Range which is run by the 45th Space Wing's 1st Range Operations Squadron has tracking sites at Cape Canaveral AFS (TEL-IV), JDMTA, and Antigua AS. It is also the lead range for the mission.
The Air Force Satellite Control Network is managed by the 50th Space Wing out of Schriever AFB, CA and has sites at Hawaii, Guam, Vandenberg AFB, and Diego Garcia.
The Army's Reagan Test Site at Kwajelein has tracking assets providing support
The NASA TDRSS has a ground station at White Sands but Goddard SFC distributes the data.
With the orbit out to 3600 miles does the AFSCN tracking reach out that far? How from Earth does a spacecraft need to be where the Deep Space Network has to provide support?
NASA TV also mentioned a South Africa station - type???
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#129
by
LouScheffer
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:04
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With the orbit out to 3600 miles does the AFSCN tracking reach out that far? How from Earth does a spacecraft need to be where the Deep Space Network has to provide support?
NASA TV also mentioned a South Africa station - type???
DSN is not much use until stuff gets at least 10,000 km out. There are only 3 sites, so it needs to be pretty high until you can be sure one of them can see it.
As far as South Africa, what is now the Hartebeesthoek Radio Astronomy Observatory was originally built as a NASA tracking station, and can still be used occasionally for telemetry, I think. No idea if this is the one they refer to, though.
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#130
by
NYC777
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:13
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Does this test flight mean that a significant amount of risk has been retired with respect to EM-1?
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#131
by
jimvela
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:14
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The Air Force Satellite Control Network is managed by the 50th Space Wing out of Schriever AFB, CA and has sites at Hawaii, Guam, Vandenberg AFB, and Diego Garcia.
Schriever AFB is in Colorado Springs, CO...
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#132
by
ehb
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:21
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Congratulations to ULA, LM & NASA for their success today!
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One thing bothered me... & I am no expert in parachute behaviour ...
The main chute performance bothered me a bit. They had an oscillation that caused them to bump into each other and then separate a great distance & repeat. It seems possible that in conditions not too far from today's, they could interfere (tangle or collapse?) with each other.
Was this expected and/or accepted as safe?
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#133
by
Lars-J
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:25
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Congratulations on a great flight!

But why is it taking so long for them to get to Orion? How far away is the ship?
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#134
by
SkipMorrow
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:32
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So, as ORION was falling back to earth, I was watching the altitude on the telemetry display, and it seemed to continuously fall at pretty close to one mile per second. That works out to 3600 mph. Why did it not increase in speed to closer to 5mps? Was I not watching correctly or perhaps looking at the wrong thing?
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#135
by
Lars-J
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:34
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Congratulations on a great flight! 
But why is it taking so long for them to get to Orion? How far away is the ship?
They've been around 120 yards upwind from it for a while, they are waiting for it to power down.
On normal flights they will power it down pretty fast, they are leaving it running for an hour this time to keep collecting telemetry, thermal in particular.
Based on drone and helicopter footage, they appeared to be further away.
Now a bit of speechifying on the NASA comm with USS Anchorage. Annoying to hear people communicate for "posterity" rather than talking directly to each other.
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#136
by
MKremer
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:42
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Congratulations to ULA, LM & NASA for their success today!
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One thing bothered me... & I am no expert in parachute behaviour ...
The main chute performance bothered me a bit. They had an oscillation that caused them to bump into each other and then separate a great distance & repeat. It seems possible that in conditions not too far from today's, they could interfere (tangle or collapse?) with each other.
Was this expected and/or accepted as safe?
Seems like it's pretty common for multiple chutes to oscillate like that for awhile. The SRB chutes did the same thing until near splashdown.
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#137
by
woods170
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:50
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Congratulations to ULA, LM & NASA for their success today!
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One thing bothered me... & I am no expert in parachute behaviour ...
The main chute performance bothered me a bit. They had an oscillation that caused them to bump into each other and then separate a great distance & repeat. It seems possible that in conditions not too far from today's, they could interfere (tangle or collapse?) with each other.
Was this expected and/or accepted as safe?
Seems like it's pretty common for multiple chutes to oscillate like that for awhile. The SRB chutes did the same thing until near splashdown.
Similar behaviour was common on Apollo CM splashdowns as well.
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#138
by
ehb
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:55
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Seems like it's pretty common for multiple chutes to oscillate like that for awhile. The SRB chutes did the same thing until near splashdown.
Similar behaviour was common on Apollo CM splashdowns as well.
Thank you both for the feedback. I will have to look at some SRB and Apollo CM splashdown footage now!
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#139
by
Meister
on 05 Dec, 2014 16:57
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I took a day off yesterday to see the launch, but I couldn't today, so I missed it. Shame. I did see the splashdown, though.