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Offline saliva_sweet

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Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk
Autonomous spaceport drone ship. Thrusters repurposed from deep sea oil rigs hold position within 3m even in a storm.

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Base is 300 ft by 100 ft, with wings that extend width to 170 ft. Will allow refuel & rocket flyback in future.

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Christmas has come early...
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It's.... beautiful!

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Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk
Autonomous spaceport drone ship. Thrusters repurposed from deep sea oil rigs hold position within 3m even in a storm.

Elon Musk ‏@elonmusk
Base is 300 ft by 100 ft, with wings that extend width to 170 ft. Will allow refuel & rocket flyback in future.



I wonder if there's extra points for landing in the yellow circle!

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Apart from the ship needing tanks for kerosene and LOX, they will need a crane to they can mount a nose-cap on the rocket.  Otherwise I can't see it relaunching high and fast enough to return home.
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This means the barge is not a one-off test or demo, but part of long term strategy. I wonder where this leaves RTLS.

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I don't think they leave RTLS. This is IMHO an additional opportunity for landing if needed (eg. heavier payload, FH center core...)
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Long term maybe for FH center cores?

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I imagine the RTLS pads could do double duty. RTLS pads for missions with high prop margins, and the floating spaceport + hop-back for low margin missions.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: 11/22/2014 08:41 PM »
This means the barge is not a one-off test or demo, but part of long term strategy. I wonder where this leaves RTLS.
It's still RTLS.  But in two stages when conditions aren't good enough for direct RTLS.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: 11/22/2014 08:42 PM »
This means the barge is not a one-off test or demo, but part of long term strategy. I wonder where this leaves RTLS.
Sounds like RTLS will be in the form of fly back from the barge :)

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: 11/22/2014 08:43 PM »
If the Booster it taking off from that barge then thats a lot more rocket exhaust the barge has to deal with. Probably not a plain steel deck then.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: 11/22/2014 08:47 PM »
SpaceX could have a dozen of falcon cores and ship them from barge to launch pad and then launch them from pad to barge, enabling a high launch tempo that will satify the demand. Single-hour turnaround is not need until the satellite builders cut their cost down 10x too.

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #14 on: 11/22/2014 09:20 PM »
Whoa.....Space "X" marks the spot.....😄

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #15 on: 11/22/2014 09:21 PM »
If the Booster it taking off from that barge then thats a lot more rocket exhaust the barge has to deal with. Probably not a plain steel deck then.
A simple (but powerful) flooding system can keep a steel deck cool enough.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #16 on: 11/22/2014 09:21 PM »
I'm madly motivated.
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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #17 on: 11/22/2014 09:22 PM »
Even more in

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: 11/22/2014 09:36 PM »
"Barge" is not the proper word to describe an "Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship" which uses thrusters repurposed from deep sea oil rigs to hold position within 3m even in a storm.  ;D

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Re: SpaceX's Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship Discussion Thread
« Reply #19 on: 11/22/2014 09:40 PM »
Quedtion: Where will F9 flights 14 & 15 attempt "solid surface" landings?

Answer: FAA application and on this barge...

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