Author Topic: Pad 39A - Transition to SpaceX Falcon Heavy debut - Thread 1  (Read 244659 times)

Offline The Roadie

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Lookie what a source spotted from the bus route today! T/E (sans paint, it looks like).
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looks like we're getting the design featured in the render eh

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I've been informed that's just the "strongback", not the entire T/E. Makes sense.
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It looks like it's being held so that even as it goes up the slope it keeps the spine horizontal?

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It looks like it's being held so that even as it goes up the slope it keeps the spine horizontal?

Makes sense - the visualizations we've seen from SpaceX show the rocket rolling out tail-first, which means the slope would tilt the nose down, resulting in accelerations that even a horizontally-integrated rocket is not supposed to get subjected to.  Like "eyeballs-out", but without the eyes.
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Here's a dim view of the inside of the hangar on Oct 31 (I took the bus tour after the awesome ULA launch).  Not sure it's useful, but posting in the interest of raw data. Couple more photos in this imgur album.
« Last Edit: 11/05/2015 07:13 PM by lark »

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Here's a dim view of the inside of the hangar on Oct 31 (I took the bus tour after the awesome ULA launch).  Not sure it's useful, but posting in the interest of raw data. Couple more photos in this imgur album.
Here is a brightened version... Not much there in the image data unfortunately. But it is clear that this strong-back is a hefty piece of hardware.
« Last Edit: 11/05/2015 08:48 PM by Lars-J »

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and they've already got fuel on site!  :)
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Here is an even brighter version of the strongback in the hangar.


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I look forward to seeing these thingies (there must be four of them?) in better resolution.

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I look forward to seeing these thingies (there must be four of them?) in better resolution.

 - Ed Kyle

Do you mean the rail bogeys? There's only two of them, at the base. The third holding point - supporting/holding the top of the rocket - is not on rails, as far as I can tell.

See image (from the latest SpaceX FH video):
« Last Edit: 11/05/2015 09:57 PM by Lars-J »

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Yes, I think that's right. It looks like it's on road wheels and you can see the towing tractor in front of it in the first photo.

No sign of any pipework in the strongback or the cladding shown in the rendering, yet. Still early days. I guess this is a first fit check with the launch mount.
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It looks like it's being held so that even as it goes up the slope it keeps the spine horizontal?

Makes sense - the visualizations we've seen from SpaceX show the rocket rolling out tail-first, which means the slope would tilt the nose down, resulting in accelerations that even a horizontally-integrated rocket is not supposed to get subjected to.  Like "eyeballs-out", but without the eyes.

I think there was a previous post which said it would be kept horizontal on the ramp. But it's a bit difficult to tell from the photos if it actually is horizontal. There are also clearance issues at the top of the ramp where the slope changes. The strongback must be high enough off the ground so the underside doesn't come in contact with the ground as it goes over the "hump."

Notice that it's attached to the rail bogey by what looks like a hydraulic ram. This might be the leveling mechanism.
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What is the means of locomotion?

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I've been informed that's just the "strongback", not the entire T/E. Makes sense.


Don't see a pad base, so that makes sense

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I look forward to seeing these thingies (there must be four of them?) in better resolution.

 - Ed Kyle

There's a bunch of new photos in the L2 39A section from better viewpoints (KSC people, not bus tour people), with it now up on the pad. Amazing structure.

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Can one of these photos PERHAPS be shared on here? ;D And this structure STAYS on the pad surface permanently, correct?
« Last Edit: 11/06/2015 01:22 PM by shuttlefan »

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Is this an Transporter Erector Launcher (TEL) or is it a Transporter Erector (TE) with a launcher and the stage on top of it? And I agree with the non L2 picture share request.

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What is the means of locomotion?

Thought I spotted a tow tractor similar to the one used at SLC-40 in the first photo.
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What is the means of locomotion?

Thought I spotted a tow tractor similar to the one used at SLC-40 in the first photo.

Yeah it's hard to make that out and that would mean the TE would be pushed, which seems unlikely.
« Last Edit: 11/06/2015 03:23 PM by oiorionsbelt »

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