Author Topic: FAILURE: Space Ship Two Test Flight - UPDATES - Oct. 31, 2014  (Read 320015 times)

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SpaceShipTwo Crash: Co-Pilot Triggered Failure, NTSB Says | Video

Published on Jul 28, 2015
Incident investigators find that SpaceShipTwo’s re-entry feather system was manually unlocked too early in the flight causing extreme aerodynamic loading leading to catastrophic structural failure.

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Video shown during NTSB Board Meeting on in-flight breakup of SpaceShipTwo near Mojave, CA.

Published on Jul 28, 2015
Scale Composites Spaceshiptwo Powered Flight #4

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Virgin Galactic has posted some interesting documents, including the report of their investigation submitted to the NTSB back on May 29, 2015 (presumably -- the papers are dated May 29, 2014, which must be a typo) and an executive summary of that report.

VG_and_TSC_NTSB_Party_Submission.pdf (1.4 MB, 36 pages)
VG_and_TSC_NTSB_Executive_Summary.pdf (202 kB, 6 pages)

The report is lightly redacted in a couple of places, but it is full of interesting information.

Files from: http://image.net/virgingalactic under Latest Documents.

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Edit: Files attached.
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The video of todays meeting is up on the NTSB video archive.
http://stream.capitolconnection.org/capcon/ntsb/ntsb.htm
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A spaceship pilot’s survival story

Peter Siebold recalls plunging 10 miles to Earth through icy air, fighting to breathe and release his seat belt. His copilot died.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-virgin-pilot-testimony-20150727-story.html#page=1

Edit: Updated link to free site per request below.
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A spaceship pilot’s survival story

Peter Siebold recalls plunging 10 miles to Earth through icy air, fighting to breathe and release his seat belt. His copilot died.

http://eedition2.latimes.com/Olive/ODE/LATimes2/

Hit the link.  Takes one to the subscription page, so I assume that one has to suscribe in order to read the article . . . .

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A spaceship pilot’s survival story

Peter Siebold recalls plunging 10 miles to Earth through icy air, fighting to breathe and release his seat belt. His copilot died.

http://eedition2.latimes.com/Olive/ODE/LATimes2/

Hit the link.  Takes one to the subscription page, so I assume that one has to suscribe in order to read the article . . . .
Here's a link outside the paywall.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-virgin-pilot-testimony-20150727-story.html#page=1

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Here is the preliminary synopsis of the NTSB’s report.
  2015_spaceship2_BMG_abstract.pdf (51 kB, 8 pages)

And here are the slides which were presented during the hearing by Lorenda Ward, Investigator-in-Charge; Dr. Catherine Wilson, Human Performance Group Chairman; & Mike Hauf, System Safety Group Chairman.
  2015_spaceship2_BMG_IICpresentation.pdf (2.6 MB, 16 pages)
  2015_spaceship2_BMG_HumanPerformancePresentation.pdf (2.4 MB, 11 pages)
  2015_spaceship2_BMG_SystemSafety_presentation.pdf (1.8 MB, 8 pages)

Documents are from the board meeting page: http://ntsb.gov/news/events/Pages/2015_spaceship2_BMG.aspx

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Edit: The synopsis states that final revisions are still being make to the full report which will be distributed as soon as possible, but Doug Messier is running a story with annotated images from the final few hundred ms of SS2 boom cam video showing initial breakup.  He describes the source as "a National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) document", so perhaps the full report has already been released to recommendation recipients, though it is not yet on the NTSB's Accident Reports page.
Edit2: Added presentation slides.
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A spaceship pilot’s survival story

Peter Siebold recalls plunging 10 miles to Earth through icy air, fighting to breathe and release his seat belt. His copilot died.

http://eedition2.latimes.com/Olive/ODE/LATimes2/

Hit the link.  Takes one to the subscription page, so I assume that one has to suscribe in order to read the article . . . .
Here's a link outside the paywall.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-virgin-pilot-testimony-20150727-story.html#page=1

Thanks Sam Ho, I updated my link above.
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Short article with most of the main points.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/07/ntsb-findings-spaceshiptwo-failure/
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Space Ship One - Good Flight with NTSB Comparison

I've made a side by side comparison of the NTSB video with a good flight to illustrate the premature feathering event.  After the event occurs, the good flight continues until the proper time when the feathering process should occur.

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ROCKET CRASH PROBE RAISES FLAGS

Pieces of falling spaceship barely missed people, new evidence shows:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-faa-virgin-crash-20150801-story.html#page=1

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Newly released evidence in the investigation of last fall's crash of an experimental spaceship over the Mojave Desert is raising questions about whether federal aviation regulators are protecting the public as companies launch more rockets.

When Virgin Galactic's SpaceShipTwo disintegrated on a test flight on Oct. 31, killing one of two pilots, debris rained down over 33 miles of desert northeast of Los Angeles, including some pieces landing dangerously close to the public.

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WARNING:

 there are many transcription errors (not by Chris) in this real-time transcription of the webcast done by NTSB. If a word or phrase doesn't make sense, use your imagination to find a homonym that does make sense.

I have cleaned up the transcript of Tuesday's board meeting, and Trent has graciously agreed to host it, despite it being unrelated to Mr. Musk.

http://shitelonsays.com/transcript/ntsb-commercial-space-launch-accident-spaceshiptwo-2015-07-28

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WARNING:

 there are many transcription errors (not by Chris) in this real-time transcription of the webcast done by NTSB. If a word or phrase doesn't make sense, use your imagination to find a homonym that does make sense.

I have cleaned up the transcript of Tuesday's board meeting, and Trent has graciously agreed to host it, despite it being unrelated to Mr. Musk.

http://shitelonsays.com/transcript/ntsb-commercial-space-launch-accident-spaceshiptwo-2015-07-28

~Kirk

Thanks for your efforts.. that's great - but you missed one that I simply must highlight:  "..pilots were aware of the risk of unlocking the feather during the transatlantic phase of the flight"

Classic.  Pure classic...  ;D

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Thanks for your efforts.. that's great - but you missed one that I simply must highlight:  "..pilots were aware of the risk of unlocking the feather during the transatlantic phase of the flight"

Classic.  Pure classic...  ;D

Thanks CameronD!  Corrected.  All corrections, however minor, are welcome, though if they are not funny enough to warrant posting on the forum, then it might be best to simply PM me.  Yours was perhaps the funniest, but I believe the strangest to be:
STAFF HAS HANDED ME SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE PREPARED IS A REVISION TO THE HOLOCAUST.
which should have been: "... as a revision to the probable cause."  At least I didn't let that one slip by!

Note: I got stung by the 64kB TEXT data type storage limit and only the first 1hr22min of the transcript saved when I posted it yesterday.  Trent has bumped up the limit and the entire transcript is now up.  Thanks Trent!

http://shitelonsays.com/transcript/ntsb-commercial-space-launch-accident-spaceshiptwo-2015-07-28

~Kirk

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