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NG's CEV in AW by rsp1202 on 31 Jul, 2006 23:10
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"Aviation Week" Magazine, July 31 edition, page 16: Northrop-Grumman is running a full-page ad of a mockup of their Crew Exploration Vehicle design, which I believe is a first. I'm without scanner so can't post the image, and don't know about copyrights, et al. Perhaps another member of the forum who's more learned can find a way to get this online without ruffling feathers. I did a double-take when I saw it. Its propped on its side, with photo taken from front-quarter position. I would guess it's the 5.5m version, and it looks BIG.
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#1 by astrobrian on 31 Jul, 2006 23:21
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This is the last release that I have seen from NG unless someone here has something newer or closer to what rsp1202 speaks of.
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#2 by rsp1202 on 31 Jul, 2006 23:25
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This is new, a "live" shot with techs standing around it as it sits on a test jig. It's hard to tell, but one of their computer monitors looks like it's showing a view of CEV's interior with control panel, etc.
LM has also posted new graphics for its CEV. Go to:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/wms/findPage.do?dsp=fec&ci=17691&rsbci=0&fti=0&ti=0&sc=400 -
#3 by HailColumbia on 01 Aug, 2006 00:58
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Now, lockheed's SM is clearly differant then what DAC-2 specified. If Lockheed wins, will they be allowed to build the SM how they want?
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#4 by Jim on 01 Aug, 2006 01:41
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HailColumbia - 31/7/2006 8:45 PM
Now, lockheed's SM is clearly differant then what DAC-2 specified. If Lockheed wins, will they be allowed to build the SM how they want?
Why use two engines, when RCS can be used as a backup? -
#5 by Chris Bergin on 01 Aug, 2006 01:57
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HailColumbia - 1/8/2006 1:45 AM
Now, lockheed's SM is clearly differant then what DAC-2 specified. If Lockheed wins, will they be allowed to build the SM how they want?
I would say they are just way behind the DAC-2 changes. The images would take a long time to draw up and DAC-2 was only a week ago. -
#6 by Propforce on 01 Aug, 2006 02:29
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Interesting artwork. First time I've ever see *air* gush by the CEV in *space* !!
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#7 by simonbp on 01 Aug, 2006 02:41
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Propforce - 31/7/2006 7:16 PM
Interesting artwork. First time I've ever see *air* gush by the CEV in *space* !!
I think that's supposed to be motion blur...
Simon
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#8 by collectSPACE on 01 Aug, 2006 03:09
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rsp1202 - 31/7/2006 6:12 PM
Here's the ad/mock-up.
This is new, a "live" shot with techs standing around it as it sits on a test jig. It's hard to tell, but one of their computer monitors looks like it's showing a view of CEV's interior with control panel, etc.
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#9 by HailColumbia on 01 Aug, 2006 03:39
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Looks a lot bigger there then it does in those DAC-2 Drawings.
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#10 by yinzer on 01 Aug, 2006 04:10
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I held a ruler up to the screen, and the guy with the silver hair is almost exactly 1/3rd the height of the CEV. If the CEV is 5.5m in diameter, that'd make him almost 6 feet tall, which seems reasonable.
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#11 by josh_simonson on 01 Aug, 2006 04:46
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I like how one of the lockheed photos shows the CEV/SM in orbit with the launch escape system still attached. I think i read on the side of the CEV "I hauled 4t to orbit and all I got was this stupid beanie!"
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#12 by Propforce on 01 Aug, 2006 04:55
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yinzer - 31/7/2006 8:57 PM
I held a ruler up to the screen, and the guy with the silver hair is almost exactly 1/3rd the height of the CEV. If the CEV is 5.5m in diameter, that'd make him almost 6 feet tall, which seems reasonable.
You MUST BE an engineer....
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#13 by vt_hokie on 01 Aug, 2006 07:07
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Just saw the ad in the latest issue of Space News. Looks like an Apollo capsule...no big surprises.
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#14 by gladiator1332 on 01 Aug, 2006 14:20
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That image really shows you how big the CEV really is. I remember going to the Air and Space Museum and KSC and how I was surprised by how relatively small the Apollo CM really is. In some ways it made my Hodna Civic look roomy. I think some of the Apollo astronauts are going to be very jealous of the Orion astronauts.
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#15 by CuddlyRocket on 01 Aug, 2006 16:43
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gladiator1332 - 1/8/2006 3:07 PM
Who won't be!
I think some of the Apollo astronauts are going to be very jealous of the Orion astronauts.
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#16 by meiza on 01 Aug, 2006 17:03
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But isn't the CEV 5 m in diameter now?
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#17 by hyper_snyper on 01 Aug, 2006 17:14
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meiza - 1/8/2006 12:50 PM
But isn't the CEV 5 m in diameter now?
Yeah.
Do we know that pic is of the 5 or 5.5? Either way, its going to be big. All this time I had imagined it smaller in my head. -
#18 by rsp1202 on 01 Aug, 2006 18:36
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We haven't seen any company's 5.0 yet.
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#19 by astrobrian on 01 Aug, 2006 20:40
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HailColumbia - 31/7/2006 10:26 PM Looks a lot bigger there then it does in those DAC-2 Drawings.
Its always good to have something next to it you can relate size to. It looks like it could hold 4 crew members comfortably, still not quite sure how 6 might work though.
