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Offline Nilof

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #20 on: 10/11/2014 12:35 pm »
Will the Farmer be a future SpaceX astronaut?  ;D
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I'm guessing they're hiring both for tax incentives/extra land revenue/whatever and to have a farmer around when discussing food production in their future colonies. Or for the actual colonisation part.

The early history of the colonization of the americas is called "the starving time" because they sent too many goldsmiths and almost no one with farming experience. I guess SpaceX doesn't want to replicate that mistake.
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #21 on: 10/11/2014 01:17 pm »
I got the right guy. Knows farming and handy with tools and rockets. Has his own suit. ;D
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #22 on: 10/11/2014 01:32 pm »

... and to have a farmer around when discussing food production in their future colonies. Or for the actual colonisation part.

The early history of the colonization of the americas is called "the starving time" because they sent too many goldsmiths and almost no one with farming experience. I guess SpaceX doesn't want to replicate that mistake.

Doubtful.

Traditional farming on Mars would require a huge amount of pressurized volume per person.  A more likely approach to growing food would use hydroponics and strong artificial light.  This would reduce the pressurized volume per person by an order of magnitude or more.

In any case, growing food on Mars will be significantly different than growing food on Earth, so the skills of a typical farmer on Earth will be of little use.
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #23 on: 10/11/2014 01:40 pm »
The open land around the launch site needs to be maintained. If let alone, it would grow wild and attract critters. They could spray it and kill everything, or they could use it productively. That would enhance the site's image and probably be viewed favorably in the community. They could donate the food and write off the farming activity. It might even garner tax advantages.

Of course, they might be looking forward toward their methalox engine and want to grow the bio feed stock for methane production—rocket fuel.  ;)
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #24 on: 10/11/2014 01:48 pm »
This posting sounds like it's for the test site, not the launch site.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #25 on: 10/11/2014 01:52 pm »
After the recent GH2 incident and smaller fires on the property from other tests, these may be less prone to spread if the fields are properly maintained.
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #26 on: 10/11/2014 01:56 pm »
The open land around the launch site needs to be maintained. If let alone, it would grow wild and attract critters. They could spray it and kill everything, or they could use it productively. That would enhance the site's image and probably be viewed favorably in the community. They could donate the food and write off the farming activity. It might even garner tax advantages.

Of course, they might be looking forward toward their methalox engine and want to grow the bio feed stock for methane production—rocket fuel.  ;)

This posting sounds like it's for the test site, not the launch site.

Yes, the Job posting clearly says:
Job Location
McGregor, TX, United States


So this has nothing to do with the launch site near Brownsville.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #27 on: 10/11/2014 02:11 pm »
Ah. My bad.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #28 on: 10/11/2014 02:44 pm »
A wild guess, but in addition to making a bit of money, maintaining grounds etc.. I assume ground cover would absorb a decent amount of ground level noise.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #29 on: 10/11/2014 02:52 pm »
At the AIAA Space 2014 conference Lauren Dreyer, SpaceX Director of Business Affairs for McGregor, said the McGregor facility is 1000 acres, average 2 engine tests per day, and has 250 employees.  1000 acres provides a great opportunity to be good stewards of the land and possibly help the local community.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #30 on: 10/11/2014 02:52 pm »
Any idea why they want to hire a farmer instead of renting the land to a local farmer?
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #31 on: 10/11/2014 03:01 pm »
Any idea why they want to hire a farmer instead of renting the land to a local farmer?
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #32 on: 10/11/2014 03:31 pm »
This thread is just nonsense.  All this fuss because of a farmer job posting?   Are we going to have a similar thread for when they post landscaping jobs for mowing the grass too? 

This is nothing out of the ordinary, KSC still has active orchards that are leased to producers.  Just because it has Spacex on it, somebody has to make a big deal of it. 

If spaceflight is suppose to be routine, then don't make a big of deal of routine items.
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #33 on: 10/11/2014 03:37 pm »
It's a routine SpaceX thread, Jim.  Why are you making a big deal over it?
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #34 on: 10/11/2014 03:44 pm »
I think this was mostly meant as a less-than-entirely-serious discussion.
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #35 on: 10/11/2014 03:45 pm »
Any idea why they want to hire a farmer instead of renting the land to a local farmer?

Potential legal issues if an accident damaged the crops. If they leased the land, the crops belongs to the farmer. If they hire a farmer to tend crops owned by SpaceX, then there's no problem.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #36 on: 10/11/2014 06:28 pm »
This thread is just nonsense.  All this fuss because of a farmer job posting?   Are we going to have a similar thread for when they post landscaping jobs for mowing the grass too? 

This is nothing out of the ordinary, KSC still has active orchards that are leased to producers.  Just because it has Spacex on it, somebody has to make a big deal of it. 

If spaceflight is suppose to be routine, then don't make a big of deal of routine items.

Uh I don't think this has anything to do with SpaceX. If Boeing did the same or NASA did the same I think a post would also appear for those. I had not heard that KSC had orchards. It's made more obvious by SpaceX's job postings not being behind a login-wall like many corporations. I can't even find Boeing's job postings without creating an account for example.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #37 on: 10/11/2014 07:03 pm »
My theory is that they need a source for the methane for their new rockets; cows are the worlds biggest methane source iirc.
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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #38 on: 10/11/2014 08:04 pm »

Uh I don't think this has anything to do with SpaceX. If Boeing did the same or NASA did the same I think a post would also appear for those. I had not heard that KSC had orchards.

Get real, it has everything to do with Spacex.  Nobody would have posted it if it was done by other organizations.
 Also, VAFB has cultivated fields on it.

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Re: SpaceX is hiring a farmer
« Reply #39 on: 10/11/2014 08:08 pm »
Must be news since I never knew that there are farming activities in KSC and VAFB.....how are the arrangements done?  :o (especially with VAFB since it is an air force base after all....)
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