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#40
by
savuporo
on 31 Dec, 2014 16:15
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Somewhat terrifying, that people stand this close and touching the engines, while toxic fumes rise from the wreckage.
Its creepy as hell to see kids, especially the girl in the pink coat staring into the nozzles and have yellow fumes on the background. But then, this isnt new and has been going on forever in both China, siberia and Mongoila, except that now people in the villages have digital cameras and internet.
Sooooo ... how many people to refurbish the stage ? / ducks and hides
EDIT: btw the same images now here in stock photo collection
http://ww.corbisimages.com/Search#lc=Guizhou+Province,+China&p=1&sort=3And oh, launching with hydrazine over the sea is so much better, because dolphins don't have digital cameras and internet, not yet anyway
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#41
by
edkyle99
on 31 Dec, 2014 16:28
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Was that supposed to happen? I'm confused.
Yes. China drops stages over land during launches from its inland launch sites. This will start to change when its new sea-side launch site opens. Russia, BTW, does the same thing, but seems to keep people out of the "drop boxes" better than China.
- Ed Kyle
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#42
by
averagespacejoe
on 31 Dec, 2014 17:07
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Should be the 92nd launch of the year, the most since 1994. December was a really busy month.
I just wanted to say it looks like you were correct I went back and counted 92 was the magic number I can't wait to see us break 100 again.
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#43
by
otisbow
on 31 Dec, 2014 17:23
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The Fengyun weather satellite looks like the old Hughes GSO satellite of the 70s.
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#44
by
Star One
on 31 Dec, 2014 17:28
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Was that supposed to happen? I'm confused.
Yes. China drops stages over land during launches from its inland launch sites. This will start to change when its new sea-side launch site opens. Russia, BTW, does the same thing, but seems to keep people out of the "drop boxes" better than China.
- Ed Kyle
OT but when is that launch site likely to start coming on line?
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#45
by
Kryten
on 31 Dec, 2014 17:41
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OT but when is that launch site likely to start coming on line?
It's considered finished now, the limiting factor is the new rockets. The first launch (using CZ-6) is scheduled for June or July.
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#46
by
apollolanding
on 31 Dec, 2014 17:55
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#47
by
input~2
on 31 Dec, 2014 20:17
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#48
by
eeergo
on 02 Jan, 2015 12:24
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It has been said that the yellow fumes were actually caused by a flare to mark the stage's position for recovery teams.
That doesn't alleviate the fact that unprotected people were allowed to touch and stand next to components that may have been slightly contaminated, but somehow it was strange to think they would be allowed (or able!) to roam around clearly leaking hypergols. Maybe the pictures with people around were taken after air sampling and experts determined there was nothing -too- hazardous left.
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#49
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 02 Jan, 2015 13:47
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#50
by
Phillip Clark
on 02 Jan, 2015 14:56
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If it's not manoeuvred I am assuming that object A is the third stage and FY-2 has still to be located (it's much smaller!).
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#51
by
input~2
on 02 Jan, 2015 15:12
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#52
by
Satori
on 03 Jan, 2015 18:15
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A few launch images from Xinhua...
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#53
by
OxCartMark
on 05 Jan, 2015 03:01
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It has been said that the yellow fumes were actually caused by a flare to mark the stage's position for recovery teams.
That doesn't alleviate the fact that unprotected people were allowed to touch and stand next to components that may have been slightly contaminated, but somehow it was strange to think they would be allowed (or able!) to roam around clearly leaking hypergols. Maybe the pictures with people around were taken after air sampling and experts determined there was nothing -too- hazardous left.
I find it most oddlifying that once they had blocked off a perimeter and posted guards the guards were all wearing paper or cheese cloth masks over their mouths and noses to protect against the gas. Umm, guys, its a gas and goes through those masks as well as the air you are breathing. Duh.
Mark
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#54
by
Phillip Clark
on 05 Jan, 2015 06:03
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If it's not manoeuvred I am assuming that object A is the third stage and FY-2 has still to be located (it's much smaller!).
The thing being tracked as object A from this launch is still in GTO, making me even more certain that this is the CZ-3A third stage, and FY-2 itself has yet to be tracked and catalogued. When it is found the object in GTO should switch to become B, while the satellite in GEO becomes A.
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#55
by
Liss
on 05 Jan, 2015 08:24
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The thing being tracked as object A from this launch is still in GTO, making me even more certain that this is the CZ-3A third stage, and FY-2 itself has yet to be tracked and catalogued. When it is found the object in GTO should switch to become B, while the satellite in GEO becomes A.
Talking about recent launches, we still do not see in the U.S. catalogue (near) GEO elements for Yamal 401 (40345, 2014-082A; with one exception only GTO elements for Briz-M tank were published); Angara 5 Briz-M/GVM combination (40355, 2014-085A; also only tank orbit elsets were published); and FY-2G. It may be policy or neglegence; the former is inconvenient but the latter frightens.
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#56
by
Ohsin
on 05 Jan, 2015 09:39
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It seems it landed engines first and had good roll. I aligned images of stage in midair.
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#57
by
cscott
on 05 Jan, 2015 21:18
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For comparison, I calculated the energy (potential + kinetic) of the FY-2G first stage compared to an F9 first stage here:
Asssuming the stage masses are roughly comparable, the F9 has 1.76x the energy of the chinese stage. It's likely that the F9 first stage is actually slightly heavier (since it's a two stage rocket) which would broaden the gap.
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#58
by
Fuji
on 06 Jan, 2015 10:46
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#59
by
input~2
on 07 Jan, 2015 11:43
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If it's not manoeuvred I am assuming that object A is the third stage and FY-2 has still to be located (it's much smaller!).
The thing being tracked as object A from this launch is still in GTO, making me even more certain that this is the CZ-3A third stage, and FY-2 itself has yet to be tracked and catalogued. When it is found the object in GTO should switch to become B, while the satellite in GEO becomes A.
It' s been done. New object A is practically in GEO (35769 x 35795 km @2.29°@99.4°E)
