Author Topic: LIVE: Commercial Crew (CCtCAP) award decision - KSC 4PM EDT - Sept. 16, 2014 (Read 97850 times)

guru · « **Reply #60 on:** 09/16/2014 08:21 pm »

$6.8 billion. Up to 48 seats. $141.7 million per person. That's what it cost to fly the space shuttle.

Space Ghost 1962 · « **Reply #61 on:** 09/16/2014 08:21 pm »

keys to the doorway of space

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #62 on:** 09/16/2014 08:22 pm »

Shuttle astronaut for the day NASA officially went exclusively to capsules.

abaddon · « **Reply #63 on:** 09/16/2014 08:22 pm »

Quote from: guru on 09/16/2014 08:21 pm

$6.8 billion. Up to 48 seats. $141.7 million per person. That's what it cost to fly the space shuttle.

Not when you include development costs... which you are doing.

kirghizstan · « **Reply #64 on:** 09/16/2014 08:22 pm »

Quote from: Lars-J on 09/16/2014 08:20 pm

Each provider will make one crewed flight to ISS.

Excellent! Taking both systems to a flight ready state will ensure that at least one will be successful.

Quote from: kirghizstan on 09/16/2014 08:20 pm
$4.2B at 6 flights of 4 is $175M per seat
$2.6B at 6 flights of 4 is $108M per seat

Where do people get the 6 flight from? And if so only one of them will be crewed.

this is an update thread, but they said 2-6 flights

avollhar · « **Reply #65 on:** 09/16/2014 08:23 pm »

Quote from: guru on 09/16/2014 08:21 pm

$6.8 billion. Up to 48 seats. $141.7 million per person. That's what it cost to fly the space shuttle.

Yep, but at Commercial Crew this includes the development. At Space Shuttle, this was on every flight..

I am pretty sure we will quickly see who is progressing better with the funds allocated. This will be interesting 3 years.

PahTo · « **Reply #66 on:** 09/16/2014 08:23 pm »

Someone needs to remind Gen Bolden that CST-100 achieving orbit depends on "The Russians"...

woods170 · « **Reply #67 on:** 09/16/2014 08:23 pm »

"technologically advanced" is a really tough set of words to pronounce...

Malderi · « **Reply #68 on:** 09/16/2014 08:24 pm »

Yeah, cost breakdown still needs to include what NASA put in for development under previous iterations, plus Boeing and SpaceX did put in some of their own funds.

Of course, after those 2-6 flights per provider, they'll be around for future flights. If ISS is around until 2028, and commercial crew starts in 2017, then you're looking at 11 years/2 per year = 22 flights total, or 11 per ship if split evenly.

Once ISS is gone - in 2020, or 2028, or somewhere in between - then what happens?

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #69 on:** 09/16/2014 08:24 pm »

Site's getting hammered. Guest access removed as I warned may happen.

woods170 · « **Reply #70 on:** 09/16/2014 08:24 pm »

Quote from: PahTo on 09/16/2014 08:23 pm

Someone needs to remind Gen Bolden that CST-100 achieving orbit depends on "The Russians"...

Nah, ULA is already working that. Getting CST-100 to orbit will soon depend on Blue Origin.

Space Ghost 1962 · « **Reply #71 on:** 09/16/2014 08:24 pm »

More people working on the ISS (7)

Star One · « **Reply #72 on:** 09/16/2014 08:26 pm »

Quote from: woods170 on 09/16/2014 08:24 pm

Quote from: PahTo on 09/16/2014 08:23 pm

Someone needs to remind Gen Bolden that CST-100 achieving orbit depends on "The Russians"...

Nah, ULA is already working that. Getting CST-100 to orbit will soon depend on Blue Origin.

Soon as I read that news this morning I suspected Boeing was one of the winners.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #73 on:** 09/16/2014 08:26 pm »

Limited time for questions as Bolden needs to catch a plane.

DanielW · « **Reply #74 on:** 09/16/2014 08:27 pm »

Selection Rationale will not be provided today. :-(

Targeteer · « **Reply #75 on:** 09/16/2014 08:28 pm »

contracts are for certification and a max of 6 missions per contract

mspacek · « **Reply #76 on:** 09/16/2014 08:29 pm »

"I wasn't a part of the selection process..."

Seems like no one on-stage was. Maybe we're listening to the wrong press conference?

DanielW · « **Reply #77 on:** 09/16/2014 08:29 pm »

Quote from: Targeteer on 09/16/2014 08:28 pm

contracts are for certification and a max of 6 missions per contract

With an additional amount for "special studies" Would be nice to know what they mean by that.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #78 on:** 09/16/2014 08:30 pm »

Bolden was not part of the selection process.

CCP Board was made of a team of experienced NASA civil servants. Rigorous process. Confident with the awards.

woods170 · « **Reply #79 on:** 09/16/2014 08:30 pm »

Basically, to get SpaceX to the station costs about two-thirds of getting Boeing to the station. Not bad..., but not as cheap as Elon had promised. Disappointing.