LIVE: Commercial Crew (CCtCAP) award decision - KSC 4PM EDT - Sept. 16, 2014

[BeanEstimator]

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where to begin...
how about, where is this money coming from?  are they telling me that the FY15 PBR will fund this selection and contract adequately?  really?...

www.nasa.gov/budget

CCP
fy13 actual 525.0
fy 14 enact 696.0
fy15 request 848.3
fy16 notional 872.3
fy17 notional 791.7
fy18 notional 730.9
fy19 notional 172.0 

[yg1968]

The value of the contracts based on what companies offered in their proposal. That is the reason for the difference. There is two providers because the selection officer felt that it was in the best interest of NASA.

[punder]

WAY TO GO KEITH!

Edit, just glad he asked the $1.6B question in a forthright way.

No answer of course.

[Chris Bergin]

SpaceX Statement from Elon:

“SpaceX is deeply honored by the trust NASA has placed in us.  We welcome today’s decision and the mission it advances with gratitude and seriousness of purpose. It is a vital step in a journey that will ultimately take us to the stars and make humanity a multi-planet species."

[tvillars]

Would someone please ask who owns the first stage after the tests flight completes.

Also does the contract allow SpaceX to use a used rocket.

[yg1968]

NASA will honour its remaining milestones with SNC under CCiCap.

[stichtom]

Boeing: "The spacecraft will undergo a pad-abort test in 2016, an uncrewed flight in early 2017, leading up to the first crewed flight to the ISS in mid-2017."

[abaddon]

Would someone please ask who owns the first stage after the tests flight completes.

Also does the contract allow SpaceX to use a used rocket.

NASA is purchasing the service.  They do not own the equipment.  That includes rockets and capsules.  (But not astros ).

[Joffan]

Would someone please ask who owns the first stage after the tests flight completes.

Also does the contract allow SpaceX to use a used rocket.

Who owns the taxi you use to go to the airport after you get there? It's a service contract, with NASA playing two parts: the passenger and the regulator.

[Targeteer]

asked about the value of the contract compared to Soyuz flights--4th crew member provided, mid-deck lockers with ability to deliver and return time sensitive cargo, and launching from US soil

[wannamoonbase]

Would someone please ask who owns the first stage after the tests flight completes.

Also does the contract allow SpaceX to use a used rocket.

NASA is purchasing the service.  They do not own the equipment.  That includes rockets and capsules.  (But not astros ).

I hope so.  I can possible see NASA wanting new cores, but I don't see them preventing re-use for other payloads.

In general it's not a surprise.  I think we all suspected that the Boeing lobby machine and it's shear size would be in the mix.  The lop sided award is disappointing.

I'm cheering for SpaceX to beat them in the milestones and put people up before Big-B.

[Targeteer]

contraction duration question taken for later response

[Targeteer]

dodges question about details of the contracts

[yg1968]

It might be possible for SNC to continue its CCiCap partnership on an unfunded basis (similar to what Blue Origin has been doing under CCDev-2).

[yg1968]

Source selection statement will be released at the appropriate time.

[Targeteer]

source selection statement or more details will be released at a future, undetermined time

[MP99]

...
where to begin...
how about, where is this money coming from?  are they telling me that the FY15 PBR will fund this selection and contract adequately?  really?...

www.nasa.gov/budget

CCP
fy13 actual 525.0
fy 14 enact 696.0
fy15 request 848.3
fy16 notional 872.3
fy17 notional 791.7
fy18 notional 730.9
fy19 notional 172.0

It appears from the follow on conference that the figures are the max amounts if all six flights are taken up. So, the amounts up to 2017 should be somewhat less than that.

Cheers, Martin

[BeanEstimator]

"2017 is the goal"..."but the contract would not expire..."

"We currently have plans, and credible schedules, to get certified by 2017, but we will not sacrifice crew safety for that goal"

Q: Asks again about CR!

(go to transcript for charlie answer?)

Q: Contract duration? special studies?

"I dont remember what the PoP is for the contract.  There is a PoP from which we can order missions....should have had my contracts person here..."

Nothing on special studies.

Q: When can we ask about contract selection details? at what point?
Q: Boeing reliance on russian rocket engines part of consideration?

"Still at beginning of our post-award, just awarded today...we still need to go...and debrief the offerors, and then we will start to provide additional info at appropriate time."
"So we...when we ask for proposals, we asked for integrated transportation system.  And part of that integ crew system we also ask them to address risk mitigation with their particular concept/system...all the offerors have provided risk mitigation plans for their particular transportation capability and we're confident that with those risk mitigation we have strategies safe, reliable crew transpo capabilities to the ISS."

Q: Will nasa release the source selection document for this procurement?

"Still activities need to happen to complete procurement..." Debrief example
"Will be released at appropriate time...do not have a timeline for that right now"

[yg1968]

Most of the funding is for certification.

[yg1968]

Special studies can be for certain additional tests that NASA wants. It can also be for requirements that NASA didn't think of at the time of the RFP.