SpaceX Falcon 9 : BulgariaSat-1 : June 23, 2017 : DISCUSSION

[Star One]

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Rocket is extra toasty and hit the deck hard (used almost all of the emergency crush core), but otherwise good

Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.

Why? They don't reuse the legs and they seem to be replacing all the TPS anyway right now, so how much of it was used is irrelevant.

They don't seem to have plans to reuse block 3 stages more than once anyway, but I don't see why this one is any worse than any others.

Surprising are they not suitable for any more than one reuse?

[The_Ronin]

was this the first successful 3 engine landing burn?

[JWag]

Even accounting for that, my gut tells me it's tilted too much. We shall see soon enough.

Drew some red lines eyeballing various vertical elements in the picture.

I got $1 says she's a-tiltin'

[jimbowman]

"It's an aluminum honeycomb cartridge, so only a couple of hours to replace"

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[whitelancer64]

My attempt at removing the distortion.

Looks much better!!!

[Lars-J]

Don't see any reason it couldn't be reused again.  Depending on how much refurbishment they want to do.  Too early to make that determination on our part.

Since they are transitioning to block 4 (in 2 flights?) and soon block 5, it might also be too much trouble to reuse it, even if it is in top shape.

[Lars-J]

Even accounting for that, my gut tells me it's tilted too much. We shall see soon enough.

Drew some red lines eyeballing various vertical elements in the picture.

I got $1 says she's a-tiltin'

You are doing it wrong. Lines are NOT straight at all in this lens. Or do you think the ocean is curved?

[Survtech]

Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.

I was under the impression that being a (Block 3?) booster, it wasn't slated for reuse anyway.

[kevin-rf]

The good folks in west central Africa are about to get a interesting night light show as the 2nd stage retstarts.

How dark is the sky there yet? Downtrack, if there's a fuel dump, might be even more spectacular?

Here's my overview of typical fuel dump cloud spotting in the past...
http://satobs.org/seesat_ref/misc/Space_clouds-Strange_Spinoff_of_the_Space_Age.pdf
 

Should be what, 8, 9pm

[Star One]

Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.

I was under the impression that being a (Block 3?) booster, it wasn't slated for reuse anyway.

Isn't Sunday's launch the final block 3 use?

[intrepidpursuit]

They don't seem to have plans to reuse block 3 stages more than once anyway, but I don't see why this one is any worse than any others.

Surprising are they not suitable for any more than one reuse?

There are new block 4 and block 5 boosters coming that have improvements and they have plenty of boosters around now. They might do multiple reuse as a proof of concept, but I don't think it will be the norm until block 5. The CRS-9/SES-10 booster is a museum piece, so if they reuse any block 3 boosters a 3rd time this one would be it.

[Star One]

They don't seem to have plans to reuse block 3 stages more than once anyway, but I don't see why this one is any worse than any others.

Surprising are they not suitable for any more than one reuse?

There are new block 4 and block 5 boosters coming that have improvements and they have plenty of boosters around now. They might do multiple reuse as a proof of concept, but I don't think it will be the norm until block 5. The CRS-9/SES-10 booster is a museum piece, so if they reuse any block 3 boosters a 3rd time this one would be it.

Block 5 has all the main upgrades with stuff like new grid find etc so we'll have to wait for that for multiple reuse then by the sounds of it as block 4 just appears to be an incremental upgrade.

[bdub217]

Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.

I was under the impression that being a (Block 3?) booster, it wasn't slated for reuse anyway.

I'm sure elon will want to send a flight proven booster to the Smithsonian one of these days.

[AncientU]

Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.

I was under the impression that being a (Block 3?) booster, it wasn't slated for reuse anyway.

I'm sure elon will want to send a flight proven booster to the Smithsonian one of these days.

He can send the first with ten reuses.

[abaddon]

There was a great shot of the second stage motoring away from the perspective of the 1st stage looking "up", and since there was no boostback burn it didn't rotate away for the duration of the shot.  Not sure if we've seen something like that before?  But in any case, it was very cool to see.

[dwheeler]

Even accounting for that, my gut tells me it's tilted too much. We shall see soon enough.

Drew some red lines eyeballing various vertical elements in the picture.

I got $1 says she's a-tiltin'

You are doing it wrong. Lines are NOT straight at all in this lens. Or do you think the ocean is curved?

Agree the lines are not straight in this lens. But I do think the earth is curved. 

[kirghizstan]

Even accounting for that, my gut tells me it's tilted too much. We shall see soon enough.

Drew some red lines eyeballing various vertical elements in the picture.

I got $1 says she's a-tiltin'

You are doing it wrong. Lines are NOT straight at all in this lens. Or do you think the ocean is curved?

Technically the ocean is curved

[Helodriver]

It did only appear like it was hovering above water before the transmission cut briefly, but keep in mind that the stage is coming in at an angle (see other drone ships landings shot from a distance), and a 3 engine landing burn will reach a bit further and impinge the ocean more. 

looks like there is a soot trail clear from one side of the asds to the other. will be interesting to see the non-live video release

I noticed that the soot trail runs from the edge of the ship inwards. I didn't think it ran from both sides but just from the right.

this is what i see

Dark marks on the right I think are shadow of the upper part of the booster and grid fins. It did leave a trail across the deck though.

https://gfycat.com/ThinSphericalAbalone

[StuffOfInterest]

I'm sure elon will want to send a flight proven booster to the Smithsonian one of these days.

You could do an entire SpaceX gallery of milestones, but the problem is where to put it.  The Udvar-Hazy is pretty full as it is.  Not sure where you would shoe-horn in an entire first stage.  Maybe they need an outdoor rocket garden?  Only problem then could be proximity to the Dulles runway.

[intrepidpursuit]

I'm sure elon will want to send a flight proven booster to the Smithsonian one of these days.

You could do an entire SpaceX gallery of milestones, but the problem is where to put it.  The Udvar-Hazy is pretty full as it is.  Not sure where you would shoe-horn in an entire first stage.  Maybe they need an outdoor rocket garden?  Only problem then could be proximity to the Dulles runway.

I think SpaceX deserves a hanger like Shuttle. It should have the a Falcon 1, the remains of the satellite that crashed through their shed, the GH1, the SpaceX cowboy, the wheel of cheese, and the first retired block 5 booster. And some space for the future. Someone would have to pay for all that though. Elon?