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#180
by
tyrred
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:32
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There appeared to be a big heaving of the deck right before the video signal dropped out which "could" account for the off center landing...
I saw a wave crashing at ships' edge just before signal drop off. Then my mind immediately re-interpreted as rocket exhaust plume impingement. Anxiously awaiting full footage to find out which brain is correct.
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#181
by
chrisking0997
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:33
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It did only appear like it was hovering above water before the transmission cut briefly, but keep in mind that the stage is coming in at an angle (see other drone ships landings shot from a distance), and a 3 engine landing burn will reach a bit further and impinge the ocean more. 
looks like there is a soot trail clear from one side of the asds to the other. will be interesting to see the non-live video release
I noticed that the soot trail runs from the edge of the ship inwards. I didn't think it ran from both sides but just from the right.
could be some cloud shadows in play there too
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#182
by
envy887
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:33
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There was talk of introducing titanium grid fins to make them more resilient during reentry. Has this happened yet? 🤔
No, not yet.
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#183
by
Lars-J
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:34
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There was talk of introducing titanium grid fins to make them more resilient during reentry. Has this happened yet?
According to some on Reddit, the next flight (2 days!) will have new grid fins.
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#184
by
dorkmo
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:34
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It did only appear like it was hovering above water before the transmission cut briefly, but keep in mind that the stage is coming in at an angle (see other drone ships landings shot from a distance), and a 3 engine landing burn will reach a bit further and impinge the ocean more. 
looks like there is a soot trail clear from one side of the asds to the other. will be interesting to see the non-live video release
I noticed that the soot trail runs from the edge of the ship inwards. I didn't think it ran from both sides but just from the right.
this is what i see
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#185
by
ZachS09
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:34
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Elon on Twitter:
Elon MuskVerified account @elonmusk
Rocket is extra toasty and hit the deck hard (used almost all of the emergency crush core), but otherwise good
Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.
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#186
by
Star One
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:34
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It did only appear like it was hovering above water before the transmission cut briefly, but keep in mind that the stage is coming in at an angle (see other drone ships landings shot from a distance), and a 3 engine landing burn will reach a bit further and impinge the ocean more. 
looks like there is a soot trail clear from one side of the asds to the other. will be interesting to see the non-live video release
I noticed that the soot trail runs from the edge of the ship inwards. I didn't think it ran from both sides but just from the right.
could be some cloud shadows in play there too
Be interesting to see the landing video for this one as it looks like it worked hard to get onto the deck of the drone ship.
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#187
by
Kabloona
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:35
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bank shot!
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#188
by
Rebel44
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:35
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It would be nice to get a drone footage (just like CRS-8 footage) of 3 engine landing burn
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#189
by
Lars-J
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:35
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It did only appear like it was hovering above water before the transmission cut briefly, but keep in mind that the stage is coming in at an angle (see other drone ships landings shot from a distance), and a 3 engine landing burn will reach a bit further and impinge the ocean more. 
looks like there is a soot trail clear from one side of the asds to the other. will be interesting to see the non-live video release
I noticed that the soot trail runs from the edge of the ship inwards. I didn't think it ran from both sides but just from the right.
this is what i see
Thrust gimbal can cause that. And shadows. It does not mean that the stage moved like that.
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#190
by
mlindner
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:35
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There was talk of introducing titanium grid fins to make them more resilient during reentry. Has this happened yet? 🤔
That happens in Block 5 (possibly we'll see it early in Block 4).
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#191
by
Star One
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:36
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It did only appear like it was hovering above water before the transmission cut briefly, but keep in mind that the stage is coming in at an angle (see other drone ships landings shot from a distance), and a 3 engine landing burn will reach a bit further and impinge the ocean more. 
looks like there is a soot trail clear from one side of the asds to the other. will be interesting to see the non-live video release
I noticed that the soot trail runs from the edge of the ship inwards. I didn't think it ran from both sides but just from the right.
this is what i see
Thrust gimbal can cause that. And shadows. It does not mean that the stage moved like that.
So it did a side shuffle so to speak to get onto the deck then?
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#192
by
ugordan
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:36
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It's LEANING.
That looks like barrel distortion from the wide-angle lens more than anything else. No doubt that was a hard landing, though.
Yes, but compare it to the sea horizon at the point the vehicle body and it meet, it really doesn't appear to be completely vertical. If it came in at a horizontal velocity as that off-ship water plume suggests, this might make it the most sporty landing yet that didn't result in vehicle loss.
Either way, good to see the stage make it back.
That line would only look vertical (if vertical), if it is in the middle of the image. Your assumption does not hold for things off-center in such a distorted wide angle lens.
Even accounting for that, my gut tells me it's tilted too much. We shall see soon enough.
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#193
by
clegg78
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:36
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Do we know if this was a 3 engine landing burn like they attempted before (and put a rocket into the ship doing it a few times)? Seemed a bit less elegant than some of the last drone ship landings which makes me wonder if that is the case.
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#194
by
Lars-J
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:37
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The good folks in west central Africa are about to get a interesting night light show as the 2nd stage re-starts.
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#195
by
intrepidpursuit
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:37
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Elon on Twitter:
Elon MuskVerified account @elonmusk
Rocket is extra toasty and hit the deck hard (used almost all of the emergency crush core), but otherwise good
Doesn't look like B1029 will be reused again.
Why? They don't reuse the legs and they seem to be replacing all the TPS anyway right now, so how much of it was used is irrelevant.
They don't seem to have plans to reuse block 3 stages more than once anyway, but I don't see why this one is any worse than any others.
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#196
by
whitelancer64
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:37
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Do we know if this was a 3 engine landing burn like they attempted before (and put a rocket into the ship doing it a few times)? Seemed a bit less elegant than some of the last drone ship landings which makes me wonder if that is the case.
Yes, a 3 engine landing burn.
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#197
by
jtrame
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:41
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Don't see any reason it couldn't be reused again. Depending on how much refurbishment they want to do. Too early to make that determination on our part.
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#198
by
Quagga
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:42
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My attempt at removing the distortion.
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#199
by
JimO
on 23 Jun, 2017 19:42
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