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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1400 on: 06/25/2018 05:46 PM »
Like Ed said:  "Design, R&D, final assembly, test, and launch is still in New Zealand."  Auckland and Mahia respectively.
Much like Antares, which is largely manufactured in Russia/Ukraine, but sees final assembly in Virginia.  If Antares is a "U.S." launch vehicle, isn't Electron a "New Zealand" rocket still? 

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My Toyota Camry was assembled in Kentucky. Is it an American car? Most people would say it's Japanese because it was designed and developed in Japan by a Japanese company.

Antares is an American launch vehicle even though many components are built overseas. Orion is an American spacecraft even though the service module is built in Europe.

Electron is an odd case, being developed in New Zealand by an American-based company. It's really a joint American-New Zealand project. Since it's being operated in New Zealand by an American company, it's going to be regulated by both countries.

So, why is this question so important? Shouldn't we be discussing the rocket instead of trivia?

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1401 on: 06/25/2018 09:23 PM »
It's in this section because that's what we decided. End of conversation. :)

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1402 on: 06/25/2018 11:49 PM »
Electron is an odd case, being developed in New Zealand by an American-based company. It's really a joint American-New Zealand project. Since it's being operated in New Zealand by an American company, it's going to be regulated by both countries.

So, why is this question so important? Shouldn't we be discussing the rocket instead of trivia?

Just to clear up any misconceptions:

Electron is an odd case, because it was developed in New Zealand by a New Zealand company using American assistance.  Peter Beck and his team had Electron designed and at least one prototype built long before the American-based company called "Rocketlab USA" existed.  For technology support, regulatory and a few other reasons the New Zealand company is now American-based.  That's what makes it "really a joint American-New Zealand project."

Why is this question so important?  Because it indicates to those of us outside of the continental United States that it IS indeed possible to develop a sucessful indigenous launch capability within a rapidly-developing regulatory minefield whilst highlighting both (a) the size and location of a few of the mines and (b) the path they used to navigate around them.
« Last Edit: 06/25/2018 11:55 PM by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1403 on: 07/11/2018 02:27 AM »
Yay!

Rocket Lab ✔ @RocketLab
We're thrilled to confirm we're building a US launch site for Electron. Four space ports are shortlisted: Cape Canaveral, Wallops Flight Facility, Pacific Spaceport Complex – Alaska and Vandenberg Air Force Base. Confirmed site to be announced in August. http://www.rocketlabusa.com/news/updates/rocket-lab-to-expand-launch-capability-with-us-launch-site/
4:53 PM - Jul 10, 2018

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1016787505436188672?s=19
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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1404 on: 07/11/2018 01:29 PM »
My best guess is that in August, Rocket Lab will choose to launch from Cape Canaveral.

Not sure which area on the Cape they'll use for LC-2.
"Liftoff of Falcon 9: the world's first reflight of an orbital-class rocket."

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1405 on: 08/05/2018 05:57 PM »
Peter Beck had another interview on TMRO space.  Link to video: 


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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1406 on: 08/05/2018 06:28 PM »
My best guess is that in August, Rocket Lab will choose to launch from Cape Canaveral.

Not sure which area on the Cape they'll use for LC-2.
Cape Canaveral already has an "LC 2".
http://www.robsv.com/cape/c1.html

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1407 on: 08/06/2018 12:46 AM »
Peter Beck had another interview on TMRO space.  Link to video: 


What I was most hoping to hear was a timeframe for the next launch.
Beck’s reticence to give one was only surpassed only by his smiling refusal to disclose Curie’s mystery green propellant.
We will just have to “stay tuned.”
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1408 on: 08/15/2018 07:39 AM »
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Yet another set of engines roll off the production line, looks like the team might beat our 100 engine target for this year.

https://twitter.com/peter_j_beck/status/1029617348234293254

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1409 on: 08/16/2018 01:08 AM »
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Yet another set of engines roll off the production line, looks like the team might beat our 100 engine target for this year.

https://twitter.com/peter_j_beck/status/1029617348234293254

Now all they have to do is launch them..

The way they've hung the flag from the roof looks exactly the same as the one at SpaceX.  Is this just something you guys just do in factories over there to remind you which country you're in - or should we read more into it?
« Last Edit: 08/16/2018 01:10 AM by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1410 on: 08/16/2018 02:17 AM »
The way they've hung the flag from the roof looks exactly the same as the one at SpaceX.  Is this just something you guys just do in factories over there to remind you which country you're in - or should we read more into it?
No accident that the flag is in the frame.  Clearly, Rocket Lab is reminding that it is a "U.S." company.  The reasons should be obvious to anyone who follows this business.

Displayed flags are common among the players.
https://hiveminer.com/Tags/icps%2Cula
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/atlas-v-arrives-at-spaceflight-operations-center
https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2016/06/23/us-navy-lockheed-martin-ready-launch-muos-5-satellite/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/33309742286
They're at the factories.  They're at the launch sites.  They're on the rockets.  They're on the flight suits. 

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Re: RocketLab Electron Smallsat Launcher
« Reply #1411 on: 08/16/2018 02:56 AM »
The way they've hung the flag from the roof looks exactly the same as the one at SpaceX.  Is this just something you guys just do in factories over there to remind you which country you're in - or should we read more into it?
No accident that the flag is in the frame.  Clearly, Rocket Lab is reminding that it is a "U.S." company.  The reasons should be obvious to anyone who follows this business.

Displayed flags are common among the players.
https://hiveminer.com/Tags/icps%2Cula
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/atlas-v-arrives-at-spaceflight-operations-center
https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2016/06/23/us-navy-lockheed-martin-ready-launch-muos-5-satellite/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/33309742286
They're at the factories.  They're at the launch sites.  They're on the rockets.  They're on the flight suits. 

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Not just common, but ubiquitous. Every US rocket factory has them...

Virgin Orbit:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXUScfcVQAA9m26.jpg

Blue Origin:
https://img.purch.com/w/660/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zcGFjZS5jb20vaW1hZ2VzL2kvMDAwLzA1My85OTMvb3JpZ2luYWwvYmx1ZS1vcmlnaW4uanBn

Orbital ATK/NGIS:
https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/hires/2014/antarescomme.jpg

ULA:
http://www.madeinalabama.com/assets/2014/07/Decatur_AtlasV-1200x1553.jpg

SpaceX:
https://media.glassdoor.com/l/61/41/44/79/production-floor.jpg

Virgin Galactic:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/technology/2017/06/01/New_VirginGalactic_0055-R_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqfJ6CG4nrs1Imk5-mMOX8ln6N3udfTYjqxsq-qyc4k7U.jpg?imwidth=450

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