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This is the new Russian early warning system replacing OKO-1.

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After years of delay, Russia plans to deploy this year the first satellite of its new constellation replacing the space component of the early warning system, Russian media reported. It will also double as an emergency communication satellite.
The satellite was developed for the military, so naturally little is known about it. Identified by disambiguation ‘product 14F142′, it is expected to be launched in the fourth quarter of 2014, according to Kommersant newspaper.
The spacecraft will be the first in a constellation, aimed to replace the old Oko-1 early warning system, which allows Russia survey countries possessing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles and detect possible launches.


Read more: http://www.defencetalk.com/doomsday-sputnik-russia-said-to-launch-new-missile-attack-warning-satellite-60239/#ixzz38JLFW823

http://www.satnews.com/story.php?number=1881356563
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #1 on: 07/23/2014 06:06 pm »
This is the new Russian early warning system replacing OKO-1.

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After years of delay, Russia plans to deploy this year the first satellite of its new constellation replacing the space component of the early warning system, Russian media reported. It will also double as an emergency communication satellite.
The satellite was developed for the military, so naturally little is known about it. Identified by disambiguation ‘product 14F142′, it is expected to be launched in the fourth quarter of 2014, according to Kommersant newspaper.
The spacecraft will be the first in a constellation, aimed to replace the old Oko-1 early warning system, which allows Russia survey countries possessing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles and detect possible launches.


Read more: http://www.defencetalk.com/doomsday-sputnik-russia-said-to-launch-new-missile-attack-warning-satellite-60239/#ixzz38JLFW823

http://www.satnews.com/story.php?number=1881356563
So that is this system (This is credit of Stan Black and is for providing additional info):
14К235 Tundra
Function: early warning & communications
Manufacturer: Central Science and Research Institute «Kometa» (payload), Rocket and Space Corporation «Energia» (platform)
Product: 14Ф142
Units: №1Л (2014), №3Л, №3Л, №4Л, №5Л, №6Л (2020)
Launch vehicle: Soyuz-2-1B with Fregat upper-stage
 - same environmental impact assessment hearing as 14К160

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Product 14F142
« Reply #2 on: 07/23/2014 08:08 pm »
Thanks for the additional info.

Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?
« Last Edit: 07/23/2014 08:10 pm by Star One »

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #3 on: 07/23/2014 08:13 pm »
Thanks for the additional info.
Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?

From what i have seen, the Tundra Orbit is like a Molniya Orbit but with a higher apogee to give an orbital period of about 24 hours.
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #4 on: 07/23/2014 08:19 pm »

Thanks for the additional info.
Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?

From what i have seen, the Tundra Orbit is like a Molniya Orbit but with a higher apogee to give an orbital period of about 24 hours.

Just had a look and it's not the fullest of articles but according to Wikipedia the only satellites currently using it are the Sirius Satellite Radio constellation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tundra_orbit

Wiser heads than mine can spot how accurate the article is on its details.


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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #5 on: 07/23/2014 09:21 pm »

Thanks for the additional info.
Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?

From what i have seen, the Tundra Orbit is like a Molniya Orbit but with a higher apogee to give an orbital period of about 24 hours.

Just had a look and it's not the fullest of articles but according to Wikipedia the only satellites currently using it are the Sirius Satellite Radio constellation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tundra_orbit

Wiser heads than mine can spot how accurate the article is on its details.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/fcc-dismisses-sirius-fm6-satellite-application.html

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #6 on: 07/23/2014 09:57 pm »
Thanks for the additional info.
Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?

From what i have seen, the Tundra Orbit is like a Molniya Orbit but with a higher apogee to give an orbital period of about 24 hours.
The following is a quote from the Alaska Aerospace Corporation which Owns and Operates the Kodiak Launch Complex. It is the only site in the USA most capable of launching into all high inclinations including the Molniya and  HEO Tundra orbits.

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KLC is the nation’s only high latitude full service spaceport. It features all indoor, all weather, processing and was designed specifically to provide optimal support for space launches to polar orbit, including circular and highly elliptical Molniya and Tundra orbits. KLC offers unrestricted down range launch azimuths ranging from 110° to 220°, and is the only U.S. facility that can launch high inclination (63.4°) missions without land over-flight and the requirement to resort to energy consuming dog leg flight segments.
LINK: http://www.akaerospace.com/klc_overview.html#

As for payloads that have used Tundra orbits:

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In June 2000, ILS successfully lofted the 8,400-pound (3,800-kg) Sirius FM-6 (Radiosat-1) atop a Proton-K booster from Baikonur, injecting it into a highly elliptical, high-inclination geosynchronous orbit, known as a “tundra orbit,” from where it provided satellite radio communications services across North America. The FM-2 (Radiosat-2) mission was launched in September 2000, followed by FM-3 (Radiosat-3) in November. All three were placed into tundra orbits, completing a circuit of Earth in about 23 hours and 56 minutes, or one solar “day,” whose characteristics cause the satellites to spend most of their time over a specific point on Earth, known as “apogee dwelling.” The effect was that the Sirius/Radiosat satellites follow a predictable pattern in the sky at the same time, day after day, and the shape of their trajectories described a closed figure-eight.

Tundra orbits—with an apogee of about 29,200 miles (46,990 km) and a perigee of about 14,900 miles (23,980 km)—provide high-latitude users with higher elevation angles than can be offered by a geostationary orbit. The three Sirius/Radiosats spend about 16 hours of each solar day over the continental United States, with at least one of them over the country at all times. Sirius FM-4 (Radiosat-4) was built as a flight-ready spare and in October 2012 was donated to the National Air and Space Museum for display in the James S. McDonnell Space Hangar of the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Washington, D.C., to “tell the story of modern satellite communications and its powerful impact on everyday life.”

An uprated satellite, Sirius FM-5 (Radiosat-5), was launched in June 2009. Unlike its predecessors, which occupied tundra orbits, the 12,830-pound (5,800-kg) Sirius FM-5 was the first to be placed into geostationary orbit. Whereas its predecessors carried traditional parabolic reflecting antennas, the new satellite was equipped with a 30-foot (9.1-meter) unfurlable reflector, and its geostationary location was reportedly chosen because it allowed for more consistent reception for fixed-location users. By the time Sirius FM-5 began operations in September 2009, contracts for Sirius FM-6 had already been signed.
LINK: http://www.americaspace.com/?p=44280
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #7 on: 07/23/2014 10:04 pm »

Thanks for the additional info.
Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?

From what i have seen, the Tundra Orbit is like a Molniya Orbit but with a higher apogee to give an orbital period of about 24 hours.

Just had a look and it's not the fullest of articles but according to Wikipedia the only satellites currently using it are the Sirius Satellite Radio constellation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tundra_orbit

Wiser heads than mine can spot how accurate the article is on its details.

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/fcc-dismisses-sirius-fm6-satellite-application.html
Use my Preceding post on Tundra orbits. They are the HEO Polar orbital equivalent of GSO. I have bolded the specific parameters that define a Tundra orbit.
« Last Edit: 07/24/2014 12:32 pm by russianhalo117 »

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #8 on: 01/08/2015 06:23 pm »
This is the new Russian early warning system replacing OKO-1.

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After years of delay, Russia plans to deploy this year the first satellite of its new constellation replacing the space component of the early warning system, Russian media reported. It will also double as an emergency communication satellite.
The satellite was developed for the military, so naturally little is known about it. Identified by disambiguation ‘product 14F142′, it is expected to be launched in the fourth quarter of 2014, according to Kommersant newspaper.
The spacecraft will be the first in a constellation, aimed to replace the old Oko-1 early warning system, which allows Russia survey countries possessing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles and detect possible launches.


Read more: http://www.defencetalk.com/doomsday-sputnik-russia-said-to-launch-new-missile-attack-warning-satellite-60239/#ixzz38JLFW823

http://www.satnews.com/story.php?number=1881356563
So that is this system (This is credit of Stan Black and is for providing additional info):
14К235 Tundra
Function: early warning & communications
Manufacturer: Central Science and Research Institute «Kometa» (payload), Rocket and Space Corporation «Energia» (platform)
Product: 14Ф142
Units: №1Л (2014), №3Л, №3Л, №4Л, №5Л, №6Л (2020)
Launch vehicle: Soyuz-2-1B with Fregat upper-stage
 - same environmental impact assessment hearing as 14К160

Should be 14К032 to cover the Tundra. There is a connection with 14К235, but that seems to cover a rocket configuration? Another odd thing is that one component under article 14В18 was tested on the first Lotos Kosmos-2455?

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #9 on: 01/08/2015 07:06 pm »
Thanks for the additional info.
Is the Tundra orbit it's going to use as mentioned in the second article, an unusual one, can't say I've heard of the term before?

From what i have seen, the Tundra Orbit is like a Molniya Orbit but with a higher apogee to give an orbital period of about 24 hours.
The following is a quote from the Alaska Aerospace Corporation which Owns and Operates the Kodiak Launch Complex. It is the only site in the USA most capable of launching into all high inclinations including the Molniya and  HEO Tundra orbits.

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KLC is the nation’s only high latitude full service spaceport. It features all indoor, all weather, processing and was designed specifically to provide optimal support for space launches to polar orbit, including circular and highly elliptical Molniya and Tundra orbits. KLC offers unrestricted down range launch azimuths ranging from 110° to 220°, and is the only U.S. facility that can launch high inclination (63.4°) missions without land over-flight and the requirement to resort to energy consuming dog leg flight segments.
LINK: http://www.akaerospace.com/klc_overview.html#

As for payloads that have used Tundra orbits:

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In June 2000, ILS successfully lofted the 8,400-pound (3,800-kg) Sirius FM-6 (Radiosat-1) atop a Proton-K booster from Baikonur, injecting it into a highly elliptical, high-inclination geosynchronous orbit, known as a “tundra orbit,” from where it provided satellite radio communications services across North America. The FM-2 (Radiosat-2) mission was launched in September 2000, followed by FM-3 (Radiosat-3) in November. All three were placed into tundra orbits, completing a circuit of Earth in about 23 hours and 56 minutes, or one solar “day,” whose characteristics cause the satellites to spend most of their time over a specific point on Earth, known as “apogee dwelling.” The effect was that the Sirius/Radiosat satellites follow a predictable pattern in the sky at the same time, day after day, and the shape of their trajectories described a closed figure-eight.

Tundra orbits—with an apogee of about 29,200 miles (46,990 km) and a perigee of about 14,900 miles (23,980 km)—provide high-latitude users with higher elevation angles than can be offered by a geostationary orbit. The three Sirius/Radiosats spend about 16 hours of each solar day over the continental United States, with at least one of them over the country at all times. Sirius FM-4 (Radiosat-4) was built as a flight-ready spare and in October 2012 was donated to the National Air and Space Museum for display in the James S. McDonnell Space Hangar of the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Washington, D.C., to “tell the story of modern satellite communications and its powerful impact on everyday life.”

An uprated satellite, Sirius FM-5 (Radiosat-5), was launched in June 2009. Unlike its predecessors, which occupied tundra orbits, the 12,830-pound (5,800-kg) Sirius FM-5 was the first to be placed into geostationary orbit. Whereas its predecessors carried traditional parabolic reflecting antennas, the new satellite was equipped with a 30-foot (9.1-meter) unfurlable reflector, and its geostationary location was reportedly chosen because it allowed for more consistent reception for fixed-location users. By the time Sirius FM-5 began operations in September 2009, contracts for Sirius FM-6 had already been signed.
LINK: http://www.americaspace.com/?p=44280

23 hours 56 minutes is not a solar day.  It is a sidereal day.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidereal_time  The difference between solar and sidereal days is mentioned in the Wikipedia article on Tundra orbits linked by Star One: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tundra_orbit.  Maybe I'm being overly pedantic, but the difference is important.

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Re: Product 14F142
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #11 on: 03/14/2015 09:15 am »
Came across this reference:-
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15.Проведение дополнительных и сертификационных испытаний ЭРИ отечественного и иностранного производства, предназначенных для комплектования радиоэлектронной аппаратуры изделия 14Ф142 (СЧ ОКР «АСС-ЭС»).
Should this programme be referred to as ASS?
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #12 on: 03/14/2015 09:17 pm »
Contract №Р2-02-02 from 15th March 2002.

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #13 on: 04/03/2015 10:43 am »
http://tass.ru/kosmos/1875093

TASS quotes a Ministry of Defense official as saying that the first launch of Russia's next-generation early warning satellite is now scheduled for the second half of this year. The satellite will be launched by a Soyuz type rocket. According to the spokesman "the Angara rocket will not be used for this launch because its next launch is planned for 2016". That would seem like an indication that future satellites of this type will be launched by Angara, but are they light enough to be launched by Angara 1.2. or heavy enough to justify the use of Angara-A5? Probably not.

Among the novelties mentioned by the official are a longer active on-orbit lifetime and the use of new home-built electronics. He also said "one such new satellite is capable of replacing 5 to 6 satellites of the previous generation".

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #14 on: 04/03/2015 06:46 pm »
I wonder how many then they will need for an effective constellation.

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #15 on: 04/03/2015 08:42 pm »
I wonder how many then they will need for an effective constellation.
According to Wiki (in Russian), USSR had 9 satellites in Molniya orbit (although it notes that this was redundant configuration, the minimum required for 24 hr coverage is 4 sats), and one satellite in GSO.
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #16 on: 04/17/2015 03:26 pm »
What is bothering me is the connection to 14С022. The 14Ф142 and 14C022 are mentioned in the same paragraphs in Energia’s annual reports.
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SW component on manufacture of articles 14С022, 14Ф142, 14С021 and component parts for article 11С144 № 2L, 3L, 4L, 5L, 6L

14С022 features SPD-M100 electric propulsion from Fakel, and BOKZ-M star trackers. Sounds like an upper stage, so why also a Fregat? Energia used electric propulsion for the delivery of Egyptsat-2.

Fregat № 1033 has apparently been manufactured for Tundra, but that is according to the N.K. forum. Any other source of information?

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/payment-info-and-target-of-order.html?reestrNumber=0373100004813000249

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #17 on: 09/18/2015 02:11 pm »
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Разработка и выпуск заключения ГК на СУ РН 14А14-1б № 43м134с КА «ЕКС» №1
Проведение проверочных баллистических расчетов РН 14А14 этапа 1б с изд. 14Ф142
http://www.samspace.ru/zakupki/plany_zakupok/
http://www.samspace.ru/upload/iblock/359/План%20закупки%20АО%20«РКЦ%20«Прогресс»%20(2015г.).xlsx

Rocket 43/134 is possibly № 76012227 based on observations about how the two numbers correlate.
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum13/topic304/message1400282/#message1400282
« Last Edit: 09/18/2015 02:22 pm by Stan Black »

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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #18 on: 11/05/2015 03:12 pm »
anik's list on NK shows the launch of the 1st satellite of the EKS system as on November 17 - again, I can't nail down the source.
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Re: Product 14F142
« Reply #19 on: 11/05/2015 08:01 pm »

anik's list on NK shows the launch of the 1st satellite of the EKS system as on November 17 - again, I can't nail down the source.

As mentioned in the other thread Anik is probably the source.

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