Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 - Iridium NEXT Flight 1 DISCUSSION (Jan. 14 2017)  (Read 336331 times)

Offline Comga

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So, any chance the static fire will happen today?
Apparently the FAA is dragging their feet. That might be the hold up.
Updates on the static firing are in L2.
The statement about the FAA is in the public UPDATES thread but is not linked to the static firing.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Yeah, you can bet the FAA are watching this Static Fire like hawks. A bit strange as I was told the FAA has no say in mission success.


FAA is only concerned about 3rd parties.  They don't care if the launch isn't successful, as long as it doesn't harm people or property.

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Weather not looking good for the 8th at Vandenburg


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« Last Edit: 01/03/2017 05:07 PM by Jim »

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Yeah, you can bet the FAA are watching this Static Fire like hawks. A bit strange as I was told the FAA has no say in mission success.

FAA is only concerned about 3rd parties.  They don't care if the launch isn't successful, as long as it doesn't harm people or property.

My interpretation is that the FAA is not delaying the static firing.
That doesn't contradict Chris' statement that they are likely watching.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Static fire moved to Wednesday, as reported on Reddit.

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Static fire moved to Wednesday, as reported on Reddit.

Actually, reddit was linking to Chris' post in the update thread...

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Static fire moved to Wednesday, as reported on Reddit.

Actually, reddit was linking to Chris' post in the update thread...
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So, any chance the static fire will happen today?
Apparently the FAA is dragging their feet. That might be the hold up.

There shouldn't be any connection between the FAA's approval of the anomaly report and the Static Fire for this mission.  SpaceX has clearly gotten FAA approval/permission for the ground handling aspects of the launch license because otherwise they couldn't even bring the rocket hardware onto the launch site property.  I suppose that temporary approval could include restrictions on hazardous operations, but I would expect any such restrictions to come from Range Safety as opposed to the FAA.  Not really their thing.
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Any word on the landing location for the 1st stage? 
"Look at that! If anybody ever said, "you'll be sitting in a spacecraft naked with a 134-pound backpack on your knees charging it", I'd have said "Aw, get serious". - John Young - Apollo-16

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Any word on the landing location for the 1st stage? 
JRTI is the approved plan. Currently waiting on the issuance of the Notice to Mariners and NOTAM for the barge landing and alternates.

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What makes IRIDIUM Flight 1 a barge landing, while Flights 2 and 3 are listed as RTLS?

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What makes IRIDIUM Flight 1 a barge landing, while Flights 2 and 3 are listed as RTLS?

Don't pay any attention to what's listed on the manifest thread now for those Iridium booster returns.  They'll get updated when we know what's actually going to happen.

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Got it, thanks. We could ask Starhawk to mark them blank in the manifest if their landings are uncertain.

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Aren't all the Iridium flights going to be either near shore barge landings, or pad landings? I thought they weren't doing any offshore landings.

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Aren't all the Iridium flights going to be either near shore barge landings, or pad landings? I thought they weren't doing any offshore landings.
Barge landings until final approval for pad landings is received.

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Aren't all the Iridium flights going to be either near shore barge landings, or pad landings? I thought they weren't doing any offshore landings.
Barge landings until final approval for pad landings is received.

Didn't the FAA already say that they are good to go with the RTLS landings? The just need the actual launch license I guess.
Here is the Finding of No Significant Impact fore the Falcon 9 landings on the pad: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/licenses_permits/media/ea_fonsi_f9_boostback_vafb.pdf

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Aren't all the Iridium flights going to be either near shore barge landings, or pad landings? I thought they weren't doing any offshore landings.
Barge landings until final approval for pad landings is received.

Didn't the FAA already say that they are good to go with the RTLS landings? The just need the actual launch license I guess.
Here is the Finding of No Significant Impact fore the Falcon 9 landings on the pad: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/licenses_permits/media/ea_fonsi_f9_boostback_vafb.pdf
AFAIK DoD has to sign off on landings at military installations and I can find only evidence of approval at CCAFS at this time.

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Matt Desch (Iridium CEO) confirmed yesterday on Twitter that the launch window will be instantaneous (see below).
Not sure if it was obvious or not, so posting in the discussion thread.

Na45597459: @IridiumBoss is Sunday's launch instantaneous or does it have a window?
IridiumBoss: @Na45597459 Instantaneous.  Need to launch to a specific plane (#6) and that's when it's overhead that day.
https://twitter.com/iridiumboss/status/816018732262817793

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Matt Desch (Iridium CEO) confirmed yesterday on Twitter that the launch window will be instantaneous (see below).
Not sure if it was obvious or not, so posting in the discussion thread.

Na45597459: @IridiumBoss is Sunday's launch instantaneous or does it have a window?
IridiumBoss: @Na45597459 Instantaneous.  Need to launch to a specific plane (#6) and that's when it's overhead that day.
https://twitter.com/iridiumboss/status/816018732262817793

So F9 can't do yaw steering like Atlas V when launched out-of-plane?

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Matt Desch (Iridium CEO) confirmed yesterday on Twitter that the launch window will be instantaneous (see below).
Not sure if it was obvious or not, so posting in the discussion thread.

Na45597459: @IridiumBoss is Sunday's launch instantaneous or does it have a window?
IridiumBoss: @Na45597459 Instantaneous.  Need to launch to a specific plane (#6) and that's when it's overhead that day.
https://twitter.com/iridiumboss/status/816018732262817793

So F9 can't do yaw steering like Atlas V when launched out-of-plane?

They haven't demonstrated it

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