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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #120 on: 02/10/2021 12:55 am »
i think both ISRO and CNSA were/are using low res. camera
I hope the quality of the Medium Res Camera (MRC) of CNSA is performing better in orbit. ISRO looks better at the moment. Tianwen-1's camera looks a little bit fuzzy.

Here is a nice illustration of the location of the science payloads onboard Tianwen-1 I took from an article from "Info Shymkent": https://www.shymkent.info/2021/02/08/first-spacecrafts-from-arabia-and-china-arrive-at-red-planet/

You can find the MRC on the right illustration next to the High-Res Camera (HRC).

Did you make a similar graphic for the rover?
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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #121 on: 02/10/2021 12:58 am »
Somewhere I read that the Mars photo we have seen was from a small monitoring camera, not the science cameras. I can't guarantee that but it makes sense in that there would be no point flying a mediocre science camera to Mars.

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #122 on: 02/10/2021 07:25 am »
Currently planned trajectory (link):



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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #123 on: 02/10/2021 07:36 am »

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #124 on: 02/10/2021 07:46 am »

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #125 on: 02/10/2021 08:53 am »
Two hours to MOI burn.

https://weibo.com/5616492130/K1iC7xUFk?from=page_1005055616492130_profile&wvr=6&mod=weibotime&type=comment#_rnd1612950710124
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China航天
50分钟前
天问一号探测器将于O今晚20时前后 ,实施近火制动, 进入火星轨道。截至今日17时00分, 天问一号距离火星只有约5万公里。
China Aerospace
50 minutes ago
The Tianwen-1 probe will implement near-fire braking around 20 o'clock tonight and enter Mars orbit. As of 17:00 today, Tianwen-1 is only about 50,000 kilometers away from Mars.
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #126 on: 02/10/2021 08:57 am »
Currently planned trajectory (link):



Offline eeergo

Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #127 on: 02/10/2021 09:10 am »
Orbit parameters, and comparison with yesterday's Emirati MOI:

https://twitter.com/ea4gpz/status/1359433357759766530

Burn expected to last just under 15 minutes.
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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #128 on: 02/10/2021 09:13 am »
Two hours to MOI burn.

https://weibo.com/5616492130/K1iC7xUFk?from=page_1005055616492130_profile&wvr=6&mod=weibotime&type=comment#_rnd1612950710124
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China航天
50分钟前
天问一号探测器将于O今晚20时前后 ,实施近火制动, 进入火星轨道。截至今日17时00分, 天问一号距离火星只有约5万公里。
China Aerospace
50 minutes ago
The Tianwen-1 probe will implement near-fire braking around 20 o'clock tonight and enter Mars orbit. As of 17:00 today, Tianwen-1 is only about 50,000 kilometers away from Mars.
Based on the info on this site, and assuming that all quoted times are UTC+8, the timeline for the Mars orbit insertion burn of the Tianwen-1 probe is

11:52:30 UTC start of Mars orbit insertion burn
12:02:42 UTC enter communication blackout
12:08:12 UTC end of Mars orbit insertion burn
12:37:02 UTC midst of communication blackout
12:58:24 UTC resume communication, signal should arrive on Earth 641 seconds later, thus outcome of Mars orbit insertion burn will only be known after 13h UTC
« Last Edit: 02/10/2021 09:15 am by hoku »

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #129 on: 02/10/2021 11:04 am »
Doppler shift indicates the burn has started.

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #130 on: 02/10/2021 11:24 am »
Tianwen-1 live from Mars at 20m Antenna Bochum-Observatory


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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #132 on: 02/10/2021 11:48 am »
Carrier has reappeared!

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #133 on: 02/10/2021 12:01 pm »
If I'm reading this correctly, Tianwen1 is almost certainly in Mars orbit as it reappeared from behind the planet at the expected time post-orbit insertion.  But the details of the orbit are still forthcoming.  So... that's arrival success... yes?

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #134 on: 02/10/2021 12:01 pm »
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4603158003717144

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刚刚,中国首次火星探测任务天问一号探测器实施近火捕获制动,环绕器3000N轨控发动机点火工作约15分钟,探测器顺利进入环火轨道,成为#我国第一颗人造火星卫星#,实现“绕、着,巡”第一步“绕”的目标,环绕火星获得成功!中国航天加油!(总台央视记者崔霞 王世玉 李宁 李厦 陶嘉树 黄宝池 吴天白)
Just now, China’s first Mars exploration mission, the Tianwen-1 probe, implemented the near-Mars capture brake. The 3000N orbital control engine of the orbiter ignited for about 15 minutes. The probe successfully entered the circular fire orbit and became my country’s first artificial Mars satellite. "Go around, around, patrol" The first step of "around" the goal, orbiting Mars is a success! Come on, China Aerospace! (CCTV reporter Cui Xia Wang Shiyu Li Ning Li Xia Tao Jiashu Huang Baochi Wu Tianbai)
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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #135 on: 02/10/2021 12:03 pm »
https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1359486876495663109?s=20

#BREAKING China's first Mars probe Tianwen-1 has successfully entered the orbit of the red planet after a crucial “brake” to decelerate and be captured by Mars gravity, according to #CNSA.

Offline eeergo

Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #136 on: 02/10/2021 12:04 pm »
Xinhua confirms!

Congratulations China on another huge first!

2/3

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1359487746008440835
-DaviD-

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #137 on: 02/10/2021 12:19 pm »
-DaviD-

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #138 on: 02/10/2021 01:27 pm »
The inclination change is interesting. It'll probably be pretty cheap in term of delta-v an apogee in a eccentric orbit, but why not insert over the poles so to speak? (Reminds me of when I screw up my approch in Kerbal...)

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Re: Tianwen-1: Chinese 2020 Mars orbiter and rover
« Reply #139 on: 02/10/2021 03:17 pm »
The inclination change is interesting. It'll probably be pretty cheap in term of delta-v an apogee in a eccentric orbit, but why not insert over the poles so to speak? (Reminds me of when I screw up my approch in Kerbal...)

Haven't been able to find a clear rationale, but Mars Express did something similar in 2003:

http://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Mars_Express/Mars_Express_scheduled_orbit_change
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