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SCRUB: SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 - ORBCOMM OG2 - LAUNCH ATTEMPT 2 UPDATES
by
Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 14:16
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#1
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 16:31
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Still nothing from SpaceX - for 17 hours now.
They will have to begin fuelling in around 90 minutes time to make this window.
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#2
by
alk3997
on 21 Jun, 2014 16:57
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#3
by
Robotbeat
on 21 Jun, 2014 17:06
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OG2 Mission 1 Update: June 21, 2014
We are a go for launching OG2 Mission 1 today at 5:46 pm ET. We will continue to post updates as we get closer to launch.
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#4
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:11
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Should be into fuelling now. Still nothing from SpaceX.
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#5
by
zediir
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:13
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Stephen Clark @StephenClark1 7m
SpaceX spox confirms #Falcon9 launch attempt today.
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#6
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Carl G
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:31
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Tanking underway.
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#7
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Geron
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:48
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How do u know tanking underway?
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#8
by
Avariel
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:52
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From the SpaceX Webcast site:
Go for Launch Attempt Today
SpaceX and ORBCOMM are a go for launch today at 5:46 pm ET from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. There will not be a live webcast for this launch attempt, but we will provide updates as available.
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#9
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Jarnis
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:53
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"SpaceX and ORBCOMM are a go for launch today at 5:46 pm ET from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.
There will not be a live webcast for this launch attempt, but we will provide updates as available."
http://www.spacex.com/webcast/Doh.
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#10
by
Prober
on 21 Jun, 2014 18:56
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any cape cams to watch?
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#11
by
rdale
on 21 Jun, 2014 19:03
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Some SpaceX updates were offered yesterday from the air support units on the KSC scanner feed at Broadcastify.com - might be worth a listen.
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#12
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 19:09
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Ok, I know this is an update thread, but we're lacking the main ingredient of a frakking webcast.
If you can keep an ear on that one Rob.
Everyone, we need to be careful with twitter. Some tweets may not be accurate. Be careful with that. Aim for observers at the launch site, etc.
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#13
by
Kabloona
on 21 Jun, 2014 19:12
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Weather currently RED:
Spaceflight101 LIVE @S101_Live
Now three weather rules are RED - cumulus clouds, lightning, surface electric field. #OG2
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#14
by
Dave G
on 21 Jun, 2014 19:20
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#15
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Sean Lynch
on 21 Jun, 2014 19:33
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#16
by
Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 20:00
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#17
by
rdale
on 21 Jun, 2014 20:07
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That set of storms will be gone, but it may take a bit to reduce cloud cover. And more storms may pop at any time.
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#18
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Sean Lynch
on 21 Jun, 2014 20:17
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From a few moments ago...still too close for comfort, understand now why no webcast...
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#19
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 20:32
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L-75 mins.
Some L2 coverage....they've loaded the vehicle and still on track. Starting to understand why they aren't webcasting, but I'm not saying anything in the open forum.
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#20
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 20:45
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Per L2, T-0 moving to the end of the window, due to weather.
*Remember, this is a live update thread still*
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#21
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:03
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Target is 18:39 Eastern. Vehicle is healthy.
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#22
by
chas
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:05
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At Cocoa Beach at this time. We have lost electricity due to the south moving storms.
Lighting to the south now. Hope the Cape fared better. Heading to Port Caneveral soon.
Current rader showsoderste showers at CCAFS @1705L
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#23
by
sdsds
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:12
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#24
by
chas
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:17
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As of 1715 local
Lighting strikes. Moving south
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#25
by
chas
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:28
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Now 1725 local. Moderate showers to the north of CCAFS moving south.... Slowly. It's going to be close IMHO.
Still hoping.... And just got power back in Cocoa Beach. A good omen?
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#26
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:30
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L-70 minutes. It's all about the weather right now.
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#27
by
Ronpur50
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:48
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#28
by
Kabloona
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:54
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From Twitter:
Spaceflight101 LIVE @S101_Live
#OG2 Launch Window now open, still four RED weather criteria. #Falcon9 launch vehicle appears to be in good shape. T-0 target is 22:39 UTC.
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#29
by
deruch
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:55
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MyNews 13 will be showing it Live on the TV, not webcast (per chat). They said they will upload video of it to their website post launch though.
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#30
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Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 21:57
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Site getting busy. Removing guests shortly.
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#31
by
chas
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:00
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1756L showers about 15 miles to the north have only moved about 5-10 miles south in 30 minutes.
It's going to be close. I'm a little less optimistic unfortunately but still going up to port Canaveral now.... With an umbrella.
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#32
by
Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:04
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Close to a scrub. Not called yet.
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#33
by
Dave G
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:05
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#34
by
Jester
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:10
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#35
by
DeanG1967
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:11
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#36
by
paycom
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:15
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#37
by
Bob Shaw
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:18
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Anyone know what direction the Port Canaveral webcam is pointing (other than generally seaward)?
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#38
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:18
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Spaceflight101 LIVE @S101_Live
New weather systems starting to build up to the south-west while the old storms still linger near the Cape. Observed RED. #OG2
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#39
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Steven Pietrobon
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:21
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Here's a webcam that says it is at Cape Canaveral looking to the sea.
http://www.twopalms.com/The weather looks clear from here.
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#40
by
Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:25
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SCRUB!
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#41
by
Chris Bergin
on 21 Jun, 2014 22:47
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Opening the forum back up to guests as we seem pretty good with the demand.
So waiting for a new date. Wasn't the vehicle, was lightning and other factors per L2's coverage.
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#42
by
Akhenaten
on 21 Jun, 2014 23:01
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Clearly the only possible decision with the weather stacking up. As it is , SpaceX went right to the wire ( 13 minutes before window closure= 13 minutes from polling!. Disappointing- but had they launched and been struck by lightning/storms/or lost it due to poor visibility, they would have had no rational explanation and their reputation would have been wrecked.
Equally, the lack of a webcast was perfectly reasonable as they were half expecting this result, and the SpaceX Team who usually figure in such webcasts were doubtless highly stressed, and fully pre-occupied with the job in hand. Mr Insprucker, in particular, I imagine, had his hands full....
As a Commercial operation they have a perfect right to use publicity as they see fit, as long as it is not mendacious. Any sensible cardplayer plays the game as best he can, and webcasts are only one card in a pack.
With a public /NASA launch the situation is different, but NASA themselves do not always offer
live webcasts, nor does Arianespace- although near real time updates are now standard practice...
As has been pointed out, every SpaceX launch carries more innovation and "envelope stretching" than any other launch service so that their 9 launches- especially the Falcon 9v1.1 is virtually a new beast, evloving rapidly.
As for the idea that SpaceX is on the breadline this seems odd in view of Mr Musk's known personal wealth of c $3 Billions , stated commitments to go to Mars, and his prospects with Tesla and Solarcity.
Some estimates ( eg Forbes) have put his total wealth and assets into the order of $100billions +
Meanwhile Grasshopper and F9R Dev1 are moving towards recoverability within 6-12 months and it is still possible that he will refly a rocket with minimal refurbishment by autumn 2015- 3 years after the first Grasshopper "hopped", as he hoped at the time( Sep 2012)
Remember, if he simply wanted to make a profit by running a space trucking business, he would not be bothering with Grasshopper, Dragon or Mars.
He is playing for the longterm, and , if re-usability does take a decade- he is still a young man...
SpaceX is known for rapid uptake of new ideas; that which usual channels do in 5 years, Musk does in weeks.
At this stage, Elon wins unless he suffers a launch disaster. So far, so good.
The only thing that could really damage him would be a launch disaster caused by proven recklessness. If tonight proves one thing, he is far more cautious than his longterm aspirations so boldly stated would suggest.
We really should wish him well, if we want to see radical change in spaceflight.
As Gorbachev once said of Perestroika: "If not me, who? If not now, when?
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#43
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Steven Pietrobon
on 21 Jun, 2014 23:09
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From the SpaceX website
"Launch Update
Today's ORBCOMM launch attempt has been scrubbed due to weather. Currently reviewing next available launch opportunities."
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#44
by
A12
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:02
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From Orbcomm web site (
http://www.orbcomm.com/networks/og2-launch):
OG2 Mission 1 Update: June 21, 2014
Today's OG2 Mission 1 launch attempt has been scrubbed due to weather concerns. Both Falcon 9 and the ORBCOMM satellites are safe. We are targeting launch for tomorrow, Sunday, June 22 at 5:30 pm ET.
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#45
by
mlindner
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:15
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From Orbcomm web site (http://www.orbcomm.com/networks/og2-launch):
OG2 Mission 1 Update: June 21, 2014
Today's OG2 Mission 1 launch attempt has been scrubbed due to weather concerns. Both Falcon 9 and the ORBCOMM satellites are safe. We are targeting launch for tomorrow, Sunday, June 22 at 5:30 pm ET.
What's weather like tomorrow there?
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#46
by
Darga
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:19
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#47
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Bob Shaw
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:25
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It'd be good to get a list of local public webcams which point in the right direction, but it really needs feet on the ground. I really have no idea of what's looking in which direction, but a local might know. We may only get a bright dot crossing the field of view, but that's better than nowt.
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#48
by
sdsds
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:30
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#49
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Chris Bergin
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:31
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Per L2 it's a FOUR hour launch window tomorrow. Window opens at 5:24 pm Eastern.
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#50
by
rdale
on 22 Jun, 2014 01:34
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Tomorrow's weather should be identical if not a little worse, but as you can see currently things quiet down a lot in the evening. That 9pm window end should be good.
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#51
by
Chris Bergin
on 22 Jun, 2014 13:38
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