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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #720 on: 08/04/2016 05:21 pm »
Interesting.  Clear for one kilometer around, but it can only fly up to 80' (~25m) above the ground?  And here I thought the new lease with the city of MacGregor said they couldn't go flying around at all.
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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #721 on: 08/04/2016 05:44 pm »
Interesting.  Clear for one kilometer around, but it can only fly up to 80' (~25m) above the ground?  And here I thought the new lease with the city of MacGregor said they couldn't go flying around at all.
A lease with the city and an FAA permit would not be the same things, a city ordinance could still deny things allowed in the FAA permit.  I would imagine SpaceX negotiated something similar with the city though.

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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #722 on: 08/04/2016 07:14 pm »
Interesting.  Clear for one kilometer around, but it can only fly up to 80' (~25m) above the ground?  And here I thought the new lease with the city of MacGregor said they couldn't go flying around at all.
A lease with the city and an FAA permit would not be the same things, a city ordinance could still deny things allowed in the FAA permit.  I would imagine SpaceX negotiated something similar with the city though.

Here's what was reported about the agreement with the city.

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In addition, the actual launching of any vehicle into the atmosphere or into space is specifically prohibited at the McGregor facility.

http://www.kwtx.com/content/news/McGregor--City-modifies-SpaceX-rocket-testing-rules-378857891.html

However, we've seen that the press is not always entirely accurate, so maybe there's an allowance for low-altitude Dragonfly hops.
« Last Edit: 08/04/2016 07:18 pm by Kabloona »

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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #723 on: 08/04/2016 08:28 pm »
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... actual launching of any vehicle into the atmosphere or into space ...
is interpreted as flying outside the property boundaries.
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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #724 on: 08/04/2016 09:37 pm »
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... actual launching of any vehicle into the atmosphere or into space ...
is interpreted as flying outside the property boundaries.

Flight outside the property boundaries would never be allowed anyway by FAA, so I don't think that's what the clause meant. It seems more likely directed at Grasshopper/F9RDev flights. There were talks of moving F9RDev flights to Spaceport America before SpaceX mothballed the program.
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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #725 on: 08/05/2016 01:42 am »
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In addition, the actual launching of any vehicle into the atmosphere or into space is specifically prohibited at the McGregor facility.

There'll probably be some definitional sections somewhere that have a bearing on this. After all, on the face of it 'any vehicle' prohibits getting to and from the site by helicopter. Also, no more drone camera shots! And what does 'into the atmosphere' mean? Off the ground or above a certain height?

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Re: SpaceX DragonFly Discussion Thread
« Reply #726 on: 10/02/2016 04:55 pm »
Any updates on DragonFly testing?  Yes BIG Mars plans and RTF aside, should there be some concern with the silence?
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