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#40
by
asdert
on 22 May, 2015 15:39
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The Japanese back-up of Brightman will NOT fly.
So he was no back-up.
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#41
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 22 May, 2015 16:27
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So he was no back-up.
No, he isn't. We know this from the very beginning. He is a man who paid Roscosmos to have a complete cosmonaut training.
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#42
by
fgonella
on 22 May, 2015 16:49
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Isn't it a waste to have a two seater Soyuz? Couldn't they fly the backup for Volkov or Mogensen instead, or even one of the 2014 ISS crew (who should still "remember" the training)?
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#43
by
ras391
on 22 May, 2015 18:35
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When was the information given that the backup is only completing and has paid for only cosmonaut training?
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#44
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 22 May, 2015 18:55
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When was the information given that the backup is only completing and has paid for only cosmonaut training?
1. It is written in this article :
http://rbth.com/news/2015/05/14/sarah_brightman_backup_pilot_continuing_training_for_tourist_spaceflight_45996.html2. It's quite logical. If the Japanese guy wanted to fly, he would have paid about 50M$ for it. One can not imagine that Brightman paid 50M$ to Roscosmos to allow someone else to fly ! The word "backup" has no sense for tourism. If something prevents me to leave on holyday, someone will not take my hotel bedroom ! The Japanese did not paid for a spaceflight, so there is no reason for Roscosmos to give him a Soyuz seat.
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#45
by
Targeteer
on 23 May, 2015 00:05
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Considering 2 supply vehicles have failed to reach ISS, flying up as much cargo as possible instead of another person would seem to be the most sensible, if not flashy, decision.`The Russian desire/need to garner as much income as possible will likely trump doing the sensible thing, in my humble opinion
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#46
by
ras391
on 23 May, 2015 00:56
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If I understand correctly, until about a week ago, no one knew he only paid for training?
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#47
by
QuantumG
on 23 May, 2015 01:00
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If I understand correctly, until about a week ago, no one knew he only paid for training?
There isn't really a price. You start the process by paying some money, then you pay some more money, then maybe you get invited to Russia, where you pay some money, and maybe you come back again in a few months, and pay some money, and then you get some training, and pay some money and then you take a test - you pay for the test, but maybe you need some more training, and pay some money.... one day you get to fly, if you pay some money.
It's kinda like hiring a lawyer - in fact, that's one of the first things you'll need to do.
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#48
by
ras391
on 23 May, 2015 02:10
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So, why are the called "back-ups" ? They are in fact just paying customers for training.
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#49
by
QuantumG
on 23 May, 2015 03:37
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So, why are the called "back-ups" ? They are in fact just paying customers for training.
because they get the first opportunity to make the next payment.
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#50
by
jacqmans
on 23 May, 2015 10:09
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#51
by
B. Hendrickx
on 23 May, 2015 20:56
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http://tass.ru/kosmos/1989300According to ITAR-TASS at least three candidates are being considered to occupy the Soyuz TMA-18M third seat : Russian businessman Filaret Galchev, Russian cosmonaut Sergei Prokopyev (of the 2010 intake) and Kazakh cosmonaut Aidyn Aimbetov. Galchev will be spending the next week at the Cosmonaut Training Center "to familiarize himself with the cosmonaut training process". A final decision is expected at the end of this month.
According to an article published in Izvestiya on 16 May Galchev has been undergoing medical screening and if he passes the tests is prepared to pay about $50 million for the ride to orbit. Representatives of Galchev first contacted Space Adventures in 2013 to discuss his possible participation in a space mission.
http://izvestia.ru/news/586590Here's some background on 51-year old Galchev from Forbes, which lists him as the 23rd wealthiest Russian businessman :
http://www.forbes.com/profile/filaret-galchev/"Filaret Galchev, who started out in coal, made the bulk of his fortune in cement, buying plants from Stern Cement and from Inteko, the construction company owned by Russia's richest woman, Elena Baturina. His Eurocement Group is now Russia's largest cement producer with a 30% market share.It recently announced plans to buy $860 million worth of cement machinery from Chinese manufacturers, using a loan to fund the purchases. Galchev also owns a nearly 11% stake in the Swiss cement business, Holcim."
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#52
by
Space Pete
on 23 May, 2015 21:44
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Galchev will be spending the next week at the Cosmonaut Training Center "to familiarize himself with the cosmonaut training process". A final decision is expected at the end of this month
NASA astronauts train for over three years to fly on the ISS, and that's not counting their two years of basic training prior to that (and of course their extensive technical qualifications and experience). So how can any ab-initio private citizen possibly "familiarise themselves with the training process" in only one week before a decision is taken?
Adding a tourist to the flight at L-3 months is irresponsible bordering on recklessness. I hope any tourists will be denied access to the USOS on safety grounds.
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#53
by
Ewoker
on 23 May, 2015 23:50
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Galchev will be spending the next week at the Cosmonaut Training Center "to familiarize himself with the cosmonaut training process". A final decision is expected at the end of this month
NASA astronauts train for over three years to fly on the ISS, and that's not counting their two years of basic training prior to that (and of course their extensive technical qualifications and experience). So how can any ab-initio private citizen possibly "familiarise themselves with the training process" in only one week before a decision is taken?
Adding a tourist to the flight at L-3 months is irresponsible bordering on recklessness. I hope any tourists will be denied access to the USOS on safety grounds.
Not that i really know anything, but there is a really big difference between a tourist and anstronaut/cosmonaut who's actually expected to do some research and possible technical stuf around there. All a tourist really needs to know is to how to use toilet and not to touch anything and where to go if there is a emergency. Possibly how to use fire extinguisher etc. it's not really comparable.
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#54
by
B. Hendrickx
on 24 May, 2015 00:32
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http://tass.ru/kosmos/1989300
According to ITAR-TASS at least three candidates are being considered to occupy the Soyuz TMA-18M third seat : Russian businessman Filaret Galchev, Russian cosmonaut Sergei Prokopyev (of the 2010 intake) and Kazakh cosmonaut Aidyn Aimbetov.
Out of these three the one who deserves the flight most is undoubtedly Aimbetov. He began training for a visiting flight to the ISS at Star City in 2003, but in 2009 Kazakhstan cancelled the mission due to financial problems. However, plans for such a flight were later resurrected and on 12 October 2012 he was given the official status of "Cosmonaut of the Republic of Kazakhstan". In May last year Talgat Musabayev, the head of the Kazakh space agency, said Aimbetov was the leading candidate for a Kazakh mission to the ISS in 2017.
If Aimbetov gets assigned to Soyuz TMA-18M, that would be an ironic twist of fate for Mukhtar Aimakhanov, another Kazakh-born cosmonaut who trained alongside Aimbetov from 2003 to 2009. After the cancellation of the Kazakh mission, he applied for Russian citizenship in order to be able to enter the Russian cosmonaut team. He received Russian citizenship in 2012 and was officially included in the Russian cosmonaut team on 14 August 2014. Therefore Aimakhanov must be better prepared to fly this mission than Aimbetov, but in his new capacity as Russian cosmonaut the Russians would have to give Aimakhonov a free ride. If they assign Aimbetov, they can charge Kazakhstan the usual price for a Soyuz seat. It remains to be seen though if Kazakhstan can come up with the money at such short notice.
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#55
by
jacqmans
on 29 May, 2015 14:28
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#56
by
TALsite
on 12 Jun, 2015 17:43
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#57
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 12 Jun, 2015 17:48
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#58
by
jacqmans
on 19 Jun, 2015 14:00
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Next Monday the Interministerial commission for manned missions will approve Aimbetov as the third crewmember of TMA-18M.
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#59
by
SMS
on 19 Jun, 2015 20:44
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