Angara-1.2PP first launch - July 9, 2014

[Chris Bergin]

As far as I can understand from the webcast, the launch has been delayed for tomorrow.

Ah, thanks. Let's see if it can be confirmed!

[Moskit]

Start delayed for tomorrow - this is the only official information.
Personel asked for time to analyse cause of the abort, Putin personally approved and told them to take their time to ensure launch success rather than rush it.

[Chris Bergin]

Thanks very much!

[Svetoslav]

As far as I can understand from the webcast, the launch has been delayed for tomorrow.

Ah, thanks. Let's see if it can be confirmed!

Confirmed:

http://ria.ru/space/20140627/1013837827.html

Первый запуск новейшей ракеты "Ангара" перенесен на сутки which means that the first launch has been delayed for a day.

[MATTBLAK]

Aw shucks...

[Chris Bergin]

Hey, we know this guy!

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Start delayed for tomorrow - this is the only official information.
Personel asked for time to analyse cause of the abort, Putin personally approved and told them to take their time to ensure launch success rather than rush it.

I somehow has the envision of Obama sitting in the situation room receiving reports from Hawthrone in the final minutes before the flight of FH...... 

[newpylong]

Angara is Roskosmos.

Why would Obama care about a private launch like FH?

First flight of a government vehicle like SLS, maybe.

[Chris Bergin]

Angara is Roskosmos.

Why would Obama care about a private launch like FH?

First flight of a government vehicle like SLS, maybe.

He was joking!

[Oli]

Start delayed for tomorrow - this is the only official information.
Personel asked for time to analyse cause of the abort, Putin personally approved and told them to take their time to ensure launch success rather than rush it.

I somehow has the envision of Obama sitting in the situation room receiving reports from Hawthrone in the final minutes before the flight of FH...... 

Putin looks lonely in that photo...

[Remes]

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/angara1pp.html

According to a reliable source on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki web forum, a leaky valve on the rocket had to be replaced before the next launch attempt.

Leaks again...

[Stan Black]

There are none - it will employ aerodynamic control surfaces for roll control.

aka fins

So was it eliminated from the design? And how will Angara-A5 work?

[baldusi]

There are none - it will employ aerodynamic control surfaces for roll control.

aka fins

So was it eliminated from the design? And how will Angara-A5 work?

AIUI, since the RD-191 has a single nozzle and no other exhaust (it's SC after all), they use the fins to avoid spin. And I believe they have some RCS, too. On the heavier versions, they have multiple cores and thus nozzles that they can TVC to correct any deviation and/or rotation. Thus, fins are unnecessary.

[edkyle99]

There are none - it will employ aerodynamic control surfaces for roll control.

aka fins

So was it eliminated from the design? And how will Angara-A5 work?

AIUI, since the RD-191 has a single nozzle and no other exhaust (it's SC after all), they use the fins to avoid spin. And I believe they have some RCS, too. On the heavier versions, they have multiple cores and thus nozzles that they can TVC to correct any deviation and/or rotation. Thus, fins are unnecessary.

Yes, my notes say that roll control is via. thruster once out of the atmosphere.  Those fins are only going to work for less than half of the burn time.  Also, Angara 5 will burn its boosters out and jettison them before the core (those were the original plans any way), so it too will need roll control.

Note that Orbital just lets Antares roll, at least to a certain rate.  Same for the big Minotaurs and old (Lockheed) Athenas too, I believe.

 - Ed Kyle

[notsorandom]

There are none - it will employ aerodynamic control surfaces for roll control.

aka fins

So was it eliminated from the design? And how will Angara-A5 work?

AIUI, since the RD-191 has a single nozzle and no other exhaust (it's SC after all), they use the fins to avoid spin. And I believe they have some RCS, too. On the heavier versions, they have multiple cores and thus nozzles that they can TVC to correct any deviation and/or rotation. Thus, fins are unnecessary.

Yes, my notes say that roll control is via. thruster once out of the atmosphere.  Those fins are only going to work for less than half of the burn time.  Also, Angara 5 will burn its boosters out and jettison them before the core (those were the original plans any way), so it too will need roll control.

 - Ed Kyle

That clears a lot up, thanks for the info guys. Do the fins move at all or do they provide passive roll control?

[Nicolas PILLET]

Some things I think I understood : A new (unique) launch pad has been developed for Angara, the same pad can be used for all versions of the rocket - Light, Medium, Heavy.

Unique, like the Delta IV pads at both the Cape and Vandenberg?

The Russian word "unique" has not exactly the same sense as the English word "unique".

[Chris Bergin]

Is this still a 24 hour delay, or longer now?

[Svetoslav]

I just checked all Russian sites with Google, last information from the past hour - all report a 24-hour delay.

[russianhalo117]

Start delayed for tomorrow - this is the only official information.
Personel asked for time to analyse cause of the abort, Putin personally approved and told them to take their time to ensure launch success rather than rush it.

I somehow has the envision of Obama sitting in the situation room receiving reports from Hawthrone in the final minutes before the flight of FH...... 

Putin looks lonely in that photo...

he seems to like it that way. Ive seen other pictures and video footage sitting in her alone.

[russianhalo117]

TsENKI has updated their page for launch tomorrow with same window times.