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#20 by Comga on 11 Mar, 2014 05:18
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Here are some links on ALL-STAR:
http://spacegrant.colorado.edu/boulderstudents/boulderprojects/allstar
http://spacegrant.colorado.edu/allstar-projects/theia
https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/a/all-star
http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/all-star-theia.htm
Size deployed 0.1 x 0.1 x 0.6m? with two panels, mass around 4 to 5 kg
Great data sets on the spacegrant.colorado.edu site.
From that data the folded dimensions of ALLSTAR seems to be 100 by 112 by 320 mm.
Deployed size seems to be about 140 by 380 by 580 mm with the four solar panes unfolded and the payload bench extended.
"All-Star required to be under 4kg Current mass estimate 3.93 kg"
although "Estimated 3 wires, staking and conformal coating grams, wing bumpers ~170 grams" may be in addition.
Can anyone verify these values?
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#21 by The Roadie on 11 Mar, 2014 19:20
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I can't explain why I think this is interesting, and I did search first, but for the late load items like fresh fruit, how are they sourced and processed? Does somebody go to the local Safeway and buy them? Are they processed to remove fruit flies or other contaminants? Or do they have a part number and somebody seals them in triple layer mylar and removes the skin as useless mass and separates the sections if it's a citrus? Or is it just a few apples in a Zip-loc bag?
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#22 by Zed_Noir on 11 Mar, 2014 22:17
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I can't explain why I think this is interesting, and I did search first, but for the late load items like fresh fruit, how are they sourced and processed? Does somebody go to the local Safeway and buy them? Are they processed to remove fruit flies or other contaminants? Or do they have a part number and somebody seals them in triple layer mylar and removes the skin as useless mass and separates the sections if it's a citrus? Or is it just a few apples in a Zip-loc bag?
IIRC when SpaceX brought up apples as the very late cargo. It was sourced from an orchard own by a SpaceX employee relative.
edited: misspelling
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#23 by jcm on 11 Mar, 2014 22:23
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I can't explain why I think this is interesting, and I did search first, but for the late load items like fresh fruit, how are they sourced and processed? Does somebody go to the local Safeway and buy them? Are they processed to remove fruit flies or other contaminants? Or do they have a part number and somebody seals them in triple layer mylar and removes the skin as useless mass and separates the sections if it's a citrus? Or is it just a few apples in a Zip-loc bag?
IIRC when SpaceX brought up apples as the very late cargo. It was sourced from an orchid own by a SpaceX employee relative.
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#24 by collectSPACE on 11 Mar, 2014 22:38
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Cheerleaders' space station experiment to grow space history one microbe at a time
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-031114a-friendship7-project-merccuri-iss.html
A very, very (very) small sample from John Glenn's 1962 Mercury capsule "Friendship 7" is set to launch to the International Space Station as part of an experiment organized by professional cheerleaders.
The microbial spacecraft sample — literally, the bacteria Pantoea eucrina — is among 48 microbes swabbed from a variety of historical places (like the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum) and sports stadiums that will be compared for the rate at which they grow in space.
The swabbing was led by Science Cheerleader, a group of current and former NFL and NBA cheerleaders pursuing careers in science and technology. The organization plays off public stereotypes to encourage participation in citizen science activities.
The Project MERCCURI (or Microbial Ecology Research Combining Citizen and University Researchers) payload is launching on SpaceX's third Dragon spacecraft to resupply the space station for NASA...
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#25 by Lar on 11 Mar, 2014 23:06
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IIRC when SpaceX brought up apples as the very late cargo. It was sourced from an orchid own by a SpaceX employee relative.
I think you mean 'orchard'. Or a very weird orchid...
Genetic Engineering works wonders these days.Odd there's a fairing instead of a Dragon.
That aside, sounds like interesting work.
Is that going on CRS-3 ? Maybe it's a typo. Neat that they got the legs.And Kicksat, a 3U cubesats with N Sprites, where estimates of N are as high as 200 (trying to get the actual number).
According to the YouTube video it says "32 rows of Sprites deploy in ~7.5s". Each row has four satellites, giving a total of 128. This capture from the video also shows 32 rows.
It says the smaller number on the Kickstarter site. They raised 75K more or less, did they get funding or a free ride elsewhere? Else that much stuff for 75K is fairly amazing. -
#26 by llanitedave on 12 Mar, 2014 02:09
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I can't explain why I think this is interesting, and I did search first, but for the late load items like fresh fruit, how are they sourced and processed? Does somebody go to the local Safeway and buy them? Are they processed to remove fruit flies or other contaminants? Or do they have a part number and somebody seals them in triple layer mylar and removes the skin as useless mass and separates the sections if it's a citrus? Or is it just a few apples in a Zip-loc bag?
IIRC when SpaceX brought up apples as the very late cargo. It was sourced from an orchid own by a SpaceX employee relative.
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#27 by Zardar on 12 Mar, 2014 07:58
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Did they try to return the cores on that mission?I can't explain why I think this is interesting, and I did search first, but for the late load items like fresh fruit, how are they sourced and processed? Does somebody go to the local Safeway and buy them? Are they processed to remove fruit flies or other contaminants? Or do they have a part number and somebody seals them in triple layer mylar and removes the skin as useless mass and separates the sections if it's a citrus? Or is it just a few apples in a Zip-loc bag?
IIRC when SpaceX brought up apples as the very late cargo. It was sourced from an orchid own by a SpaceX employee relative.
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#28 by Prober on 12 Mar, 2014 14:28
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wow, blue bunny suits
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#29 by Ben the Space Brit on 12 Mar, 2014 14:46
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"Hand of Blue, Two by two..."
Sorry, had a Firefly flashback.
Anyway, I always find it interesting to look in through the CBM when there are people in a Dragon to try and visualise what the crewed version will look like in microgravity. -
#30 by Chalmer on 12 Mar, 2014 20:52
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For me one of the most interesting payloads is the Vegetable Production System (VEGGIE).
Description from the NASA mission page:
Vegetable Production System (VEGGIE)
VEGGIE is a deployable plant growth unit capable of producing salad-type crops to
provide the crew with appetizing, nutritious, and safe, fresh food and support crew
relaxation and recreation. The VEGGIE unit provides lighting and nutrient delivery, but
uses the cabin environment for temperature control and as a source of carbon dioxide
to promote growth. This study will emphasize the focus on human habitability in space,
since growing food in space may greatly improve long-duration spaceflight. VEGGIE
can support a variety of experiments used to determine how plants sense and respond
to gravity. The plants will be harvested for further investigation and, if found to be safe
after study, consumed by the crewmembers. VEGGIE’s growth volume will be the
largest volume available to date for plant growth on the space station, which will enable
growth of larger plants than was previously available due to size restrictions. This
improved understanding of plant growth and development in microgravity has important
implications for improving plant production on Earth.
More info in the PDF from Orbitec.
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#31 by Comga on 12 Mar, 2014 21:04
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Question: Are both OPALS and HDEV being carried to the ISS on FRAMs?
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#32 by Robotbeat on 12 Mar, 2014 21:14
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I like the mini-garden. Good idea, the astronauts will like it. Even a little bit of superficial fresh greens will be a welcome sight after being in space for months. I can speak from experience (since I live in Minnesota... LOL).
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#33 by manboy on 12 Mar, 2014 22:18
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For me one of the most interesting payloads is the Vegetable Production System (VEGGIE).
Here's some better PDFs, one also mentions the Advanced Plant Habitat which is expected to be launched at a later date.
Description from the NASA mission page:
Vegetable Production System (VEGGIE)
VEGGIE is a deployable plant growth unit capable of producing salad-type crops to
provide the crew with appetizing, nutritious, and safe, fresh food and support crew
relaxation and recreation. The VEGGIE unit provides lighting and nutrient delivery, but
uses the cabin environment for temperature control and as a source of carbon dioxide
to promote growth. This study will emphasize the focus on human habitability in space,
since growing food in space may greatly improve long-duration spaceflight. VEGGIE
can support a variety of experiments used to determine how plants sense and respond
to gravity. The plants will be harvested for further investigation and, if found to be safe
after study, consumed by the crewmembers. VEGGIE’s growth volume will be the
largest volume available to date for plant growth on the space station, which will enable
growth of larger plants than was previously available due to size restrictions. This
improved understanding of plant growth and development in microgravity has important
implications for improving plant production on Earth.
More info in the PDF from Orbitec.
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130000813.pdf
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130013520.pdf
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#34 by jcm on 13 Mar, 2014 04:03
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Question: Are both OPALS and HDEV being carried to the ISS on FRAMs?
My real interest is whether two FRAMs can be carried in the trunk at the same time.
My understanding is that HDEV is on a CEPA (Columbus) FRAM and OPALS is on an EXPA (Express pallet) FRAM.
Not sure what the differences are between those.
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#35 by Skyrocket on 13 Mar, 2014 05:35
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Concerning the cubesats:
The NASA Presskit (http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SpaceXCRS-3_PressKit_FINAL.pdf) contains following info:
Falcon 9 will deliver five CubeSats to orbit as part of the CRS-3 mission, contained in four Poly Picosatellite Orbital Deployers (P-PODs).
Therefore it must be three 3U-Cubesats and each one 2U-Cubesat and one 1U-Cubesat.
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#36 by Lars_J on 13 Mar, 2014 05:48
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Someone mentioned in the update thread (?) that the cubsats are not attached on top of the upper stage, but instead they hang under it, next to the MVac. If so, Are there diagrams somewhere that illustrate their location?
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#37 by Skyrocket on 13 Mar, 2014 09:24
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Concerning the cubesats:
The NASA Presskit (http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SpaceXCRS-3_PressKit_FINAL.pdf) contains following info:
Falcon 9 will deliver five CubeSats to orbit as part of the CRS-3 mission, contained in four Poly Picosatellite Orbital Deployers (P-PODs).
Therefore it must be three 3U-Cubesats and each one 2U-Cubesat and one 1U-Cubesat.
The 1U-Cubesat is PhoneSat 2.5 (see http://www.phonesat.org/ )
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#38 by Skyrocket on 13 Mar, 2014 12:37
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Concerning the cubesats:
The NASA Presskit (http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SpaceXCRS-3_PressKit_FINAL.pdf) contains following info:
Falcon 9 will deliver five CubeSats to orbit as part of the CRS-3 mission, contained in four Poly Picosatellite Orbital Deployers (P-PODs).
Therefore it must be three 3U-Cubesats and each one 2U-Cubesat and one 1U-Cubesat.
The 1U-Cubesat is PhoneSat 2.5 (see http://www.phonesat.org/ )
Also confirmed are ALL-STAR/THEIA (3U) and KickSat (3U)
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#39 by Comga on 13 Mar, 2014 19:49
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Question: Are both OPALS and HDEV being carried to the ISS on FRAMs?
My real interest is whether two FRAMs can be carried in the trunk at the same time.
My understanding is that HDEV is on a CEPA (Columbus) FRAM and OPALS is on an EXPA (Express pallet) FRAM.
Not sure what the differences are between those.
My apologies. That was in your orignal post.
There is some size difference between the FRAMS. The EXPA FRAM is 1.17m by 1.19 m, and the CEPA FRAM has the same 1 cubic meter capacity. It might even use the NASA FRAM and they are clearly using the same acronym. It is not clear how the JEF payloads, which can be 0.80 m by 1,0 m by 1.85 m (plus PIU), will be carried in Dragon. However, I don't think the differences are enough to change the capacity.
I did see the attached image in a presentation on RapidScat. That says that each Dragon Trunk can hold three FRAMS.
