Article XVI Any State Party to the Treaty may give notice of its withdrawal from the Treaty one year after its entry into force by written notification to the Depositary Governments. Such withdrawal shall take effect one year from the date of receipt of this notification.
Country C quits. A few days later country A quits in response. That leaves a window of a few days for country C to get there and claim the whole moon as sovereign property.That's essentially what Bigelow (and others) see as probable and why he's passionate about rights and lunar industry.
A country that is not part of OST can claim whatever it wants. But if others nations do not recognize it, that claim isn't worth much.
Outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.
Quote from: yg1968 on 02/25/2014 02:48 pmA country that is not part of OST can claim whatever it wants. But if others nations do not recognize it, that claim isn't worth much.Unless there is a large army and economic power/entanglement to support the claim of the expansionist claimant. Then the Yangtze muddies.
The moon is large. It is a matter of being civilized. Claims can be made and filed. Different areas are suited for different operations. Everyone will not have to be in the same area ( gold miners on a river ).
How are they going to defend the claims?As soon as we start talking about armed corporations, the line between private corporation and state blurs.
Quote from: Robotbeat on 02/28/2014 10:49 pmHow are they going to defend the claims?As soon as we start talking about armed corporations, the line between private corporation and state blurs.Uhh.. what?Have you never heard of private security?
Quote from: Rocket Science on 02/20/2014 02:21 pmChina just this past week said it intends to revisit any treaty it signed in the past as she is much more than she was and those treaties are in a sense voided....What?!I hope that is true. An aggressive Chinese lunar push might prod U.S. politicians to wake up.And even if the U.S. doesn't step up, it's good to see some part of human civilization pushing the envelope.Rocket Science do you have a link for that?
China just this past week said it intends to revisit any treaty it signed in the past as she is much more than she was and those treaties are in a sense voided....
Of course, and that's my point. A corporation existing outside a nation-state's territory (and control) that exerts its control using threat of force is a de-facto state.
Quote from: Robotbeat on 02/28/2014 11:04 pmOf course, and that's my point. A corporation existing outside a nation-state's territory (and control) that exerts its control using threat of force is a de-facto state.Defending your own property doesn't make anyone akin to the state.Here's a better definition: the state is that class of people who claim the right to violate natural law.
Your invented definition, with your invented understanding of what natural law is.
The corporation at that point is de facto sovereign.
Call it whatever you libertarians prefer to call it.
I offer an alternative that believe has not been considered. Use the exact geopolitical boundaries that define the nations on Earth reproduced on the Moon.
Quote from: Rocket Science on 02/28/2014 11:30 pmI offer an alternative that believe has not been considered. Use the exact geopolitical boundaries that define the nations on Earth reproduced on the Moon.Implying that individuals are owned by their nation states and therefore can have no independent claim to unclaimed land?
Quote from: Robotbeat on 02/28/2014 11:22 pmYour invented definition, with your invented understanding of what natural law is.As opposed to your invented definition?
Quote from: RobotbeatThe corporation at that point is de facto sovereign. Ruling over whom?
