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#60
by
savuporo
on 14 Dec, 2013 17:48
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Yes, and free moon cakes please. /i will burn in hell
Also it bears to mention that the live coverage was much more subdued than this last one
http://bit.ly/1ftX99K
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#61
by
Silmfeanor
on 14 Dec, 2013 19:45
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Congratulations!
First moon landing in my lifetime, hopefully not the last. Very exciting to watch it live.
Attached picture found on the internet, pretty good, right?
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#62
by
Steven Pietrobon
on 15 Dec, 2013 00:33
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After the landing last night, I took this photo of the Moon with my cheap digital camera. Unfortunately, the Moon is washed out, but was surprised that stars also appeared. Also had a look with my binoculars. As we're in the southern hemisphere, the Moon looks "upside down" to us.
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#63
by
savuporo
on 15 Dec, 2013 06:57
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#64
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 15 Dec, 2013 07:25
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I was driving on I-280 just a short while ago and could not stop glancing at the moon. Almost crashed.
BTW, Any of our mandardin speaking friends here translate this one ?
https://twitter.com/remonwangxt/status/411841979761176576/photo/1
It cant be good ?
Translation: 
This may be what happened to Chang'e after landing on the Moon:
"Where's
Wu Gang that stupid kid? He promised to meet me when I land!"
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#65
by
Avron
on 15 Dec, 2013 15:15
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First for China, rover to take siesta on moon over noon time period. That has to be a first for China moon or no moon. Who knows what will happen over the noon hours on the moon.. Cooked Rabbit, I hope not..
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#66
by
plutogno
on 15 Dec, 2013 16:18
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rabbits are also known to multiply quite fast... here I am waiting for a Fibonacci series of lunar robotic missions
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#67
by
Ares67
on 15 Dec, 2013 19:44
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The rabbit has landed!
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#68
by
Rocket Science
on 15 Dec, 2013 20:01
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The rabbit has landed!
Now that’s funny!
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#69
by
MP99
on 15 Dec, 2013 20:10
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rabbits are also known to multiply quite fast... here I am waiting for a Fibonacci series of lunar robotic missions
See what you did there - very good!
cheers, Martin
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#70
by
Citabria
on 16 Dec, 2013 17:58
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This got deleted from the Live Update thread. Fair enough. Will it fly here?
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#71
by
NovaSilisko
on 16 Dec, 2013 18:01
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I suppose it goes better here, except it's backwards. Chang'e should be giant and all hunched over with tiny Yutu sitting on her back
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#72
by
savuporo
on 16 Dec, 2013 19:00
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This got deleted from the Live Update thread. Fair enough. Will it fly here?
That should be the official mission patch
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#73
by
Eric Hedman
on 16 Dec, 2013 21:05
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It took a while, but finally, Wan Hu can rest in peace !
I think its safe to say he is resting in piece(s)
Now that's funny.
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#74
by
Eric Hedman
on 16 Dec, 2013 21:08
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#75
by
luhai167
on 17 Dec, 2013 07:44
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In the People's Daily they are addressing the argument over the value of spending on these kinds of missions. It'll be interesting to see if they end up with same kind of issues we have here.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/202936/8486114.html
Indeed there is a debate here. Though, in China's case, there is the example of Zheng He to argue against "common sense bean counting".
Here is a except from a rather popular post about current affairs in China. This section talk about future of space flight. The article is strongly for space exploration, but cautions against spending too much too quickly.
http://www.cchere.com/article/3930201走出去，还是留下来，这是一个问题。六百年前，我们中国人曾经面临过一次类似的抉择。当时的我们拥有世界上最强大的远洋船队，有能力去往地球上任何地方。但是，我们的祖先放弃了这个机会，因为外面的世界是那么的漂泊不定、凶险莫名和无利可图，而脚下的土地是那么的确定和牢靠，上面的收获是那么的丰盛和稳定，自己的家园是那么的安全和温暖。所以，他们放弃了航船和海图，专心于祖传的土地和生活，结果是在一百多年前的那次危机中，我们险些失去了自身的生存机会。如今我们虽然渡过了危机，但只能在脚下这片有限的土地上寻求生活，面临各种资源匮乏的危机，土地、粮食、油气、淡水、铁矿等等，莫不如是，人口压力和环境问题的根源也都在此。为此中国建设了不少规模宏大的资源调配工程，南水北调、北煤南运、西气东送……，以满足各地的需要；付出巨额的投资乃至鲜血和生命，在崇山峻岭之中修建架桥、修路、开隧道；动用政治、经济、军事、外交等一切手段从海外获得资源，南沙争端、钓鱼岛巡航、援助非洲……；归根到底，这一切都是在为我们的生存和发展获取必要的资源。我们在赞叹这些成就的壮观和宏伟之余，心底里不知是否也有那么一丝丝的感慨和无奈。
相比之下，西方的航海者冒着九死一生的危险坚持远洋航行，“发现”了新大陆，为工业化积累了原始资本、开拓了原料产地和产品市场，此后他们开枝散叶，遍布整个地球，获得了极大的生存空间和资源。他们得以保留大片的原始森林和草地，休闲之余还可用来展示对野生动物的爱心关怀；他们不需要象我们一样用河堤和大坝来保卫自己的家园，只需要搬离泛滥的河床、崩塌的山丘就行了，享受安全的生活之余，还能大肆宣扬自己保护自然环境的高尚品德。然而，这些东西都不是属于我们的，六百年前的那个选择让我们失去了这个机会。指出这些，并非是鼓动我们去学习当年的殖民者――用消灭土著的办法为自己拓展生存空间，那不是我们的文明传统，也绝不是我们应该做的事情。我们需要从中学到的教训，不是在地球上重复他们的作为，而是不要再犯自己曾经犯过的那个错误，仅此而已。
今天的中国又一次面临相同的选择。近代从西方爆发的工业革命和科技进步，使得包括中国在内的全体人类获得了前所未有视野和能力，让我们第一次睁开眼睛观看宇宙、第一次迈开步伐走入宇宙。西方的工业先进国家已经实现了让人类踏上月球、无人探测器登陆火星和飞出太阳系。现在，人类已经站在了通向无限宇宙的大门口，对于中国也是同样。何去何从，是重复六百年前的那种选择，还是勇敢地走出去？历史的选择再一次摆在了我们的面前。如果中国仅仅在地球的范围内寻求未来，把工业作为在这个小小行星上求生或者称霸的手段，满足于工业化带来的生活享受，前景恐怕不会比恐龙更加长远。相反，如果我们能够把握住这个机会，勇敢而坚定地走出去，五千年绵延不绝的华夏文明将不仅能重新屹立在世界之林，而且有机会成为星际文明，在无限广阔的空间里得以生存。实际上，能够再次拥有这样的机会，本身已经是命运对于我们的极大眷顾了。其他很多民族、很多文明，连一次这样的机会都没有得到过，就消失在历史的长河里了。相信这一次我们能够把握住这个机会，因为航天对我们而言，不仅是一种实用技术，而且意味着未来的生存空间和发展方向。
毫无疑问，航天工程的投入是极其巨大的，搞不好的话还没有怎么进入太空，国家就先崩溃在地面上了，这方面前苏联的教训是值得我们借鉴的。要走入星辰大海，必须也只能一小步一小步地往前走，不能把航天搞成消耗资源的无底洞，也不能为了好高骛远的目标而损害眼下的生存，而是要让太空为地面服务、为当前的生存服务，以此为起点逐步向外发展，才能走得越来越远。
现在的中国正是这么做的。通讯卫星、遥感卫星、北斗导航等等都是为地面服务的，并且为我们带来了实实在在的经济利益和安全保障。中国的载人航天采取的是分步走的策略，没有象美苏在太空竞赛中那样不计代价地连续发射，而是在尽可能少的发射次数中完成尽可能多的测试，每次达成一个阶段性目标：神舟一号为试验样机，神舟二号为定型飞行，神舟三号进行了模拟载人试验，神舟四号完成了实际载人前的全系统改进和测试，神舟五号把中国人首次送入了太空，神舟六号完成了多人多天的太空飞行，神舟七号实现了宇航员的太空行走，神舟八号在无人情况下与天宫一号达成了空间交会对接和组合体运行，神舟九号把中国人送进了自己的空间站，神舟十号在天地之间实现了实时双向的太空授课。在前后14年的时间里，以平均每年不足一次的发射频率，中国从无到有地建立了载人航天系统并拥有了太空站技术，下一步，到2020年，中国将建立起长期有人值守的大型空间站。中国的探月工程也是同样的节奏，分为“绕”、“落”和“回”三个阶段，依次实现绕月探测、月面着陆和取样返回，之后才是载人登月。可见中国航天所走的，是一条稳健实用之路，不为争霸、不图虚名，只为国家富强和民族生存，未来还将一步步地走向星辰大海。
Quick and Dirty google translate
Go , or stay, this is a problem . Six hundred years ago , we Chinese people have faced a similar choice. Then we have the world's most powerful ocean-going fleet , have the ability to go anywhere on the planet . However , our ancestors gave up this opportunity, because the outside world is so vagrant , inexplicable and dangerous unprofitable , while the foot of the land is so determined and strong , above the harvest is so rich and stable , their own the home is so safe and warm . So they gave up the ship and charts, to concentrate on ancestral lands and lives , the result is that a crisis in one hundred years ago , we almost lost their chance of survival. Today, although we crossed the crisis, but only seek limited on this piece of land at the foot of living crisis facing scarce resources , land, grain, oil , fresh water, iron , etc., nothing so , population pressure and environmental root of the problem are also here. To this end a number of large-scale Chinese construction resource deployment project , the South , North coal south , West -East Gas Transmission ...... to meet the needs of the country; pay a huge amount of investment as well as blood and life , the construction of the bridge in the mountains , roads, open tunnel ; mobilize all means to the political, economic , military, diplomatic and other resources obtained from abroad , Nansha dispute over the Diaoyu Islands cruise , Africa ...... ; Ultimately, all this is to get to our survival and development of the necessary resources. We praise these spectacular and magnificent achievements aside, the heart, so I do not know if there 's a trace of emotion and frustration.
In contrast, the West Nine Lives Voyager insistence risking ocean voyage , "discovered" the New World , for the industrialization of the original accumulation of capital , raw materials and products open up the market , then they are flourishing throughout the whole earth , was a great living space and resources. They preserved large tracts of virgin forest and grassland , leisure I also used to show love and care for wild animals ; They do not like us with embankments and dams to defend their homes , just move out of the river flooding , collapse of the hills on the line, enjoying the security of life , but also trumpeted themselves to protect the natural environment of noble character . However, these things are not part of us, six hundred years ago, the choice to let us lose this opportunity. Point out that these are not encouraging us to learn is the year of the colonists - with the eradication of the indigenous way to expand living space for yourself, it is not our cultural tradition , nor are we supposed to do . We need to learn the lessons and not repeat them , as on Earth , but not to repeat the mistake he had committed , and nothing more.
China today faces the same choice again . From the outbreak of the modern western industrial revolution and technological progress , making all human beings , including China, gained unprecedented vision and ability , so we first opened his eyes to watch the universe , taking the first steps into the universe . Western industrialized countries have achieved so that humans set foot on the moon, flying unmanned probe to Mars and the solar system . Now , mankind has stood at the gate leading to an infinite universe , is the same for China . Go , is repeated six hundred years ago, the kind of choice, or courage to go out ? The choice of history once again placed in front of us. If China is just asking for the future within the scope of the earth, or dominate the industry as the survival of the small planet means to meet industrialization brought enjoyment of life , long-term prospects will probably not be more than the dinosaurs. On the contrary, if we can seize this opportunity to go out and brave and firm , five thousand years of Chinese civilization unbroken will not be able to re- stand in the forest of the world , and have the opportunity to become interstellar civilization , in the vast unlimited space to survive. In fact , to have this opportunity again , fate itself is a great blessing for us up . Many other ethnic groups , many of civilization , even one such opportunity have not been before, it disappeared in the course of history in it. I believe this time we are able to seize this opportunity because spaceflight for us, is not only a practical technology , but also means that the future direction of development of space and survive .
Undoubtedly, investment aerospace engineering is extremely huge, if not how they might go into space , the state on the first crash on the ground , and in this regard the former Soviet Union learned is that we can learn from . To walk into the sea stars , must only small steps to move forward , the consumption of resources can not mess aerospace bottomless pit , nor ambitious goals in order to survive the damage now , but to make space for the ground services for the survival of the current service , as a starting point for the development of progressive outward to go farther .
Now China is doing . Communication satellites , remote sensing satellites, Beidou navigation , etc. are for the ground services , and brought tangible economic benefits and security guarantees for us. China 's manned space taken is to go step by step strategy , the Soviet Union did not like at all costs to launch in the space race in a row , but to complete the task in fewest missions possible, each reached a milestones : Shenzhou I to test prototype , Shenzhou II was finalized flight , Shenzhou III trials were simulated manned Shenzhou IV completed the system-wide improvements and practical test before manned Shenzhou V of the Chinese people for the first time into space , Shenzhou VI completed a multi- multiplayer -day space flight , Shenzhou VII spacewalk astronauts achieved , under no circumstances Shenzhou VIII and Tiangong reached a space rendezvous and docking and assembly run , the Chinese Shenzhou nine people sent its own space station , Shenzhou ten between heaven and earth to achieve a real-time two-way teaching space . In the 14 years before , the annual average less than once a transmit frequency, Chinese from scratch to build a manned space systems and has a space station technology , the next step , by 2020, China will establish a long-term was on duty the large space station . China 's lunar exploration program is the same rhythm, into "around ", " down" and "back" in three stages , in order to achieve lunar exploration , lunar landing and sample return , after which is manned lunar landing . China Aerospace are taking visible , is a robust and practical road, not hegemony , not undeserved reputation , only to national prosperity and national survival , the future will be a step towards the sea of stars .
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#76
by
baldusi
on 17 Dec, 2013 14:23
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A good translation should be sent to every single Congressmen on USA, Europe, Japan and India. Just to remind them of how long thinking nations do it.
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#77
by
savuporo
on 18 Dec, 2013 21:21
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Chang'e-3 Moon Rover @ChangRover 17 Dec
I have proved the moon landings were faked. If the Americans had landed here 40 years ago there would be at least one Starbucks.
Well. They definitely were not from downtown San Francisco.
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#78
by
Lar
on 18 Dec, 2013 21:35
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A good translation should be sent to every single Congressmen on USA, Europe, Japan and India. Just to remind them of how long thinking nations do it.
+1
"the future will be a step towards the sea of stars" ... if we choose that future.
"long-term prospects will probably not be more than the dinosaurs" ... if we don't
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#79
by
savuporo
on 19 Dec, 2013 19:10
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