Головной обтекатель (СЗБ) 17С13А8 для запуска КА «Фотон-М» № 4 (353У.0001.002 ТУ)
Подготовка к транспортировке, транспортировка, сопровождение РН «Союз-2-1а» с ГО (СЗБ) для запуска КА «Фотон-М» № 4 в эксплуатирующую организацию и возврат спецтранспорта на предприятие
Подготовка РН 14А14 этапа 1б на ТК и СК, запуск РКН с "Фотон-М" №4.
Soyuz-2.1a or Soyuz-2.1b ??
Quote from: Nicolas PILLET on 01/17/2014 07:29 amSoyuz-2.1a or Soyuz-2.1b ??The documentation says Soyuz 2.1a.
Экспертиза устойчивости и управляемости РН "Союз-2" этапа 1а с КА "Фотон-М" № 4
TsENKI are now reporting the launch date as the 19th.
Any news on the status of live coverage for this flight?
I quote Anatoly Zak:QuoteIt was the second try to fly the Angara-1.2PP test rocket, after the original launch attempt was scrubbed just minutes before its scheduled liftoff on June 27 due to a technical glitch. The live coverage of the aborted launch attempt watched by the Russian president Vladimir Putin was apparently considered as a major embarrassment by the Russian space officials, leading to a ban of TV broadcasts during the launch of the Meteor-M2 satellite on Tuesday and leaving no chance for the Russian public to see the historic first launch of the Angara today.With no live coverage of the event, the Russian Vice Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin confirmed the launch in his Twitter feed with just two words: "Angara yest" (There is Angara), minutes after its scheduled liftoff.
It was the second try to fly the Angara-1.2PP test rocket, after the original launch attempt was scrubbed just minutes before its scheduled liftoff on June 27 due to a technical glitch. The live coverage of the aborted launch attempt watched by the Russian president Vladimir Putin was apparently considered as a major embarrassment by the Russian space officials, leading to a ban of TV broadcasts during the launch of the Meteor-M2 satellite on Tuesday and leaving no chance for the Russian public to see the historic first launch of the Angara today.With no live coverage of the event, the Russian Vice Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin confirmed the launch in his Twitter feed with just two words: "Angara yest" (There is Angara), minutes after its scheduled liftoff.
Quote from: Star One on 07/09/2014 01:15 pmAny news on the status of live coverage for this flight?taken from info now being made available:Quote from: russianhalo117 on 07/09/2014 01:10 pmI quote Anatoly Zak:QuoteIt was the second try to fly the Angara-1.2PP test rocket, after the original launch attempt was scrubbed just minutes before its scheduled liftoff on June 27 due to a technical glitch. The live coverage of the aborted launch attempt watched by the Russian president Vladimir Putin was apparently considered as a major embarrassment by the Russian space officials, leading to a ban of TV broadcasts during the launch of the Meteor-M2 satellite on Tuesday and leaving no chance for the Russian public to see the historic first launch of the Angara today.With no live coverage of the event, the Russian Vice Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin confirmed the launch in his Twitter feed with just two words: "Angara yest" (There is Angara), minutes after its scheduled liftoff.Future broadcasts of launches may continue to be banned until senior government officials regain their confidence.
Quote from: Kryten on 07/09/2014 11:43 am TsENKI are now reporting the launch date as the 19th.00:50 Moscow Time on July 19th is 20:30 UTC on July 18th
Is there a full list of experiments to be carried on board? Are there any foreign institutions that continues to participate like ESA did for the last 3 (maybe more than that) Foton missions?
Quote from: Star One on 07/09/2014 01:15 pmAny news on the status of live coverage for this flight?The trend seems clear. We've likely witnessed our last Russian launch failure.It's a shame. In recent years, until now, Russia's space program has been more unafraid and open to public scrutiny than that of the United States. - Ed Kyle
I suppose that the launcher was transported to the launch pad today (?)
Quote from: Satori on 07/16/2014 08:44 amI suppose that the launcher was transported to the launch pad today (?)I think the roll-out will be performed later.
Some pictures od the Foton-M n.Ί 4 encapsulation posted on facebook... ups, and now also available at http://www.roscosmos.ru/20772/
The roll-out is planned for tomorrow at 13:00 UTC.
Start: 18:50:00 UTC, July 18, 2014.End: 21:50:00 UTC, July 18, 2014.
K0443/14 - ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS CLOSED: 1.A73 BETTIK-TIBDA FM 30KM TO 90KM 2.B822 GORIM-DAKIN FM 70KM TO 270KM 3.A368 INRIK-ARKALYK FM 40KM TO 140KM 4.G167 ASTIK-EDETO FM 20KM TO 150KM 5.B823 VETUB-TUSEP FM 70KM 6.A80 OSROL-ARKALYK FM 60KM TO 160KM SFC/UNL. 18 JUL 20:30 2014 UNTIL 18 JUL 21:30 2014. CREATED: 14 JUL 10:07 2014
P4762/14 - RESTRICTED AREA ACT: UNR1232. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2040-2200, 18 JUL 20:40 2014 UNTIL 19 JUL 22:00 2014. CREATED: 15 JUL 02:25 2014
P4717/14 - ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD: B228 MINOR - KENGA G117 NIRUS - NOVY VASYUGAN NDB (XV) P865 DARET - BIKUN. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2040-2200, 18 JUL 20:40 2014 UNTIL 19 JUL 22:00 2014. CREATED: 11 JUL 11:53 2014
Text and links on http://tv-tsenki.com/ & http://tsenki.com/broadcast/ have been removed, looks like another no webcast launch.
Quote from: tehwkd on 07/18/2014 06:26 pmText and links on http://tv-tsenki.com/ & http://tsenki.com/broadcast/ have been removed, looks like another no webcast launch.Are you sure? I can see the links at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/
Quote from: Satori on 07/18/2014 06:44 pmQuote from: tehwkd on 07/18/2014 06:26 pmText and links on http://tv-tsenki.com/ & http://tsenki.com/broadcast/ have been removed, looks like another no webcast launch.Are you sure? I can see the links at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/The links on the broadcast page are still there but the Foton-M launch announcement + webcast start time + launch time text have been removed and so is the link to the broadcast page. Things that were there few h ago when I last checked.
Quote from: tehwkd on 07/18/2014 06:49 pmQuote from: Satori on 07/18/2014 06:44 pmQuote from: tehwkd on 07/18/2014 06:26 pmText and links on http://tv-tsenki.com/ & http://tsenki.com/broadcast/ have been removed, looks like another no webcast launch.Are you sure? I can see the links at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/The links on the broadcast page are still there but the Foton-M launch announcement + webcast start time + launch time text have been removed and so is the link to the broadcast page. Things that were there few h ago when I last checked. I see no major differences from previous TsENKI webcast pages, but lets wait and see.
http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/live1.phphttp://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/broadcast/live2.phplinks work fine at the moment.
Doesn't work. They are clearly blocking certain countries.
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 07/18/2014 08:51 pmDoesn't work. They are clearly blocking certain countries.did you try with windows media player. didnt work with VLC did work with WMP
Quote from: tehwkd on 07/18/2014 08:52 pmQuote from: Chris Bergin on 07/18/2014 08:51 pmDoesn't work. They are clearly blocking certain countries.did you try with windows media player. didnt work with VLC did work with WMPYep. Blocked.
If the Russians don't want coverage, maybe we should accommodate them. - Ed Kyle
Stream worked fine in Germany. So I doubt political reasons.
Quote from: edkyle99 on 07/18/2014 08:58 pmIf the Russians don't want coverage, maybe we should accommodate them. - Ed KyleIt won't be the space people doing this. We're all on the same team in space. Politics suck whatever country you're in.
Quote from: Satori on 07/19/2014 10:46 amDo we have the complete serial number for this launcher?Possibly T15000-020.
Do we have the complete serial number for this launcher?
Rui, you can see it here, maybe I am mistaking.
The original Foton satellites had the designator 34KS: the first Foton-M satellites which retained the basic Zenit heritage for both the descent module and instrument/propulsion module were 34KSM which was logical.Foton-M 4 marks a switch from the "pure Zenit" heritage to a mixture of the Zenit descent module and a Yantar-class instrument/propulsion module (like the Yantar-1KFT/Kometa topographic and mapping satellites) and adds two vanes of solar panels. Therefore one would assume that it is assigned a different designator: does anyone know if this is correct and what that designator might be please?Right now I am calling it "34KSM2".It is clear that Foton-M and last year's Bion-M now have the same overall design and I wonder whether this design is an evolved version of the NIKA-T proposal from the late 1980s. Any thoughts?
the first Foton-M satellites which retained the basic Zenit heritage for both the descent module and instrument/propulsion module were 34KSM which was logical.
Quote from: Phillip Clark on 07/19/2014 01:43 pmThe original Foton satellites had the designator 34KS: the first Foton-M satellites which retained the basic Zenit heritage for both the descent module and instrument/propulsion module were 34KSM which was logical.Foton-M 4 marks a switch from the "pure Zenit" heritage to a mixture of the Zenit descent module and a Yantar-class instrument/propulsion module (like the Yantar-1KFT/Kometa topographic and mapping satellites) and adds two vanes of solar panels. Therefore one would assume that it is assigned a different designator: does anyone know if this is correct and what that designator might be please?Right now I am calling it "34KSM2".It is clear that Foton-M and last year's Bion-M now have the same overall design and I wonder whether this design is an evolved version of the NIKA-T proposal from the late 1980s. Any thoughts?This is the 1st 34KSM
Thank you Stan. I assume therefore that the first three Foton-M satellites retained the 34KS designator?
Quote from: Phillip Clark on 07/19/2014 02:19 pmThank you Stan. I assume therefore that the first three Foton-M satellites retained the 34KS designator?You don't want to read my post ?
No problem Phil ! By the way, I have all Foton serial number here :http://www.kosmonavtika.com/satellites/foton/liste.htmlAs you can see, Foron-M n°1, 2 and 3 are in reality Foton-13, 14 and 15. Some people say that they began the "-M" numeration because they did want to call it "Foton-13" by superstition. It seems that it was not enough !
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/satellites/foton/liste.htmlAs you can see, Foron-M n°1, 2 and 3 are in reality Foton-13, 14 and 15.
Quote from: Nicolas PILLET on 07/19/2014 04:41 pmhttp://www.kosmonavtika.com/satellites/foton/liste.htmlAs you can see, Foron-M n°1, 2 and 3 are in reality Foton-13, 14 and 15. It that official, Nicolas?
Quote from: Satori on 07/19/2014 05:31 pmQuote from: Nicolas PILLET on 07/19/2014 04:41 pmhttp://www.kosmonavtika.com/satellites/foton/liste.htmlAs you can see, Foron-M n°1, 2 and 3 are in reality Foton-13, 14 and 15. It that official, Nicolas?Serial numbers are official, of course. But, if I understand correctly your question, "Foton-13/14/15" designations are not official. Official names of these three satellites were "Foton-M n°1/2/3".What I meant was that "Foton-13" would be the "logical" name for a ship called 34KS n°13.
Official HD video from Roskosmos - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1457854547802561.
Quote from: Phillip Clark on 07/19/2014 01:43 pmthe first Foton-M satellites which retained the basic Zenit heritage for both the descent module and instrument/propulsion module were 34KSM which was logical.No, the first three Foton-M were 34KS. Foton-M n°4 is 34KSM n°E15000-01.
No orbit raising burn done - Foton-M not responding to commands, but telemetry still being receivedhttp://ria.ru/science/20140724/1017297775.htmlhttp://izvestia.ru/news/574278
Somehow I think that a 7 tonne spacecraft stranded in a 250 x 550 km orbit (probably won't stay afloat for more than 3-4 weeks before re-entering) with a big descent capsule sounds like a hazard to me... even bigger than USA-193 and Fobos-Grunt! (that said, I'm sure there are many similar sized film-return spysats that got stranded in similar orbits before....)
Quote from: anik on 07/19/2014 11:37 amRui, you can see it here, maybe I am mistaking.That looks a T15000 for me too... maybe we will have a rollout video to check that.
The Russian mission control lost its ability to send commands to a newly launched scientific capsule, possibly leaving it stranded in space.On Thursday (July 24), the Izvestiya daily quoted a source at the Russian space agency, Roskosmos, saying that the Foton-M4 spacecraft had stopped receiving commands from the ground soon after reaching orbit, even though it kept sending back its telemetry. The situation still left hopes for restoring full communications, however the scientific program onboard the spacecraft could be left unfulfilled, the Izvestiya's source said.Several hours after this publication, Roskosmos issued a statement saying that the Foton-M4 had entered orbit as planned and, according to its flight program, it had conducted turning on and off all systems, had established necessary attitude control and had initiated some of the scientific experiments. All its onboard systems had functioned properly. At the same time, after several orbits, communications between the ground control complex and the spacecraft via the command-issuing channel had been interrupted, the statement read. The telemetry on the functioning of all systems onboard the spacecraft had continued coming and had been processed and analyzed. This analysis showed that all service systems onboard the satellite had functioned exactly according to the logic of the onboard flight control system, Roskosmos said.
Is this spacecraft based on a Vostok design, or does it just look like it?
Quote from: Ronpur50 on 07/26/2014 12:56 pmIs this spacecraft based on a Vostok design, or does it just look like it?It is like the Yantar-1KFT/Kometa photoreconnaissance satellite. It has the Zenit/Vostok sphere with the Yantar-class propulsion/instrument module. Last year's Bion-M 1 was the same.
Quote from: Phillip Clark on 07/26/2014 01:03 pmQuote from: Ronpur50 on 07/26/2014 12:56 pmIs this spacecraft based on a Vostok design, or does it just look like it?It is like the Yantar-1KFT/Kometa photoreconnaissance satellite. It has the Zenit/Vostok sphere with the Yantar-class propulsion/instrument module. Last year's Bion-M 1 was the same.The solar panels are a new arrangement. Are they held in place at launch by those handles on top of the spherical section?
Like its predecessors, Bion-M was equipped with special "platform with means of separation" or PSO, mounted on top of the descent module. It was essentially an adapter interface designed to release one or multiple payloads from the main satellite.
Also the ring is designed to be capable of launching and deploying a secondary sat payload from the top and serves as payload adaptor. there are photos and videos showing it being used that way.
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 07/28/2014 04:00 pmAlso the ring is designed to be capable of launching and deploying a secondary sat payload from the top and serves as payload adaptor. there are photos and videos showing it being used that way.It was used that way on Bion-M n°1. Actually, I don't understand the difference between 12KSM and 34KSM...
Quote from: Nicolas PILLET on 07/28/2014 05:33 pmQuote from: russianhalo117 on 07/28/2014 04:00 pmAlso the ring is designed to be capable of launching and deploying a secondary sat payload from the top and serves as payload adaptor. there are photos and videos showing it being used that way.It was used that way on Bion-M n°1. Actually, I don't understand the difference between 12KSM and 34KSM...Is it to do with the amount of life-support systems?
Can someone say why Russia decided to fly these experiments on a separate flight, and not as ISS experiments?
I saw a report that it still hadn't raised its orbit?
Quote from: Star One on 07/30/2014 10:39 pmI saw a report that it still hadn't raised its orbit?In the article linked below, it is stated that the engine burn has been skipped and that the mission will continue in the current orbit.Link: http://www.spaceflight101.com/foton-m-4-mission-updates.html
Quote from: Lewis007 on 07/31/2014 07:43 amQuote from: Star One on 07/30/2014 10:39 pmI saw a report that it still hadn't raised its orbit?In the article linked below, it is stated that the engine burn has been skipped and that the mission will continue in the current orbit.Link: http://www.spaceflight101.com/foton-m-4-mission-updates.htmlThanks sounds like they have decided to continue as is then.
Quote from: Star One on 07/31/2014 09:15 amQuote from: Lewis007 on 07/31/2014 07:43 amQuote from: Star One on 07/30/2014 10:39 pmI saw a report that it still hadn't raised its orbit?In the article linked below, it is stated that the engine burn has been skipped and that the mission will continue in the current orbit.Link: http://www.spaceflight101.com/foton-m-4-mission-updates.htmlThanks sounds like they have decided to continue as is then.I guess the experiments have started; and to fire the engine would require the experiments to be paused?
Quote from: Stan Black on 07/31/2014 01:08 pmQuote from: Star One on 07/31/2014 09:15 amQuote from: Lewis007 on 07/31/2014 07:43 amQuote from: Star One on 07/30/2014 10:39 pmI saw a report that it still hadn't raised its orbit?In the article linked below, it is stated that the engine burn has been skipped and that the mission will continue in the current orbit.Link: http://www.spaceflight101.com/foton-m-4-mission-updates.htmlThanks sounds like they have decided to continue as is then.I guess the experiments have started; and to fire the engine would require the experiments to be paused?That sounds about it that some might be disturbed by the change in orbit.
A freeflyer like Foton has lower microgravity levels than the lab modules of the ISS, as the experiments on Foton are closer to the center of mass of the vehicle.
According to http://www.federalspace.ru/20875/, Foton-M landing is planned on September 1st on the territory of the Orenburg region.
On Aug. 27, Roskosmos suddenly announced that the State commission responsible for the Foton-M4 mission had reviewed the status of scientific experiments onboard the spacecraft and had declared them completed as of that date. The commission decided to conduct landing of Foton-M4 on September 1, in the Orenburg Region in Southern Russia. The spacecraft would thus fly 44 days instead of previously reported 60 days.
Landing time - at 09:18 UTC .
Quote from: Artyom. on 08/29/2014 11:08 amLanding time - at 09:18 UTC .Apparently it has landed at the prescribed time: http://www.federalspace.ru/20884/
http://www.federalspace.ru/20885/All geckos, unfortunately, died. Date of death and the conditions set by experts.
Has the specific landing site been identified, other than being in the Orenburg region?
