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Orbital Antares/Cygnus ORB-D Party Thread
by
Chris Bergin
on 17 Sep, 2013 23:57
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Yeah, lacking a funny title name, but nothing really worked without threatening to sound flippant about how important this mission is.
And with that....Party thread!
You know the deal. For chat, but it needs to be about this mission. Remember to pick your thread wisely.
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#1
by
Lee Jay
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:17
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I don't know why but I'm about as excited for this mission as any, ever. Go Orbital!
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#2
by
mr. mark
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:22
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So ready for this launch! Cygnus along with SpaceX's Dragon is an important part of ISS cargo delivery. So I'm really excited to see Cygnus' trial run.
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#3
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:23
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I don't know why but I'm about as excited for this mission as any, ever. Go Orbital!
Me too! Felt kinda sad that I had to note that the potential of the forum going to members only (no guests) was less likely than for the Cassiope launch, although I know that's a "new" rocket, that's been hyped up a lot, etc.
I hope there's a lot of interest in this ORB-D mission and I'm sure there will be.
Really nice company to deal with. Very professional and friendly.
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#4
by
kevin-rf
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:27
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I think Chris needs to swim the pond to watch this lunch!!!
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#5
by
Robotbeat
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:48
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Two Orbital employees liked Kegger or the beer keg analogy... Just saying.
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#6
by
Robotbeat
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:49
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#7
by
Robotbeat
on 18 Sep, 2013 00:57
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Intergalactic Kegger!!!
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#8
by
mr. mark
on 18 Sep, 2013 01:19
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Blast Off!
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#9
by
SpacexULA
on 18 Sep, 2013 01:24
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SpaceX and Soyuz bring the gumdrops to the party, but Orbital brings the French made wine barrel back to the ISS again.
Cygnus's PCM is the almost exactly the same size as the wine barrels the best French wine houses use to make their wine, coincidence? I think not.
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#10
by
wholmeswa
on 18 Sep, 2013 01:31
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Lots of respect for what Orbital has accomplished. Looking forward to watching this mission. Best wishes for another "nominal" mission. 😄
Wayne
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#11
by
Robotbeat
on 18 Sep, 2013 02:06
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#12
by
rickl
on 18 Sep, 2013 06:40
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I'm looking forward to it. I'll be at work when it launches, so I probably won't be able to participate, but I'll try to watch it if I can.
I especially like how Wallops Island (about 300 miles away from me) is turning into a genuinely serious spaceport after all these years of launching mostly sounding rockets, and testing the Mercury escape tower in 1959, which was its main claim to fame.
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#13
by
block51
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:10
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WFF RCC. Go Antares!
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#14
by
kevin-rf
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:13
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I just love how Orbital built an On Ramp to Space!
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#15
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:18
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I want a home office like that, block51!
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#16
by
mr. mark
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:26
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Just got up in California for the launch. Looking forward to a big success today!
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#17
by
block51
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:29
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I want a home office like that, block51!
It would be quite nice!
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#18
by
Hog
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:30
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International Space Station On Ramp
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#19
by
Space Pete
on 18 Sep, 2013 13:33
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Go Orbital!
Is about all I want to say.
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#20
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 18 Sep, 2013 14:33
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Please, we want >100 NOMINALs on this flight!
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#21
by
tigerade
on 18 Sep, 2013 14:36
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Watching on NASA TV now. Here's hoping for a very NOMINAL flight.
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#22
by
HarryM
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:12
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Nice launch!
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#23
by
Blackstar
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:13
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Our view from downtown Washington, DC.
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#24
by
Prober
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:17
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Gentlemen: We have Kegs in Space
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#25
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:18
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Our view from downtown Washington, DC.
That's very nice. Reminds me of the shot I've been desperate to get for years, of the ISS going over York Minster Cathedral, but have never managed it yet.
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#26
by
Silmfeanor
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:19
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Wooohooo! beautifull launch! Good to see those engines roar again. Great seperation video as well.
Go Orbital!
Looking forward to seeing Cygnus from the ISS
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#27
by
Norm38
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:19
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Fireworks for my birthday! Nice work Orbital, I'm very glad to see another U.S. craft on its way to ISS.
And yes Chris, the site's been fine from my end. Great work, appreciate it!
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#28
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:19
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Site was nice and busy but we didn't have to restrict anything. Seemed pretty smooth to me.
We also turned the threads to "unique views only" on the counter, so that's why the live thread count looks low.
Smooth for everyone else?
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#29
by
Space Pete
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:21
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I'd say that was a NOMINAL launch!
Great job Orbital.
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#30
by
baldusi
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:24
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I still like Oktorbital Fest a lot. But alas! let's enjoy the extremely proffesional work by OSC. The don't always get the respect they deserve.
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#31
by
Prober
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:28
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I still like Oktorbital Fest a lot. But alas! let's enjoy the extremely proffesional work by OSC. The don't always get the respect they deserve.
I agree 100%
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#32
by
neoforce
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:29
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I'd say that was a NOMINAL launch!
Great job Orbital.
I disagree... that was a phe
nominal launch!! Spell check doesn't like it, but I think I'll start using that spelling for phenomenal from now on.
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#33
by
DDG40
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:30
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Stuck on jury duty missed the launch. Good to see the nominal call video.
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#34
by
apollolanding
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:33
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View from KMIV, Millville Municipal Airport in southern NJ.
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#35
by
Robotbeat
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:35
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Woo! Solar arrays deployed! Congratulations Orbital!
Watch out, Station, here we come! Hope you're thirsty!
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#36
by
Blackstar
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:46
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Our view from downtown Washington, DC.
That's very nice. Reminds me of the shot I've been desperate to get for years, of the ISS going over York Minster Cathedral, but have never managed it yet.
I dunno the direct distance from our site to the pad, but it's over 100 miles away from here.
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#37
by
robertross
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:51
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Congrats Orbital! Looked like a beautiful nominal launch.
Really pumped for this mission.
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#38
by
Step55
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:54
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Beautiful launch! You made it look so easy.
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#39
by
kevin-rf
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:56
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Great job Orbital!
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#40
by
cambrianera
on 18 Sep, 2013 15:57
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Wow, congrats Orbital, beautiful launch.
Waiting for the opening of the keg: hope ISS crew likes draft supplies...
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#41
by
Tea Party Space Czar
on 18 Sep, 2013 16:06
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Congratulations to Orbital and all of their subcontractors on a gorgeous launch!
Commercial is working! Solar Panels are deployed...
Good Times!
Respectfully,
Andrew Gasser and the entire TPiS TEAM!
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#42
by
Salo
on 18 Sep, 2013 16:21
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Congrats!
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#43
by
Sunhillow
on 18 Sep, 2013 17:31
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I still like Oktorbital Fest a lot. But alas! let's enjoy the extremely proffesional work by OSC. The don't always get the respect they deserve.
Then in 2 days the new status of Cygnus would be "o'zapft is!" (tapped it is or it is tapped)
corrected: in 4 days
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#44
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2013 17:37
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I still like Oktorbital Fest a lot. But alas! let's enjoy the extremely proffesional work by OSC. The don't always get the respect they deserve.
It was a great suggestion, but you wouldn't believe some of the e-mails I get from, let's say, very conservative people.
I once got a four page letter telling me off for allowing "damn" to be posted on the forum!
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#45
by
russianhalo117
on 18 Sep, 2013 17:47
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oh my Chris. Im glad I'm not that conservative when comes to language. Although I do enjoy and prefer formal English in most cases, but even that cannot always be expected on a forum.
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#46
by
rickl
on 18 Sep, 2013 18:03
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What a great launch! I'm at work (lunch break now) but I was able to watch it. The picture quality on NASA TV was about the best I've ever seen.
From the update thread:
Could not make it down for the launch but viewed from Valley Forge National Historical Park right next to the General Anthony Wayne Monument.
I'm about 20 miles from there. I couldn't see it from where I am, but it's obvious that my horizon is too obstructed. I was afraid of that.
Also, last night I said I thought I was about 300 miles from Wallops. Checking Google Earth, it turns out I'm only 160 miles almost due north.
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#47
by
e of pi
on 18 Sep, 2013 18:13
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Congrats to orbital on a nice launch from what I saw, looking forward to Cygnus orbital ops. I'd also like to apologize to Chris for being one of the F5 monkeys this launch--I was stuck in a class where I couldn't use my computer, so I was hammering refresh on my phone to check the images. Sorry, but I know where to get my coverage.
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#48
by
BrightLight
on 18 Sep, 2013 20:35
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On some other sites, commentators have said things like American preeminence in spaceflight is in decline -
Atlas in the morning - Antares in the afternoon
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#49
by
edkyle99
on 18 Sep, 2013 20:47
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On some other sites, commentators have said things like American preeminence in spaceflight is in decline -
Atlas in the morning - Antares in the afternoon
Both powered by Russian staged combustion cycle, kerosene-fueled rocket engines (technology never deployed by the U.S.), one using a Ukrainian built first stage. When the U.S. was "preeminent", it would have been all-U.S. rockets.
- Ed Kyle
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#50
by
Lurker Steve
on 18 Sep, 2013 20:51
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On some other sites, commentators have said things like American preeminence in spaceflight is in decline -
Atlas in the morning - Antares in the afternoon
Both powered by Russian staged combustion cycle, kerosene-fueled rocket engines (technology never deployed by the U.S.), one using a Ukrainian built first stage. When the U.S. was "preeminent", it would have been all-U.S. rockets.
- Ed Kyle
Come-on Ed. At least there were plenty of solids to make you happy today.
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#51
by
Robotbeat
on 18 Sep, 2013 20:54
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On some other sites, commentators have said things like American preeminence in spaceflight is in decline -
Atlas in the morning - Antares in the afternoon
Both powered by Russian staged combustion cycle, kerosene-fueled rocket engines (technology never deployed by the U.S.), one using a Ukrainian built first stage. When the U.S. was "preeminent", it would have been all-U.S. rockets.
- Ed Kyle
What difference does it make? We're globalized now. Just because some of the parts are made in different places doesn't change the fact that the US is dominant in space exploration.
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#52
by
edkyle99
on 18 Sep, 2013 21:09
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#53
by
antonioe
on 18 Sep, 2013 21:36
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NO FROGS WERE HARMED DURING THE LAUNCH OF THIS ROCKET
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#54
by
psloss
on 18 Sep, 2013 21:42
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NO FROGS WERE HARMED DURING THE LAUNCH OF THIS ROCKET
LOL
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#55
by
kevin-rf
on 18 Sep, 2013 22:25
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Antonioe, that is nominally the most awesome party picture!
You should pack him into the next Cygnus!!!
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#56
by
spectre9
on 19 Sep, 2013 01:05
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Excellent launch.
Performance from the Antares was very visible with the rocket cam. Great view of Wallops on the way up.
A good day for commercial space.
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#57
by
baldusi
on 19 Sep, 2013 02:15
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I still like Oktorbital Fest a lot. But alas! let's enjoy the extremely proffesional work by OSC. The don't always get the respect they deserve.
It was a great suggestion, but you wouldn't believe some of the e-mails I get from, let's say, very conservative people.
I once got a four page letter telling me off for allowing "damn" to be posted on the forum!
I don't want to derail this party thread. But since I'm not a native English speaker (and by a large margin, I might add), could you kindly explain to me what's the objectionable word there? I'm genuinely interested (having gone to a German school makes you have a special place in your heart for Oktoberfest).
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#58
by
Robotbeat
on 19 Sep, 2013 02:24
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Baldusi, I'll translate for you: teetotalers are among us.
(FWIW, I rarely touch the stuff, never been drunk.)
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#59
by
Robotbeat
on 19 Sep, 2013 03:26
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BTW, this would be an awesome prank to do on Station:
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#60
by
rickl
on 19 Sep, 2013 03:37
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BTW, this would be an awesome prank to do on Station:
I was expecting him to try to take a shower.
Is that what it's like working for the NSA?
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#61
by
block51
on 19 Sep, 2013 10:54
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NO FROGS WERE HARMED DURING THE LAUNCH OF THIS ROCKET
Great picture!
Also, spotting a friend in the background of pictures like this (or even NASA TV or the like) still makes me overly nerd-i-ly excited!
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#62
by
kevin-rf
on 19 Sep, 2013 11:40
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I don't want to derail this party thread. But since I'm not a native English speaker (and by a large margin, I might add), could you kindly explain to me what's the objectionable word there? I'm genuinely interested (having gone to a German school makes you have a special place in your heart for Oktoberfest).
It is the associating the launch with a drinking event. That is a very big no no in today's US Corporate/Government culture.
The government just spent several million on the launch, which is very important to ISS, treating the launch as a kegger just doesn't sit well with the bean counters, especially the bean counters with an axe to grind against Orbital and space flight in general.
I think that is why Chris nix'd an excellent party title thread.
In today's hyper spin corporate/government culture all reference must be positive and build on the awesomeness of what ever they are describing. A rocket blowing up has to be described as a wonderful light show that exhibited a rocket ability for Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly (RUD). Try using an engine exploded and in some cases even NSF members will tear you a new one.
I for one am happy no Frog's where harmed during this party!
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#63
by
Sohl
on 19 Sep, 2013 12:46
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Congratulations, Orbital, on the successful launch and good luck with the ISS rendezvous demos!
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#64
by
Davp99
on 19 Sep, 2013 15:19
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Nice ..
But Still wondering what happened to the Live Cam shots...seems like they went away after the 1st Stage SEP.. ..the screen froze then nothing.. Small problem I know...still Congrats to the Builders and Launch Teams .. and the G. David Low Module..
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#65
by
Prober
on 19 Sep, 2013 15:42
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Nice ..
But Still wondering what happened to the Live Cam shots...seems like they went away after the 1st Stage SEP.. ..the screen froze then nothing.. Small problem I know...still Congrats to the Builders and Launch Teams .. and the G. David Low Module..
Kind of hoping that Orbital will give us a L2 treat with some video(s) in the future.
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#66
by
baldusi
on 19 Sep, 2013 17:20
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Baldusi, I'll translate for you: teetotalers are among us.
(FWIW, I rarely touch the stuff, never been drunk.)
I simply can't believe it. I'm all for firing employees on the spot for being drunk and responsible drinking. But that's a national festivity in Germany. It does shows a total lack of sensitivity for other nations customs. And quite a bit less damaging that many other (now legal on some states) social substances. A real pity.
So, when and if Bigelow's test launches on the station we can do a party thread with a 2L joke on it? Or will someone object to the sugar content, HFCS or even GMO content on soft drinks?
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#67
by
kevin-rf
on 19 Sep, 2013 18:13
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To add to the party, I made an attempt to find out all the Wallops orbital attempts
By my fingers it looks like:
Attempts: 35 (21 scout, 1 Conestoga, 6 Pegasus, 4 Minotaur I, 2 Antares, 1 Minotaur V)
Reached orbit: 32 (19 scout, 6 Pegasus, 4 Minotaur I, 2 Antares, 1 Minotaur V)
Sucesses: 29 (17 scout, 4 Pegasus, 4 Minotaur I, 2 Antares, 1 Minotaur V)
The record number of attempts was 3 in 1961,1964,1965,2013
This launch tied the record and the two more (Minotaur and Antares) on tap should shatter the Wallops Record!!!
Go Orbital, you are chasing the Wallops orbital record
*Fun tidbit, I think Orbital will place more satellites from Wallops into orbit from this year then have been launched to date from Wallops. Need someone good at math to confirm, I lack the sufficient fingers.
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#68
by
kevin-rf
on 19 Sep, 2013 18:15
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#69
by
rickl
on 19 Sep, 2013 22:12
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Thanks, kevin-rf! Just last night I was wondering how many satellite launches there have been from Wallops.
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#70
by
kevin-rf
on 20 Sep, 2013 01:02
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That was my best attempt collating multiple sources. Just because Jim has not corrected me yet does not mean I managed do that perfectly. I waiting for the NSF record keepers to verify and or make comments.
It seems amazing to me that with Orbital's up and coming Minotaur I launch with 28(?) satellites they have a chance to nearly double the number of satellites launched from Wallops. Of course I am forgetting the the three Orbcomm launches with eight satellites each.
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#71
by
Antares
on 20 Sep, 2013 05:06
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Sucesses: 29 (17 scout, 4 Pegasus, 4 Minotaur I, 2 Antares, 1 Minotaur V)
17+4+4+2+1 = 28 not 29.
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#72
by
kevin-rf
on 20 Sep, 2013 12:19
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Like I said, not enough fingers, thanks
Also, it was four (not three) Orbcomm launches deploying 31 (8,8,8,7) satellites.
A quick count gives me 66 satellites (includes 2 hitchhikers on first Antares, 31 Orbcomm, 4 for USA -13, ITV 1Balloon, USA 14, ITV 1 Balloon, 3 double launches (Ignored the HETE, SAC-B failure to separate)). There is a good chance I missed some hitchhikers.
5 launches this year, and if the next Minotaur deploys 28 and add in the final Antares flight, will result in 34 satellites in 2013 for a total of 95 Wallops satellites.
So if all goes to plan, 1/3 of all satellites launched from Wallops will be orbited this year!
1/3 of all orbital launch attempts have been made by Orbital.
3/4 of all satellites have been launched by Orbital.
That's some serious Wallops Kool Aid!
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#73
by
Joffan
on 20 Sep, 2013 17:16
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Late to the party, as usual, but:
Woohoo! Go Cygnus, great work Orbital! Waiting for the Canadarm to goose that swan!
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#74
by
Hog
on 20 Sep, 2013 17:25
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Anyone out there had "eyes on" Cygnus?
Today's 0532hrs Cygnus pass and the 0528hrs ISS pass was obscured by cloud cover
Next full pass comes Sept 21 at 0613hrs for Cygnus and ISS, but these prediction will probably update before the morning of the 21st.
All times EDT.
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#75
by
kevin-rf
on 20 Sep, 2013 17:35
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Thanks for the hint, heavens-above is listing my local passes at about the time I walk the pouch in the AM.
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#76
by
Chris Bergin
on 21 Sep, 2013 18:30
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Big day Sunday! Great time for people on GMT, but what's everyone else doing? Staying up late or getting up early?
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#77
by
Prober
on 21 Sep, 2013 19:30
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Big day Sunday! Great time for people on GMT, but what's everyone else doing? Staying up late or getting up early?
Party time late tonight
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#78
by
antonioe
on 21 Sep, 2013 21:47
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Trying to catch some ZZZsss... be at Building 2 around 0300 EDT...
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#79
by
Orbiter
on 21 Sep, 2013 22:30
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Has anyone gotten a glimpse yet of Cygnus catching up to the ISS in the night sky? There aren't going to be any passes for my area until October.
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#80
by
e of pi
on 22 Sep, 2013 00:36
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Posting this here, since it's really kind of of-topic for the main thread.
And your point is? So what if it is a garbage scow? What is to be disappointed about that?
As true as it is, and as critical a role as trash disposal is,
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#81
by
kevin-rf
on 22 Sep, 2013 03:09
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Isn't that has caused problems in the future?
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#82
by
kevin-rf
on 22 Sep, 2013 03:12
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We need some party music:
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#83
by
mr. mark
on 22 Sep, 2013 06:52
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Staying up late for this one (cali time).
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#84
by
R7
on 22 Sep, 2013 07:08
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Has anyone gotten a glimpse yet of Cygnus catching up to the ISS in the night sky?
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#85
by
MATTBLAK
on 22 Sep, 2013 07:13
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I've got a clear evening for a freakin' change - I should see the two of them as clear as a bell in a few minutes here above Auckland N.Z., according to Heavens Above.com!!
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#86
by
mr. mark
on 22 Sep, 2013 07:18
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We need some up party music and since this is cargo delivery.....
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#87
by
MATTBLAK
on 22 Sep, 2013 07:23
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Yes - saw them; ISS was reasonably bright, but Cygnus was just a pinprick of light quite close to it. And both were very low in the sky. Apparently, I get another view at 8:51pm, but even lower in the sky at only 13 degrees altitude...
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#88
by
Targeteer
on 22 Sep, 2013 07:33
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rendezvous aborted due to differential GPS problems
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#89
by
NovaSilisko
on 22 Sep, 2013 07:50
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Damn! Hopefully they can fix it.
On the bright side I guess this means I won't be staying up late tonight.
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#90
by
rickl
on 22 Sep, 2013 08:45
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I set my alarm for 4:30, and actually didn't sleep through it like I've been known to do...
*grumble*
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#91
by
Orbiter
on 22 Sep, 2013 09:34
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I set my alarm for 4:30, and actually didn't sleep through it like I've been known to do...
*grumble*
You're not the only one, I set mine for 5:00am on a Sunday morning no less.
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#92
by
Mapperuo
on 22 Sep, 2013 09:36
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Gah. Annoying. I'll miss Tuesdays attempt too due to work.
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#93
by
rickl
on 22 Sep, 2013 09:44
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Well, I just saw the ISS, anyway. It was a very unfavorable pass, only 12º at maximum. It was only about 10 minutes beforehand that I decided that there were enough breaks in the clouds to get dressed and look for it.
I saw the ISS playing hide & seek with the clouds, but I couldn't see Cygnus even with binoculars. I didn't really expect to, down in the horizon murk.
Edit: They first appeared in the constellation Cygnus, so I was hoping that would be a favorable omen.
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#94
by
arachnitect
on 22 Sep, 2013 09:48
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Cygnus is confused...
"Station is where?"image: flickr user onthecase
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#95
by
butters
on 22 Sep, 2013 11:31
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Hoping it's not feet/meters...
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#96
by
rickl
on 22 Sep, 2013 12:12
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Now it's full daylight and the sky is crystal clear. Figures.
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#97
by
Retired Downrange
on 22 Sep, 2013 12:48
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Hoping it's not feet/meters...
With GPS, a possible problem is that one unit is using degrees and decimal degrees, and the other unit is degrees, minutes, and seconds.
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#98
by
baldusi
on 22 Sep, 2013 13:01
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Hoping it's not feet/meters...
With GPS, a possible problem is that one unit is using degrees and decimal degrees, and the other unit is degrees, minutes, and seconds.
They had done simulations with hardware in the loop. I wonder what sort of incompatibility would this have been. I would guess that GPS use a binary encoding that's standardized.
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#99
by
R7
on 22 Sep, 2013 14:01
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Hey MACH, no sipping from the keg while driving!
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#100
by
kevin-rf
on 22 Sep, 2013 14:06
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I think this was a case of texting the ISS while driving
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#101
by
Targeteer
on 22 Sep, 2013 14:26
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I set my alarm for 4:30, and actually didn't sleep through it like I've been known to do...
*grumble*
You're not the only one, I set mine for 5:00am on a Sunday morning no less.
One of us stayed up all night to not miss anything... On the good side, I got to break the news of the abort on the website
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#102
by
Rocket Science
on 22 Sep, 2013 14:59
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I set my alarm for 4:30, and actually didn't sleep through it like I've been known to do...
*grumble*
You're not the only one, I set mine for 5:00am on a Sunday morning no less.
One of us stayed up all night to not miss anything... On the good side, I got to break the news of the abort on the website
I think this belongs on "You know you're a space geek" thread...
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#103
by
Hog
on 22 Sep, 2013 17:50
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Has anyone gotten a glimpse yet of Cygnus catching up to the ISS in the night sky? There aren't going to be any passes for my area until October.
I havent had any cloudless moments. We have gotten 3" of rain Fri/Sat so no joy.
Next viewing is 0440hrs EDT (for a short few second view) and 0614hrs for a full pass view.
I have AM viewings every day until Oct 3rd. Then PM viewings on the 6th.
Hopefully Mon. AM.
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#104
by
QuantumG
on 23 Sep, 2013 11:07
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I've just been made aware of a startling new theory as to what caused the Cygnus abort.
As I heard it, the year was 1991, Jullian Lennon's album "Help Yourself" had just been released and the track "Salt Water" was entering its fourth week at the top of the Australian charts. Fearing the trend may spread to the USA, as it already had to the UK, a cunning plan was hatched to add an in-flight update into GPS satellites, thus blocking the song from reaching success in the Billboard charts. The move was an unprecedented success but attempts to apply the technique on Ricky Martin's "Livin' la Vida Loca" in early 1999 failed due to a hiccup in the week counter field length, leading to at least 5 weeks of suffering around the globe.
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#105
by
Kabloona
on 23 Sep, 2013 11:23
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And then there's the "NASA forgot to tell us which ephemeris to use" conspiracy theory.
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#106
by
kevin-rf
on 23 Sep, 2013 11:55
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Standards, Standards, so many to choice from...
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#107
by
Lurker Steve
on 23 Sep, 2013 13:37
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I place the blame squarely on the Japanese.
We are just re-using the same equipment they use with the HTV. Why didn't they tell us to ignore the week ?
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#108
by
kevin-rf
on 23 Sep, 2013 14:34
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I thought it was Orbital using the 10 bit 1980 format instead of the 13 bit 1999 format.
Sounds like Cygnus is stuck in the 80's
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#109
by
Targeteer
on 23 Sep, 2013 15:07
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On a positive note for NASA about the delay, Mike Hopkins will now be on-board for the grapple which will give him first hand experience for another Cygnus in December and possibly a Dragon early next year. Training on the ground and simulations on orbit are great but nothing beats the real thing. I wonder if that opportunity for experience had anything to do with the decision to delay?
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#110
by
kevin-rf
on 23 Sep, 2013 15:14
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Nice of Orbital to hold tapping the Keg until Mike Hopkins arrives!
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#111
by
Nomadd
on 23 Sep, 2013 23:25
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I was having a similar issue with a GPS stream between a heading sensor and auto acquire satellite dish today. I wonder if Orbital would forward me that patch.
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#112
by
joek
on 24 Sep, 2013 02:38
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We are just re-using the same equipment they use with the HTV. Why didn't they tell us to ignore the week ?
Maybe because they can not "ignore the week" without violating COMSEC requirements?
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#113
by
Hog
on 24 Sep, 2013 13:28
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Had a decent viewing this AM at approx 0626hrs EDT, lots of moonlight though. ISS was at mag. -1.1 range of 948km at closest approach with a 19º elevation and Cynus was at 3.1 mag. Only a very brief period of elongation was visible without magnification.
Lower elevation than my STS-133 that had much better resolution between the 2 objects.
Too bad manned Soyuz uses the quick approach, possibility of seeing 3 objects pursuing one another in LEO.
If my pics show much of anything I will post them.
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#114
by
kevin-rf
on 24 Sep, 2013 13:52
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On closer inspection, looks like Orbital has a way to keep it's thread on topic....
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#115
by
Hog
on 27 Sep, 2013 19:01
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I had a much better viewing this AM at 0615hrs EDT as ISS was only 70kms away at -1.8 magnitude. Cygnus was 2400 km behind and was at magnitude 2.4 at a range of only 680km at 0619hrs.
Next ISS pass comes out of the Sun's shadow at 0525-30hrs EDT at mag.-1.5 with a min. range of 850km. Cygnus trailing, but the specs for it wil change vs now.
I only wish Docking was after Sunday AM. I have an ISS pass at a range of only 439kms at -3.4mag and its almost a full horizon to horizon pass that exits the shadow at 06:11:48, minimum altitude at 06:14:32.
Oh well.
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#116
by
rickl
on 27 Sep, 2013 22:43
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You must live pretty near me, Hog, because the numbers for my pass on Sunday morning are very close to yours. For instance, my minimum distance is 441 km and the times are very similar.
A comment on the update thread yesterday said that capture is scheduled for 7:15 am, about an hour after this pass. Does anybody know whether that time has changed?
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#117
by
Targeteer
on 28 Sep, 2013 00:04
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Folks in the US may want to check Heaven's Above or the NASA website for viewing opportunities tomorrow morning. I have 50 degree elevation viewings on both at 7 am that weren't showing up when I checked earlier in the week. I don't think the ISS did an orbit adjust but I'm not complaining about having a chance to see Cygnus before the grapple...
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#118
by
Hog
on 28 Sep, 2013 00:48
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You must live pretty near me, Hog, because the numbers for my pass on Sunday morning are very close to yours. For instance, my minimum distance is 441 km and the times are very similar.
A comment on the update thread yesterday said that capture is scheduled for 7:15 am, about an hour after this pass. Does anybody know whether that time has changed?
I live in Southwest Ontario Canada, our latitudes must be pretty close as we have almost the same minimum distance.
That 07:15hrs EDT time is good as per L2.
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#119
by
Hog
on 28 Sep, 2013 01:04
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Folks in the US may want to check Heaven's Above or the NASA website for viewing opportunities tomorrow morning. I have 50 degree elevation viewings on both at 7 am that weren't showing up when I checked earlier in the week. I don't think the ISS did an orbit adjust but I'm not complaining about having a chance to see Cygnus before the grapple...
0700hrs is getting pretty late, isnt the Sun up by then? Maybe not at your lower latitude, its risen already up here? But my viewing up here is at 0530hrs edt, so the next rev would be a 0700hrs so that would make sense. Thats a good elevation for a view
I cant check via Heavens Above as its down currently. I did check via "SPot the Station" and there is a short 1 and 2 minute view at 0700hrs when I inputted Kentucky. It had a 34º elevation.
3 minutes of exposure for Georgia at 22º-23º elevation.
And Columbus Ohio has a 57º and 58º 3 and 4 minute viewing. You gotta be close to Ohio.
Spot the Station-NASA
http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/sightings/index.cfm
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#120
by
Targeteer
on 28 Sep, 2013 01:14
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Folks in the US may want to check Heaven's Above or the NASA website for viewing opportunities tomorrow morning. I have 50 degree elevation viewings on both at 7 am that weren't showing up when I checked earlier in the week. I don't think the ISS did an orbit adjust but I'm not complaining about having a chance to see Cygnus before the grapple...
0700hrs is getting pretty late, isnt the Sun up by then? Maybe not at your lower latitude, its risen already up here? But my viewing up here is at 0530hrs edt, so the next rev would be a 0700hrs so that would make sense. Thats a good elevation for a view
I cant check via Heavens Above as its down currently. I did check via "SPot the Station" and there is a short 1 and 2 minute view at 0700hrs when I inputted Kentucky. It had a 34º elevation.
3 minutes of exposure for Georgia at 22º-23º elevation.
And Columbus Ohio has a 57º and 58º 3 and 4 minute viewing. You gotta be close to Ohio.
Spot the Station-NASA
http://spotthestation.nasa.gov/sightings/index.cfm
That's affirmative. I all hear about are the Reds, Bengals, Browns, and THE Ohio State Buckeyes
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#121
by
rickl
on 28 Sep, 2013 01:18
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I live in Southwest Ontario Canada, our latitudes must be pretty close as we have almost the same minimum distance.
That 07:15hrs EDT time is good as per L2.
If you're way down near Detroit and Lake Erie, we're almost 2º apart in latitude. I'm near Philadelphia, PA. It sounds like I'm east of the ground track and you're west of it, and it's just a coincidence that we're almost at the same distance from the ISS.
But this pass looks like it should be very good for both of us. If the capture time holds, I'm thinking that I might be able to see both spacecraft together. It may require binoculars to "split the double".
Edit: I'm referring to the Sunday morning pass that begins at 6:12 am EDT.
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#122
by
Hog
on 28 Sep, 2013 01:38
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Split London and Toronto, thats my lat. roughly, Woodstock is the nearest city.
An hour prior to capture is going to have them really really close on Sunday am. I would think they will be withing meters of one another.
I'm going to try again Sat Am at 0525hrs and see what I see, not nearly as bright and makes Cygnus easier to spot. And the moon is almost 1/2 as exposed as 2 days ago.
TARGETEER: I just noticed your location IS Ohio. I get all your Ohio AM radio up here at night, used to listen to Coast to Coast AM on Ohio 50,000 watt stations. Art Bel just started a new show called Dark Matters on Sirius XM channel 104, its on Mon-Thurs nights at 9 or 10 pm EDT.
Good luck all.
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#123
by
Hog
on 28 Sep, 2013 01:59
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Heavens Above is back up. Predicting ISS and Cygnus about 1:05 apart at 0526hrs EDT.
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#124
by
MP99
on 28 Sep, 2013 08:59
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And then there's the "NASA forgot to tell us which ephemeris to use" conspiracy theory.
NB Cygnus is using PROX data from the JAXA side, not the NASA side.
Cheers, Martin
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#125
by
Targeteer
on 28 Sep, 2013 11:15
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The ISS was bright and visible almost all the way across the sky. No joy on Cygnus because it was bright as described above with only the moon and a planet--Jupiter?--visible elsewhere in the sky.
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#126
by
Space Pete
on 28 Sep, 2013 18:02
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#127
by
Jarnis
on 29 Sep, 2013 06:41
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Cyggi looks much cooler. It is the shades...
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#128
by
Robotbeat
on 29 Sep, 2013 10:22
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ISS/Cygnus about ten minutes ago above my head:
(Second brightest object, ie it's the bright object closest to the center)
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#129
by
mr. mark
on 29 Sep, 2013 10:33
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Ok, up now 3:30am California time...
Getting some good pics from NASA tv.
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#130
by
Targeteer
on 29 Sep, 2013 10:39
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I had a good pass about 20 minutes ago but could not break out Cygnus from the station--not surprising given the distance under 50 meters. I almost missed it but looked outside what I thought was early--I swear HA gave the time as 621 local not 614 local earlier this morning. The combined pair flared spectacularly as they neared the horizon, brighter than I have ever seen the ISS.
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#131
by
rickl
on 29 Sep, 2013 10:50
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I had a great ISS pass a little over a half hour ago. I had my binoculars and also set up my camera on a tripod hoping to get a photo of the pass. But I'm no photographer. It's been ages since I took a picture of anything, and I couldn't remember how to set the camera for a time exposure. So I gave up and just watched with the binoculars. I would have been better off putting the binoculars on the tripod. I tried to brace my arms on the roof of my car, but the image was still shaky. I couldn't see Cygnus separately from the station. This pass happened while Cygnus was moving in towards the 30m mark.
As it passed overhead, I pressed the camera shutter button. I wasn't sure it actually worked, so I tried it again. I actually got something. It's a minor miracle that I had the camera pointed in the right direction.
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#132
by
QuantumG
on 29 Sep, 2013 10:56
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Rather than do this on schedule NASA has moved up the capture.. and so there will be no video.
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#133
by
spectre9
on 29 Sep, 2013 11:03
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Capture!!
Well done.
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#134
by
Silmfeanor
on 29 Sep, 2013 11:05
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WoohooO! congratulations to all!
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#135
by
Prober
on 29 Sep, 2013 11:22
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Congrats Orbital
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#136
by
Borklund
on 29 Sep, 2013 11:22
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Awesome, congratulations!
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#137
by
MP99
on 29 Sep, 2013 11:40
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And, congrats from me, too. W00t.
Cheers, Martin
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#138
by
Space Pete
on 29 Sep, 2013 12:03
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Congratulations Orbital, you overcame adversity and triumphed like true pros.
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#139
by
kevin-rf
on 29 Sep, 2013 12:34
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Now that Cyngus has followed ISS home, does she get to keep her?
Way to go Orbital!
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#140
by
rickl
on 29 Sep, 2013 12:48
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Second stage capture confirmed at 8:44 am EDT. Congratulations, Orbital and NASA!
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#141
by
Darga
on 29 Sep, 2013 12:48
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Woooo Congrats Orbital and Cygnus on the successful berthing.
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#142
by
cambrianera
on 29 Sep, 2013 12:58
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Great job Orbital,
Rock solid against any problem to deliver a outstanding performance!
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#143
by
InfraNut2
on 29 Sep, 2013 22:11
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I'm truly impressed by Orbital and their partners how they performed this test mission.
Such an impressive mission should have a "catch-prase" like the "famous" "Dragon by the Tail" quote from Don Pettit, like James Dean of Florida Today (
@flatoday_jdean)
suggested, but i have not come up with anything cool yet.
Given the PVGF position on the backside of the Cygnus the naturally equivalent expressions I could think of on the spot would be something like:
"Catch a Swan by the Tailfeathers" (really silly), or
"Grab the Swan's a$$" (really rude).
Surely someone here must have a better suggestion as to what catch-phrase Karen could have said?
EDIT: fixed up link
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#144
by
InfraNut2
on 29 Sep, 2013 22:46
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I'm truly impressed by Orbital and their partners how they performed this test mission.
Such an impressive mission should have a "catch-prase" like the "famous" "Dragon by the Tail" quote from Don Pettit, like James Dean of Florida Today (@flatoday_jdean) suggested, but i have not come up with anything cool yet.
Given the PVGF position on the backside of the Cygnus the naturally equivalent expressions I could think of on the spot would be something like:
"Catch a Swan by the Tailfeathers" (really silly), or
"Grab the Swan's a$$" (really rude).
Surely someone here must have a better suggestion as to what catch-phrase Karen could have said?
Orbital themselves just gave it a go in
this tweet:
Orbital Sciences @OrbitalSciences
@AstroKarenN Fantastic photo of #Cygnus. Thanks for leading the swan to the nest.
Really sweet/nice/cute/"Aawww...", but not much of a cool-factor...
Swan's
could be sort-of cool, like The "Cyggi" mascot in MCC-H.
EDIT: fixed up link
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#145
by
baldusi
on 30 Sep, 2013 01:23
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"Took Odette's hand?"
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#146
by
Chris Bergin
on 30 Sep, 2013 02:31
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#147
by
Prober
on 11 Oct, 2013 15:05
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#148
by
Lurker Steve
on 11 Oct, 2013 15:10
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#149
by
Robotbeat
on 11 Oct, 2013 15:24
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This is PERFECT, you guys! The next party thread has justification now for being called a Kegger.
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#150
by
kevin-rf
on 11 Oct, 2013 17:40
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Considering it will launch in the middle of the night full and provide a nice light show, how about a rave?
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#151
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 11 Oct, 2013 18:57
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Another co-incidence is that December 15 is roughly the same time when the Chinese will try putting their lander, rover & flag on the Moon (give or take 2-3 days either side....), so maybe we need to get drunk for the upcoming Christmas invasion of lunar territory.
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#152
by
robertross
on 24 Oct, 2013 01:47
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A huge send out of congrats to the teams at Orbital for pulling off such a great misision.
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#153
by
bolun
on 24 Oct, 2013 08:02
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Congratulations to Orbital.
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#154
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 24 Oct, 2013 15:01
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So Orbital has joined the music video crowd.......
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#155
by
Rocket Science
on 24 Oct, 2013 16:41
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Congrats to all the teams, well done!
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#156
by
Lars_J
on 24 Oct, 2013 16:54
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So Orbital has joined the music video crowd.......
A very cool video!
Congratulations to all the folks at Orbital!
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#157
by
rickl
on 25 Oct, 2013 01:38
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I forgot about the unberthing and missed it. Congratulations to Orbital for a great mission!
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#158
by
Prober
on 25 Oct, 2013 18:57
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#159
by
kevin-rf
on 04 Nov, 2013 14:24
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Getting some good pics from NASA tv.