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#80
by
Ben the Space Brit
on 27 Sep, 2013 13:59
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Yes it is very small; Cassiope is actually small enough that it could have been carried by the now-indefinitely-deferred Falcon-1e light launch vehicle.
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#81
by
smoliarm
on 27 Sep, 2013 14:00
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That Patch makes it seem like the fairing is much larger than it needs to be. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but is this true? Has SpaceX simply decided to offer 1 fairing size for simplicity sake?
SpaceX will use exactly the same fairing for the next mission, SES-8, where the payload is substantially larger than CASSIOPE. So this time they just test the fairing, just like the whole thing below
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#82
by
ChefPat
on 27 Sep, 2013 14:32
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As I didn't see it posted here yet, the mission patch for Falcon 9 Flight 6.
Where did you find that? Can you provide a link?
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#83
by
Lars_J
on 27 Sep, 2013 15:25
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That Patch makes it seem like the fairing is much larger than it needs to be. Maybe I just haven't been paying attention but is this true? Has SpaceX simply decided to offer 1 fairing size for simplicity sake?
Yes. (for now, at least)
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#84
by
kirghizstan
on 27 Sep, 2013 15:28
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maybe it is the patch but why would the design the base of the rocket to look like the f9 v1 instead of the v1.1?
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#85
by
dcporter
on 27 Sep, 2013 15:44
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maybe it is the patch but why would the design the base of the rocket to look like the f9 v1 instead of the v1.1?
Looks ambiguous at worst to me. I see three engines in a configuration that looks slightly more like a circle than a square, but doesn't look like the 3x3 OR the octoweb.
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#86
by
LaunchedIn68
on 27 Sep, 2013 17:58
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What's the significance of the three (white) stars?
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#87
by
Jason1701
on 27 Sep, 2013 18:01
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What's the significance of the three (white) stars?
I was thinking the three Falcon 1s that failed, except there are 6 stars total on that side.
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#88
by
mr. mark
on 27 Sep, 2013 18:07
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The 3 stars could represent the 3 missions to the ISS. Demo plus CRS1, CRS2? The five stars on the left most likely represent the 5 falcon 1 missions? The stars on the right represent the falcon 9 missions? The gold star represents launch point for the mission?
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#89
by
pippin
on 27 Sep, 2013 18:11
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5 F9s (left side) plus 6 Canadian sats (right side) maybe?
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#90
by
AJW
on 27 Sep, 2013 18:28
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Six stars for secondary Payload? CUSat-1 & 2, DANDE and three POPACS? The POPACS are passive, so maybe darker?
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#91
by
Lars_J
on 27 Sep, 2013 20:50
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Re-posting in here for discussion... Here is an image of the NOTAM for this launch:
(based on NOTAM data posted by StephenB here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1101683#msg1101683 and theKML file shared by dodo here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32685.msg1101804#msg1101804)
!CARF 09/183 (KZLA A2319/13) ZLA AIRSPACE DCC 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307 STAGE 1 AND DEBRIS AREA STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3133N/11934W 2848N/11910W 2809N/12000W 2300N/12000W 2300N/12005W 2622N/12104W 3007N/12119W 3133N/12113W SFC-UNL WEF 1309291600-1309291953
!CARF 09/181 (KZLA A2318/13) ZLA AIRSPACE DCC 2 ROPS AIROP DO-1307 DEBRIS DISPERTION AREA STATIONARY RESERVATION WITHIN AN AREA BNDD BY 3445N/12100W 3445N/12034W 3236N/11947W 3133N/11934W 3133N/12113W SFC-UNL WEF 1309291600-1309291930
So I guess the S1 recovery (if successful) will occur in the yellow area, otherwise the stage (and fairing?) will impact in the red area.
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#92
by
Joffan
on 27 Sep, 2013 21:18
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I read it the other way around, LJ. The yellow area is mostly at risk from range safety and other extreme problem scenarios; typical first-stage debris effects and the possible controlled return of the first stage are in the red area.
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#93
by
Lars_J
on 27 Sep, 2013 21:23
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Yes, you are probably right here.
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#94
by
cambrianera
on 27 Sep, 2013 21:28
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But if SpaceX is successful doing the brake burn the first stage will go downrange much less than usual.
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#95
by
smoliarm
on 27 Sep, 2013 22:08
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But if SpaceX is successful doing the brake burn the first stage will go downrange much less than usual.
May be it's like this - see attachment
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#96
by
Comga
on 27 Sep, 2013 23:11
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But if SpaceX is successful doing the brake burn the first stage will go downrange much less than usual.
My understanding wat that the first burn was just to kill off velocity as aerodynamic forces are about to build.
If this is just before significant forces would affect the trajectory, debirs would be landing much farther downrange.
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#97
by
Zed_Noir
on 27 Sep, 2013 23:21
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Would the ISS crew have a view of the launch?
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#98
by
mlindner
on 28 Sep, 2013 00:07
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#99
by
Avron
on 28 Sep, 2013 00:40
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love that patch .. Go Canada..
.. Go SpaceX ... CSA do a great job of product placement.. ok .. maybe not product..
