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Offline Lars_J

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #280 on: 09/26/2013 04:01 PM »
I would also love to see what one of these 1.1 first stage cores looks like going down the highway eiher from Hawthorne to McGregor or to the launch site. Anyone seen a picture like that? I wonder if they put the core on a flabed or something or just attach wheels to the core itself like the way construction companies sometimes move very long beams.

Here is a recent slide from a SpaceX presentation that shows how the v1.1 first stage is transported - before it receives the final wrapping:

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #281 on: 09/26/2013 05:16 PM »
And for anyone doubting their intention to mass-produce the F9v1.1, here are more pics from the same page:

It's hard to be certain, but it looks like the second core from the left is shorter than the one on the far left in the two pictures that show the F9 first stage cores.  Could that be the difference between a F9H center core and one of the outer F9H cores?


That core looks like the length of a F9 Block 1 core.

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And for anyone doubting their intention to mass-produce the F9v1.1, here are more pics from the same page:

It's hard to be certain, but it looks like the second core from the left is shorter than the one on the far left in the two pictures that show the F9 first stage cores.  Could that be the difference between a F9H center core and one of the outer F9H cores?


That core looks like the length of a F9 Block 1 core.

This conversation has happen'd before. Two equally long stages, one offset toward us a few meters, will appear to be different lengths from some perspectives. It's easy to see the offset near us, but difficult to see the one that's off in the distance. Do you think you might be mistaken?

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #283 on: 09/26/2013 05:57 PM »
Yes, you always need to take perspective into account. They are most likely the same length.

But then again, the FH outboard cores (slightly longer) are probably under early construction now.
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Yes, you always need to take perspective into account. They are most likely the same length.

But then again, the FH outboard cores (slightly longer) are probably under early construction now.

Chris Bergin's recent article identifies and numbers all four stages, and credits L2.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #285 on: 09/27/2013 05:33 PM »
I'm curious to see if a successful launch of the new Falcon 9 V1.1 launch vehicle Sunday will move Telsa Motors stock up as well Monday morning. Many people are saying that part of Telsa's rise has been to due to Elon Musk's cult status. Does SpaceX influence Telsa indirectly?

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #286 on: 09/27/2013 05:35 PM »
Doubtful. Tesla took off because they built better cars. But this is off-topic.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #287 on: 09/27/2013 06:53 PM »
Tesla is already overpriced and is completely unrelated to SpaceX.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #288 on: 09/27/2013 07:14 PM »
Tesla is already overpriced and is completely unrelated to SpaceX.

Tesla's stock price is irrelevant, but SpaceX and Tesla are very much related - lots of expertise/personnel sharing between the two. Just one example, the octaweb thrust structure is being robotically welded using the same techniques and robots used to weld the Tesla Model S' aluminum chassis.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #289 on: 09/28/2013 11:06 AM »

Atlas V, in contrast, has a boogie attached at the front and rear lift points (again to have similar load paths).


There is no bogie on the front of Atlas V, just a fifth wheel attachment that also serves as lifting frame.

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #290 on: 09/28/2013 12:17 PM »
Having spent the better part of the last 10 days building a scratch build model of Falcon 9 and Dragon, I have found it rather difficult to find accurate heights of the various stages.  And the over all heights of the rockets I have found are rather unclear as to which version, Dragon or commercial payload shroud it refers to.  Do we have any place that sets out the exact height of the first stage, interstage and second stage on the Falcon 9 versions?

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #291 on: 09/30/2013 02:31 AM »
Additional details from other people following the teleconference:

Tweet from Michael Belfiore @MichaelBelfiore

@elonmusk Recoverable F9 will have to fly 15% less payload for water landing, 30% less for land touchdown

EDIT: also:

Tweet from Douglas Messier @spacecom

Musk: finishing up test stand for Falcon Heavy in McGregor, TX. Should be a bit quieter due to config of test stand.

Tweet from James Dean @flatoday_jdean

SpaceX now targeting Q2 '14 for Dragon pad abort test from Cape. "It's going to go like a bullet."

Tweet from James Dean @flatoday_jdean 1h

Musk: upgraded Dragon flying next NASA mission "looks pretty cool."
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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #292 on: 09/30/2013 06:43 AM »
My free swag from University of Michigan career fair. SpaceX has my resume now, fingers crossed.

Dragon image is a peel away decal that leaves only the blue and black portions. Mission patch is real stitched, and free.
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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #293 on: 09/30/2013 09:47 PM »
Good luck and remember to drop us some tidbits once in a while after you get hired.  ;)

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I'm releasing the post launch presser audio and transcript from L2 (only hosted there so we could disseminate via our L2 membership), as we wouldn't want anyone joining L2 just for this.

Thanks to Yves!

Post F9 v1.1 presser recording:

https://mega.co.nz/#!zcxEkCwS!Eq6D0y0Lp8-HGExgpzDBSBwtq9M7WhGSzIg_c6EyYMk

September 29 SpaceX Teleconference Transcript

We worked a transcript and the most refined was via Quantum G, who has the transcribed a revised version on his site with our permission:
http://tinyurl.com/ou8wnbo
« Last Edit: 10/03/2013 11:18 PM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #295 on: 10/03/2013 11:07 PM »
Thanks to the L2 members who contributed and some missing parts where Elon just mumbles on and on and on. :)

Edit: I welcome any more corrections of this transcript than you can see.
« Last Edit: 10/03/2013 11:24 PM by QuantumG »
Jeff Bezos has billions to spend on rockets and can go at whatever pace he likes! Wow! What pace is he going at? Well... have you heard of Zeno's paradox?

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #296 on: 10/03/2013 11:49 PM »
Poor Musk, would hate to have my words digested like this.  ;D
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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #297 on: 10/04/2013 01:14 AM »
Quantum, you ever get any SpaceX IP adresses visit your website?  ;D

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #298 on: 10/04/2013 01:29 AM »
Quantum, you ever get any SpaceX IP adresses visit your website?  ;D

Why, yes :)

Jeff Bezos has billions to spend on rockets and can go at whatever pace he likes! Wow! What pace is he going at? Well... have you heard of Zeno's paradox?

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Re: SpaceX: General Falcon and Dragon discussion (Thread 9)
« Reply #299 on: 10/04/2013 01:58 AM »
Can someone post the transcript here. I can't access that URL.

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