Ракета-носитель «Протон-М» (8К82КМ-0000-0ТУ-У)
Изготовление и поставка разгонного блока (РБ) «Бриз-М» для запуска КА «Экспресс-АМ4R» (14С43-0000-0ТУ)
Изготовление и поставка головного обтекателя типа 14С75 с переходной системой для запуска КА «Экспресс-АМ4R»
Авиаперевозка РБ «Бриз-М» и транспортно-экспедиторские работы по отправке разгонного блока «Бриз-М» для запуска КА «Экспресс-АМ4R»
Подготовка и запуски РН «Протон-М» и РБ «Бриз-М» с КА «Экспресс-АМ7» и с КА «Экспресс-АМ4R». Проведение послепусковых работ.
Транспортировка трех РБ «Бриз-М» для запуска КА «Экспресс-АТ1, -АТ2», «Экспресс-АМ4R» и «Экспресс-АМ6»
Транспортировка четырех РН «Протон-М» с ГО для запуска КА «Экспресс-АТ1, -АТ2», «Экспресс-АМ4R», «Экспресс-АМ6» и «Луч-5В»
“Nominal Mission Lifetime” means, with respect to the Express AM4R Satellite, (based upon a Proton phase 4 performance) a period of 15 (fifteen) years after completion of the Final or Provisional Acceptance of the Satellite in orbit (whichever occurs first).
No signs of the satellite at Baikonur? It's only 3.5 weeks till the April 6 launch date.... (or is that going to slip?)
Noticed a similar tender for Ekspress-AM7? Looks like they are paying International Launch Services (ILS) to support this launch?$931,200http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/documents.html?purchaseId=931084&&purchaseMethodType=epThere are four documents; these two appear relevant:-Приказ_Закупка у ЕПExhibit 2_Express AM4R_рус расширенная версия
Launch dates for the next four Protonshttp://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_2014.html#04QuoteApril 23 UPDATE: April manifest statusBy the end of April, four Proton missions had solid launch dates set for the second quarter of 2014:Launch date Payload Customer 1 April 28, 08:25 Moscow Time KazSat-3/Luch-5V Kazakhstan/Roskosmos2 May 16, 01:42 Moscow Time Ekspress-AM4R RSCC3 June 5 Olymp (Luch) Russian Ministry of Defense4 July 4 Ekspress-AM6 RSCC
April 23 UPDATE: April manifest statusBy the end of April, four Proton missions had solid launch dates set for the second quarter of 2014:Launch date Payload Customer 1 April 28, 08:25 Moscow Time KazSat-3/Luch-5V Kazakhstan/Roskosmos2 May 16, 01:42 Moscow Time Ekspress-AM4R RSCC3 June 5 Olymp (Luch) Russian Ministry of Defense4 July 4 Ekspress-AM6 RSCC
Excuse me. I still got the old question. Is this the first Phase IV launch? Thanks~
Rocket's final assembly completed. Rollout is scheduled early tomorrow.http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=1&nid=3054
Uh oh...something went wrong?
Oh wow. During third stage?
Any clues on the NK forum?
During the last five years, in each year at least one Proton rocket or its upper stage suffered a failure (6 in total). And in all cases Russian payloads were involved.
Can you hear the commentator calling the anomaly in that video, as the engine was still burning. Fairing failure?
Quote from: Skyrocket on 05/15/2014 10:23 pmDuring the last five years, in each year at least one Proton rocket or its upper stage suffered a failure (6 in total). And in all cases Russian payloads were involved.Yes, makes you wonder if the quality control standards for the domestic launches differ from those for the ILS launches.
RIA Novosti now quoting both Roskosmos and Khrunichev sources as saying that it was indeed a third-stage failure, with the Roskosmos source adding it occurred 540 seconds into the flight.
Hmm total flight time until OU sep is 552 seconds
"Contact with the carrier rocket was lost in the 540th second after liftoff," Itar-Tass quoted an official with the Russian space agency as saying. "It is known that the nose cone did not separate from the rocket."
It seems this LV has much trouble with the 3rd stage. I believe you can actually see the stage explode at 5:28-:5:32 in that video...
Rocket Crashes After High-Tech Satellite Launch, Russians Sayhttp://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/rocket-crashes-after-high-tech-satellite-launch-russians-say-n106896Quote"Contact with the carrier rocket was lost in the 540th second after liftoff," Itar-Tass quoted an official with the Russian space agency as saying. "It is known that the nose cone did not separate from the rocket."
the last Proton launch failures linked with the 3rd stage were in August 1990 and May 1993 (foreign object in engine oxidizer feed line; propellants contamination).
BTW Roscosmos officially reported that the accident occurred at an altitude of 160 km over China and at a speed of 7 km/s - still a few hundred m/s short of reaching LEO. All objects burned up in the atmosphere over the Pacific.
"The only way to deal with the accident - consistent implementation of decisions already taken on the reform of aerospace industry"
In other news, Mr. Rogozin has woken up...... Quote"The only way to deal with the accident - consistent implementation of decisions already taken on the reform of aerospace industry"
In other news, The spherical tank with sawtooth skirt seen above could be the fuel tank from the satellite. Whoops, ITAR-restricted parts has landed in China.....
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/16/2014 07:23 amBTW Roscosmos officially reported that the accident occurred at an altitude of 160 km over China and at a speed of 7 km/s - still a few hundred m/s short of reaching LEO. All objects burned up in the atmosphere over the Pacific.Over China? Any idea how that could happen? I thought they always launched on azimuths to pass north of China (that's why ISS is in a 51 degree inclination orbit; that's the lowest they can reach out of Baikonur, even though Baikonur is at 45N, due to avoiding overflying China.) So, unless I'm missing something here, this looks like a guidance failure in order for it to be that much off its nominal ground track?
Interesting that it landed in China. The news I've read so far is that the vehicle, if intact, should have been in a ballistic trajectory into the mid-Pacific. The fact that bits of the payload have fallen in China strongly suggest an 'unplanned explosive disassembly' of the LV, the BRIZ propulsion unit and the payload.
TASS 0724 gmt"... the wreckage did not reach the earth and no damage to any third parties has been caused, Russian state news agency RIA Novosti reported, quoting the head of the Russian Federal Space Agency (Roskosmos), Oleg Ostapenko. 'We are getting confirmation of reports that the carrier rocket, the booster and the satellite all burnt in the dense layers of the atmosphere. That happened above Chinese territory. Given the altitude of the orbit where it happened, one can confidently say that nothing has reached the Earth,' Ostapenko said. "
Quote from: Ben the Space Brit on 05/16/2014 10:26 amInteresting that it landed in China. The news I've read so far is that the vehicle, if intact, should have been in a ballistic trajectory into the mid-Pacific. The fact that bits of the payload have fallen in China strongly suggest an 'unplanned explosive disassembly' of the LV, the BRIZ propulsion unit and the payload.Incorrect understanding. If successful, third stage drop zone would be WITHIN AN AREA BOUNDED BY 2515N/16000E 2600N/16045E 2330N/16335E 2245N/16248E BACK TO THE POINT OF ORIGIN. With premature stage shutdown, the crash point would be closer -- depending on exact T+xxx sec it woud be Japan, the Japanese Sea, Russian Primorskiy Kray or North-East China. With shutdown 37 seconds early (545 vs. 582) it occured to be in China.
This .kml output from a rough simulation of this launch using the Orbiter spaceflight simulator should give you the rough idea of the locations of the flight events
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/16/2014 01:50 pmThis .kml output from a rough simulation of this launch using the Orbiter spaceflight simulator should give you the rough idea of the locations of the flight eventsThe launch was from pad 39, not 24.
Quote from: catdlr on 05/16/2014 06:21 amRocket Crashes After High-Tech Satellite Launch, Russians Sayhttp://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/rocket-crashes-after-high-tech-satellite-launch-russians-say-n106896Quote"Contact with the carrier rocket was lost in the 540th second after liftoff," Itar-Tass quoted an official with the Russian space agency as saying. "It is known that the nose cone did not separate from the rocket."Does that translate into a PLF separation failure?
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/16/2014 07:23 amBTW Roscosmos officially reported that the accident occurred at an altitude of 160 km over China and at a speed of 7 km/s - still a few hundred m/s short of reaching LEO. All objects burned up in the atmosphere over the Pacific. Worth noting for those trying to recreate this, he didn't say 7.0 km/s, he said 7 km/s, which could mean anything between 6.6 km/s and 7.4 km/s. If anyone has sources who can provide a more accurate cutoff velocity, that would be very helpful.
Someone email Elon. A tweet about trampolines would be epic about now.
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/16/2014 06:28 amthe last Proton launch failures linked with the 3rd stage were in August 1990 and May 1993 (foreign object in engine oxidizer feed line; propellants contamination).May 1993 launch failure was with second stage.
Quote from: Antares on 05/16/2014 02:38 amSomeone email Elon. A tweet about trampolines would be epic about now. What's the insurance rate for a Proton launch these days? I would not be surprised if it exceeds the cost of the launch vehicle...
Quote from: simonbp on 05/16/2014 04:16 pmQuote from: Antares on 05/16/2014 02:38 amSomeone email Elon. A tweet about trampolines would be epic about now. What's the insurance rate for a Proton launch these days? I would not be surprised if it exceeds the cost of the launch vehicle...They have consistently done 91% of failure rate. Something slightly above 10% should be fair. If the satellite was 250M, and the launcher 80M, insurance should have been around 34M or so. That's not counting revenue insurance that's another policy entirely.
Quote from: simonbp on 05/16/2014 04:16 pmQuote from: Antares on 05/16/2014 02:38 amSomeone email Elon. A tweet about trampolines would be epic about now. What's the insurance rate for a Proton launch these days? I would not be surprised if it exceeds the cost of the launch vehicle...18.5% according to http://rscc.ru/company/opentenders/1313.html
What's the insurance rate for a Proton launch these days? I would not be surprised if it exceeds the cost of the launch vehicle...
That's not counting revenue insurance that's another policy entirely.
Video from Altai of second stage burnup and other objects -- might provide insight into failure.
What a neat video! Thanks for posting JimO.
Good catch -- reposts are always a hazard.
Quote from: PahTo on 05/16/2014 05:34 amIt seems this LV has much trouble with the 3rd stage. I believe you can actually see the stage explode at 5:28-:5:32 in that video...Nope, that's just the camera losing focus. The accident was at the T+9 minutes mark, right at the end of that video.To put things into perspective, the last Proton launch failures linked with the 3rd stage were in August 1990 and May 1993 (foreign object in engine oxidizer feed line; propellants contamination). The last time the RD-0210 series of rocket engines, which are used commonly across the Proton's 2nd and 3rd stages with only slight differences, had failed was during the twin Proton failures in July and October 1999 (*), both caused by foreign particles in the 2nd stage engines' gas turbine pump. (*) Ironically those failures at that time caused NASA et al. worrying about whether the Zvezda module of the ISS could be launched successfully and lead to contingency preparations of making use of the Interim Control Module (ICM), one subject of recent interest...
One thing is certain; ILS is slowly and surely heading towards bankruptcy.
Quote from: owais.usmani on 05/17/2014 05:16 amOne thing is certain; ILS is slowly and surely heading towards bankruptcy.This wasn't an ILS launch. It has been almost two years since an ILS Proton launch failed. ILS has had 17 consecutive successes since. - Ed Kyle
My point is that ILS uses the same rocket, and such failures will make any new customer think twice before they sign new contracts with ILS. Also the fact that the insurance rate for Proton will only going to climb with such events as has been mentioned already.ILS cannot continue profitable business with a rocket that fails 1-2 times every year on average.
Quote from: owais.usmani on 05/18/2014 09:33 amMy point is that ILS uses the same rocket, and such failures will make any new customer think twice before they sign new contracts with ILS. Also the fact that the insurance rate for Proton will only going to climb with such events as has been mentioned already.ILS cannot continue profitable business with a rocket that fails 1-2 times every year on average. I'm not so sure. Right now Eutelsat 3B is heading out to sea to launch on a rocket that has a 14% chance of failure, based on its record, quite a bit worse than Proton. Proton M/Briz M itself has a 91% success rate. Not up to par with Ariane 5 or Atlas 5 (which hardly handles commercial sats), but better than Zenit and Falcon 9, the other primary bigsat commercial competitors. Proton has been flying more than 10 times per year, even with the failures. For the price, it must still be seen as a good deal. - Ed Kyle
Proton M/Briz M itself has a 91% success rate. [...] better than [...] Falcon 9.
Quote from: edkyle99 on 05/18/2014 03:04 pm Proton M/Briz M itself has a 91% success rate. [...] better than [...] Falcon 9.This is a silly statement to make in such a definitive manner. We have very little idea what the success rate of the Falcon 9 is since there have been so few launches.
According to Andrey (anik), the turbopump assembly (of the RD-0214 vernier engines? Or was it the RD-0213 main engine?) was gradually dropping in outlet pressure while the inlet pressure remains steady. Maybe the turbopump bearings or turbines somehow got crushed?
"Debris falling on Heilongjiang was rocket parts"http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-05/18/c_133342487.htm
Now they are blaming the destruction of the bearing bracket..... http://russian.rt.com/article/34227
MOSCOW, June 11. /ITAR-TASS/. The May 16 crash of the Proton space rocket was due to a failed bearing in the steering engine’s turbo pump, the chief of the Russian space agency Roscosmos, Oleg Ostapenko, told ITAR-TASS.>
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/11/2014 10:21 am...but interestingly enough one active member at Novosti Kosmonavtiki says that usually such "conclusions" actually does not follow the real reason of the failures, citing many previous Proton and Soyuz failures in the past and even that of Soyuz-1 (!). Someone might try to comment on this..... Years later the root cause was re-established as spontaneous decomposition of the HTP.
...but interestingly enough one active member at Novosti Kosmonavtiki says that usually such "conclusions" actually does not follow the real reason of the failures, citing many previous Proton and Soyuz failures in the past and even that of Soyuz-1 (!). Someone might try to comment on this.....
Yuri Prokhorov, director-general of RSCC, whose fleet growth has been hampered by multiple Proton and in-orbit satellite failures in the past five years, said he remains confident that Proton will launch three RSCC satellites on three separate missions before the end of the year.In a June 18 interview here, Prokhorov said Moscow-based RSCC has been told that Proton would return to flight in September with the launch of a Russian government Luch data-relay satellite. Launches for state-owned RSCC are also considered as part of Russia’s government launch program, even if RSCC is operated as a commercial company.
