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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M - November 1, 2013
« Reply #1 on: 08/27/2013 01:43 PM »
What is a "Raduga 1M"? Is this a new bus from ISS?

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M - November 1, 2013
« Reply #2 on: 08/27/2013 02:02 PM »
Is this a new bus from ISS?

No, it is a Russian military communications satellite which is operated by the Russian Space Forces  ;).
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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M - November 1, 2013
« Reply #3 on: 08/27/2013 04:10 PM »
Payload: Raduga-1M 17Ф15М
Rocket: Proton-M 8К82КМ
Upper stage: Briz-M 14С43
Fairing: 14С75
Launch site: 8П882К (ПУ № 24)



Centre for Operation of Land-Based Space Infrastructure (TsENKI)
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Contractual period: up to November 2013
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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M - November 11, 2013
« Reply #5 on: 10/20/2013 04:54 PM »
Launch is now planned for November 11.


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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M - November 11, 2013
« Reply #7 on: 10/20/2013 05:49 PM »
"nformation on the spacecraft from Tsenki (in Russian)
http://www.tsenki.com/launch_services/help_information/deduced_loadings/view/?SECTION_ID=60&ELEMENT_ID=5936"

Possible this is not correct.
The shown image of this satellite is the same, als I built in 1/48 scale (rapid-prototyping-method), and shows the known Raduga-satellite.

Raduga-M must have be a differerent appearance and technics.

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M - November 11, 2013
« Reply #8 on: 10/21/2013 08:07 PM »
"nformation on the spacecraft from Tsenki (in Russian)
http://www.tsenki.com/launch_services/help_information/deduced_loadings/view/?SECTION_ID=60&ELEMENT_ID=5936"

Possible this is not correct.
The shown image of this satellite is the same, als I built in 1/48 scale (rapid-prototyping-method), and shows the known Raduga-satellite.

Raduga-M must have be a differerent appearance and technics.

greetings...
Soeren
Yes, apparently Tsenki has just reproduced data from Raduga-1 description from ISS Reshetnev
A different design for Raduga-1M appears on the last page of ISS Reshetnev review ("Sibirskii Sputnik") dated December 4, 2012  (see below) - it seems similar to Express-AM platform
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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #9 on: 10/22/2013 06:29 PM »
Has the satellite been delivered to Baikonur?

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #10 on: 10/22/2013 07:08 PM »
Has the satellite been delivered to Baikonur?

Yes, already for a long time.

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #11 on: 10/23/2013 05:12 AM »
Has the satellite been delivered to Baikonur?

Yes, already for a long time.

then why haven't they launched it already?  ???

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #12 on: 10/23/2013 03:22 PM »
Has the satellite been delivered to Baikonur?

Yes, already for a long time.

then why haven't they launched it already?  ???
Practically just  about every time they get ready to launch it a Proton fails before its launch. The other times involved the SC and its manufacturing and eventually its reprocessing. That is my understanding of this SC's fate.

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #13 on: 10/24/2013 10:55 AM »
then why haven't they launched it already?  ???

Oh, yes! What happened? ??? What happened? ??? Have those Russians broken again their satellite? ??? Is it quality issue again in Russian space industry? ??? It is a shame!

P.S.: Preparation of the last Raduga-1M satellite on Baikonur cosmodrome is going according to schedule.
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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #14 on: 10/24/2013 06:37 PM »
Hey come on!  :) you wrote "for a long time" so I thought it has been delivered since an year or something!  ;D

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Re: Proton-M/ Briz-M - Raduga-1M#3 - November 11, 2013
« Reply #15 on: 10/24/2013 10:23 PM »
Does the "end of September" equal to "for a long time"? I think it equals.

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Re: Proton-M/Briz-M - Raduga-1M #3 - November 12, 2013
« Reply #16 on: 11/01/2013 12:52 PM »
According to Interfax news agency, the launch is planned on November 12th (local time).

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Re: Proton-M/Briz-M - Raduga-1M #3 - November 12, 2013
« Reply #17 on: 11/06/2013 09:44 AM »
Transportation of Proton-M rocket to the launch pad is planned on November 8th

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Re: Proton-M/Briz-M - Raduga-1M #3 - November 12, 2013
« Reply #18 on: 11/07/2013 11:56 AM »
NOTAM for Proton 3rd stage debris
Launch time from 2330UTC on November 11
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J5840/13 - THE RUSSIAN FEDERAL SPACE AGENCY PLANS TO LAUNCH MISSILE
FRAGMENTS OF THE MISSILE FALL WITHIN FUKUOKA FIR AS FLW

FALLING AREA: BOUNDED BY FLW POINTS
              3250.0N15145.0E 3330.0N15240.0E 3100.0N15540.0E
              3015.0N15450.0E 3250.0N15145.0E

RMK/IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT
    THRU ABOVE AREA. SFC - UNL, 2330/0100, 11 NOV 23:30 2013 UNTIL 16 NOV 01:00
2013. CREATED: 07 NOV 07:14 2013

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Re: Proton-M/Briz-M - Raduga-1M #3 - November 12, 2013
« Reply #19 on: 11/07/2013 12:25 PM »
NOTAM for 2nd stage debris
Launch time NET 2345UTC on November 11
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P6283/13 -  ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD: B206  ARNUL-AKTAS, G489  TELRU-AKTAS. SFC - UNL, 11-13 2345-0030, 11 NOV 23:45 2013 UNTIL 14 NOV 00:30 2013. CREATED: 07 NOV 06:40 2013

edit: more precisely that would be for the 2nd stage and the fairing debris
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Re: Proton-M/Briz-M - Raduga-1M #3 - November 12, 2013
« Reply #20 on: 11/07/2013 12:29 PM »
NOTAM for 2nd stage debris
Launch time NET 2345UTC on November 11
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P6283/13 -  ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD: B206  ARNUL-AKTAS, G489  TELRU-AKTAS. SFC - UNL, 11-13 2345-0030, 11 NOV 23:45 2013 UNTIL 14 NOV 00:30 2013. CREATED: 07 NOV 06:40 2013

Andrey has put down the launch time as 23:46 UTC on the Russian launch schedule thread.  ;)
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Andrey has put down the launch time as 23:46 UTC on the Russian launch schedule thread.  ;)
Thanks!

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Proton-M rocket was transported to the launch pad today.
http://www.interfax.ru/world/news.asp?id=339598 (On Russian)
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NOTAM for first stage debris
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K0660/13 - ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS CLSD:
1.A113 TIROK-GISIR FROM 25KM TO 65KM
2.B822 BETIK-LUGER FROM 95KM TO 140KM. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2340/0015, 11 NOV 23:40
2013 UNTIL 13 NOV 00:15 2013. CREATED: 08 NOV 12:41 2013

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I have a feeling that people at ILS would be more concerned about this mission being a success than people at Russian ministry of defense.

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Finally confirmation that this launch will be broadcast live at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/ (starts at 21:45 UTC).  ;)
« Last Edit: 11/11/2013 05:28 AM by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Finally confirmation that this launch will be broadcast live at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/ (starts at 21:45 UTC).  ;)

And as soon as I wrote that they have removed the broadcast notice.  ;) Well they do broadcast the last Raduga-1M launch in January 2010 so let's see what happens....
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The rollout:

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This is 8K82KM Proton-M n.º 53541 (Short serial number) / 4925106752 (Long serial number) and Briz-M n.º 88532.


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This is 8K82KM Proton-M n.º 53541 (Short serial number) / 4925106752 (Long serial number) and Briz-M n.º 88532.

Phase I with RD-276 engines

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Hmmm, anyone want to list some facts about the spacecraft for the purpose of an article?

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Hmmm, anyone want to list some facts about the spacecraft for the purpose of an article?

Third Raduga-1M built by ISS Reshetnev
Platform: Kaur-4 /MSS-767 (same as Sesat and Express-AM) See page 11 of Stan's pdf ("PM-7 satellite bus")
Total satellite mass: 2600 kg (per Stan's source)
Payload for military/government communications tentatively includes C, X and L bands
A color picture of the spacecraft was posted upthread
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The spacecraft should be known as Cosmos-2488 after launch

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Great work guys, many thanks!

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The spacecraft should be known as Cosmos-2488 after launch

Radugas don't always get get Kosmos designations

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Finally confirmation that this launch will be broadcast live at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/ (starts at 21:45 UTC).  ;)

No sign of a webcast. Scrubbed?

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The spacecraft should be known as Cosmos-2488 after launch

Radugas don't always get get Kosmos designations

Radugas do not get Kosmos designation at all. Raduga-1M #1 was erroneously reported to be named  Kosmos-2434, but this report was corrected shortly afterwards. Except from this, no Raduga was ever designated Kosmos.

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I also see no webcast until now.

But... it´s very late (for me) at this time. (23.57 / 11.57 -shortly for midnight-)
I will see the next day for your postings and information.

greetings and thanks...
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edit:
Nice to see you, Gunter! (skyrocket)
I visit your webpage very often! (greetings from Saxony)  :)
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Finally confirmation that this launch will be broadcast live at http://www.tsenki.com/broadcast/ (starts at 21:45 UTC).  ;)

No sign of a webcast. Scrubbed?

Maybe that post about the webcast on TsENKI was a mistake and there was no webcast schedule after all.

Launch is schedule for 33 minutes from now. Just lets wait.
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We are now at 10 minutes from the schedule launch time.

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Hmm, I planned go to bed... but... the interest. ;-)
I cannot see the webcast from tsenki.

greetings...
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If everything went according to plan, the Proton-M/Briz-M with the Globus-1M (13L) satellite should be lifting-off from Baikonur at this time.

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Scanning the Russian news agencies for news about the launch.

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RIA Novosti is reporting that launch took place!

http://ria.ru/science/20131112/976165536.html (in Rusian).
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Thank you very much, Rui! ;-)

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Following the same pattern of a ILS commercial launch, this mission should be a 9 hour plus long flight.

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Thanks Rui! Good to hear that went well for the launch phase.

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Citing my article on AmericaSpace.com, I understand that this will be a 5-burn Briz-M mission, of very similar design to the Sirius FM-6 mission.

http://www.americaspace.com/?p=44969


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And we have confirmation of the separation of the Briz-M with the Globus-1M sat.

http://ria.ru/science/20131112/976166271.html (in Russian).

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Schedule satellite separation is expected at 0847UTC.

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Thank you, Rui!
It seems, that all was nominal.

Perhaps we will see some pictures of the rocket and the launch.

greetings...
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Currently one object has been found by NORAD - 39377/2013-062C (Briz-M APT?) is in a 404 x 35601 x 48.57 deg. orbit (epoch 03:24 UTC)
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And we have confirmation of the separation of the Briz-M with the Globus-1M sat.

http://ria.ru/science/20131112/976166271.html (in Russian).

Interesting statement that the payload has L, C, X and Ka-band. I don't think I've seen this information on Raduga-1M
before.
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Interesting statement that the payload has L, C, X and Ka-band. I don't think I've seen this information on Raduga-1M
before

This information was copied from Wikipedia: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0-1%D0%9C_%28%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%29

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Currently one object has been found by NORAD - 39377/2013-062C (Briz-M APT?) is in a 404 x 35601 x 48.57 deg. orbit (epoch 03:24 UTC)

This is consistent with the 2010 launch and suggests a 4-burn, not 5-burn, profile is being used:

 - burn 1 to  170 x 170 km
 - burn 2 to 270 x 5000 km
 - burn 3 to 400 x 35600 km, followed by DTB  (APT) separation
  - burn 4 to GEO

When 5 burns are used, DTB is usually in a lower apogee orbit.

However, the transfer inclination is 48.6 deg instead of 46.5 deg used in 2010.
The 2007 launch used a 5 burn profile (with DTB in 17660 km apogee orbit) and a 49 deg transfer orbit.
So, each of the Raduga-1M/Briz launches to date has used a different profile!

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Interesting statement that the payload has L, C, X and Ka-band. I don't think I've seen this information on Raduga-1M
before

This information was copied from Wikipedia: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B4%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0-1%D0%9C_%28%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%B0%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%29

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This is consistent with the 2010 launch and suggests a 4-burn, not 5-burn, profile is being used

Yes, four burns:

"Дальнейшее выведение космического аппарата на целевую орбиту будет осуществляться с помощью четырех включений двигателей разгонного блока "Бриз-М". Ожидается, что на это уйдет девять часов", - сообщил "Интерфаксу-АВН" официальный представитель управления пресс-службы и информации Минобороны по войскам ВКО полковник Дмитрий Зенин.
(C) Today's Interfax-AVN agency's report

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Perigee of the DTB/APT transfer orbit was at 0325 UTC, which is right on the expected timeline by comparison with the 2010 launch. Apogee is at 0840 UTC, 7 min before spacecraft separation, a good time for the final burn.
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From Russian wikipedia on Raduga-1M
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Также на борту устанавливалась аппаратура для работы в Ka-диапазоне, а также в диапазоне миллиметровых волн (ретрансляторы «Тор» с частотой 20, 42, 44 ГГц).
In military communications context, these frequencies are usualy referred to as "EHF band" rather than "Ka band"
 

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S/C separation took place as planned at 0847:13UTC

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Still no TLEs at this time for the S/C and Briz-M

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Here we are!

Object A: 39375/2013-062A in 34375 x 36211 km x 0.128° (epoch Nov 12, 1432UTC)  (presumably the S/C)
Object B: 39376/2013-0162B in 33000 x 35142 km x 0.172° (epoch Nov 12, 1432UTC) (presumably Briz-M)

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Comparing the achieved injection orbits of Raduga-1M#2 and Raduga-1M#3, it seems that the latter was more inclined and less circular:

Raduga-1M#2: 5 hours after separation from Briz-M was in quasi circular GEO orbit: 35772 x 35797 km x 0.07°
Raduga-1M#3: ~6 hours after separation from Briz-M was in a more elliptical orbit: 34375 x 36211 km x 0.128°

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Did I read correctly that ground control has completely lost all telemetry link with the Briz-M for the full duration of its flight (till S/C sep.)!?  :o

Yeah, I was kinda surprised as to how come a federal Briz-M mission has gone so flawlessly. Looks like the Briz-M did its "thing" afterall.

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Confirmation from Khrunichev that there was a telemetry problem:

http://ria.ru/space/20131129/980536553.html

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