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Offline spectre9

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SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« on: 08/08/2013 07:25 am »
Will SpaceX be painting fairings like ULA?

It's something I've just taken for granted seeing those nice pictures on the Atlas and Delta fairings.

Maybe the customer has to pay extra for a pretty fairing?

I would be disappointed to see plain white.

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #1 on: 08/08/2013 10:05 am »
Will SpaceX be painting fairings like ULA?

It's something I've just taken for granted seeing those nice pictures on the Atlas and Delta fairings.

Maybe the customer has to pay extra for a pretty fairing?

I would be disappointed to see plain white.

It's not paint, they're decals printed on a printer. Think like the decals people put on their cars. I don't see why they wouldn't.
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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #2 on: 08/08/2013 11:34 am »
Ok cool. I didn't know that.

I guess paint is too heavy. Easier to just print.

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #3 on: 08/08/2013 01:35 pm »
It's not paint, they're decals printed on a printer. Think like the decals people put on their cars. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Yeah, but decals on a car see 80mph tops.  NASCAR decals, okay 200mph.  But the fairing decals have to not peel off at MaxQ.  Must use pretty good glue.

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #4 on: 08/08/2013 02:28 pm »
Why do they have to withstand Max-Q? Once they've gotten off the ground they've done their job.

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #5 on: 08/08/2013 02:35 pm »
It's not paint, they're decals printed on a printer. Think like the decals people put on their cars. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Yeah, but decals on a car see 80mph tops.  NASCAR decals, okay 200mph.  But the fairing decals have to not peel off at MaxQ.  Must use pretty good glue.

It probably doesn't matter if the decals peel off once the rocket is out of sight from the ground.  The fairings are lost upon separation.  It just has to look pretty sitting on the pad.   :)
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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #6 on: 08/08/2013 04:27 pm »
Will SpaceX be painting fairings like ULA?

It's something I've just taken for granted seeing those nice pictures on the Atlas and Delta fairings.

Maybe the customer has to pay extra for a pretty fairing?

I would be disappointed to see plain white.

Yes, I don't see why not. Remember one of the F9 flights carried additional mini-sats, and decals for them were applied to the trunk. I'm sure they will put something for a paying customer on the outside of the fairing.

EDIT: I found one example... The CRS-1 flight carried an Orbcomm secondary payload (the one that was not placed in the proper orbit due to engine out) If you zoom in to this picture you can see an Orbcomm sticker applied to the top part of the upper stage.

EDIT#2: I found an image of the secondary payload stickers on the COTS1 flight:
« Last Edit: 08/08/2013 05:51 pm by Lars_J »

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #7 on: 08/08/2013 10:29 pm »
Why do they have to withstand Max-Q? Once they've gotten off the ground they've done their job.

Hell, you probably want them to peel off at max-q. Decals have weight too, you know! ;)

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #8 on: 08/08/2013 10:56 pm »
« Last Edit: 08/08/2013 10:57 pm by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #9 on: 08/09/2013 01:38 pm »
SpaceX fairings are painted white, I've seen no evidence of decals, yet.
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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #10 on: 08/09/2013 10:19 pm »
Why do they have to withstand Max-Q? Once they've gotten off the ground they've done their job.

Hell, you probably want them to peel off at max-q. Decals have weight too, you know! ;)

Fun fact, the decal weight is often book kept as "payload system weight" along with the spacecraft for the total weight the vehicle is contracted to loft.

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #11 on: 09/10/2013 01:01 pm »
Is that the stars and stripes I see?

I guess that answers this question.  :D

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #12 on: 09/10/2013 02:08 pm »
It's not paint, they're decals printed on a printer. Think like the decals people put on their cars. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Yeah, but decals on a car see 80mph tops.  NASCAR decals, okay 200mph.  But the fairing decals have to not peel off at MaxQ.  Must use pretty good glue.
Vinyl decalcs are used even to (fully) cover super fast sail boats hulls like Volvo Ocean Race. And they get hit by water constantly. And their weight is very low, otherwise they would not be used on racing sailboats.

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #13 on: 09/12/2013 04:59 pm »
It looks like the newest F9v1.1 images at the pad resolve this issue - see them here: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=31734.msg1095903#msg1095903

Yes, there are payload stickers on the fairing - for the primary and 5 secondary payloads.
« Last Edit: 09/12/2013 05:05 pm by Lars_J »

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Re: SpaceX payload fairing imagery
« Reply #14 on: 11/25/2013 05:33 am »
Further payload fairing imagery/stickers, from SES-8: (quite a large logo!)

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