Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : RCM (RADARSAT) : Vandenberg : June 12, 2019 - DISCUSSION  (Read 103644 times)

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Why would they only postpone Radarsat because of the risk of another hydraulic pump failure, but still launch Iridium (11 January), Nusantara Satu (planned for 22 February) and DM1 (planned for 2 March)?
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Both Iridium and Nusantara Satu are ASDS-type landings. The hydraulic pump failure occurred on a RTLS-type mission, which has different flight profile and different landing profile. So, it is not unreasonable to suggest this failure mode does not apply to ASDS. Yes, this is speculation - un-grounded - just like your variant. We both do not know the necessary facts (and never will).
In contrast, your last example, SpX-DM1, does not belong to the group for sure, because it's a high profile mission where the schedule - when set - does have very high priority. In other words, SpaceX will definitely prefer to risk the booster landing over another launch delay.

It seems to me you still missing the point (or, likely, I did not do good job with explaining it):
I am NOT trying to say my explanation is right, nor his explanation is wrong - no.
Neither I am trying to say my explanation is better than his.
I gave my variant just to show that his is not the only one.

Most ridiculous argument I have read. That the grid fin hydraulic pump would be guaranteed to fail or not depending on the direction the booster was flying???

The fact is NASA and other customers don't care if the booster lands or not, they are just concerned that their payload gets to the desired orbit.
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Why would they only postpone Radarsat because of the risk of another hydraulic pump failure, but still launch Iridium (11 January), Nusantara Satu (planned for 22 February) and DM1 (planned for 2 March)?
Because:
Both Iridium and Nusantara Satu are ASDS-type landings. The hydraulic pump failure occurred on a RTLS-type mission, which has different flight profile and different landing profile. So, it is not unreasonable to suggest this failure mode does not apply to ASDS. Yes, this is speculation - un-grounded - just like your variant. We both do not know the necessary facts (and never will).
In contrast, your last example, SpX-DM1, does not belong to the group for sure, because it's a high profile mission where the schedule - when set - does have very high priority. In other words, SpaceX will definitely prefer to risk the booster landing over another launch delay.

It seems to me you still missing the point (or, likely, I did not do good job with explaining it):
I am NOT trying to say my explanation is right, nor his explanation is wrong - no.
Neither I am trying to say my explanation is better than his.
I gave my variant just to show that his is not the only one.

Most ridiculous argument I have read. That the grid fin hydraulic pump would be guaranteed to fail or not depending on the direction the booster was flying???

The fact is NASA and other customers don't care if the booster lands or not, they are just concerned that their payload gets to the desired orbit.

Anyway, according to the post DM-1 press conference, they have fixed the problem with the stalling hydraulic pump by adding a small pressure relief valve.

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SFN shows Radarsat mission slated for 2nd quarter now.

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The Canadian Space Agency just called me to confirm the launch window is now May 16-22.
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That's a big jump to the right.  But it doesn't look like there is any other schedule impact as the only other SpaceX Vandy launch this year is NET December.

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http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/satellites/radarsat/what-is-rcm.asp

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Launch window: May 16-22, 2019
Status: Awaiting launch

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Canadian Space Agency,  What is the RCM?

Launch window: May 16-22, 2019

Status: Awaiting launch

http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/satellites/radarsat/what-is-rcm.asp

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Is it safe to assume DIDO-1 will launch as a secondary payload on this?

I'm basing that on how DIDO-1 launch date has been moving along with Radarsat launch in the US Launch Schedule thread.

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Is it safe to assume DIDO-1 will launch as a secondary payload on this?

I'm basing that on how DIDO-1 launch date has been moving along with Radarsat launch in the US Launch Schedule thread.

I would be surprised if there were any secondary payloads on this mission.  I haven't seen any information about DIDO 1.

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 RCM spacecraft are prepared for vibration testing in the MDA facilities. (Credit:  Canadian Space Agency)
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RCM spacecraft are prepared for vibration testing in the MDA facilities. (Credit:  Canadian Space Agency)
That's an old photo, right? I mean, the sats should be at VAFB now.

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RCM spacecraft are prepared for vibration testing in the MDA facilities. (Credit:  Canadian Space Agency)
That's an old photo, right? I mean, the sats should be at VAFB now.

For sure. That image is from 2017. It is missing the SAR antenna and solar arrays in this picture. Also, there was a post on the CSA blog late last year about them being delivered to California for launch prep.

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Opportunity to witness the launch of the RADARSAT Constellation Mission in California
From: Canadian Space Agency

Media advisory
Longueuil, Quebec, April 16, 2019 — The satellites of the RADARSAT Constellation Mission (RCM) are scheduled to launch into space at the end of May or early June 2019, aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket from the Vandenberg Air Force Base in California.

Media representatives are invited to witness the launch in person. As the launch site is on an American air force base, each guest must be cleared by U.S. Air Force security to attend the launch.

To begin the accreditation process, media representatives who are interested must send an email to the Canadian Space Agency's Media Relations Office at [email protected] no later than April 18, 2019, at noon (ET).

What:
Witness the launch of the RCM

Date:
End of May or early June 2019 (exact launch date TBC)

Where:
Vandenberg Air Force Base, California

Link:
To learn more about the RCM

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Spaceflight Now schedule shows this slated for June. Also, Teslarati says "word on the ground is that mid-to-late June is now a more likely target".

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40 days ‘til lift off! 🇨🇦’s RADARSAT Constellation Mission is scheduled to launch on June 11 from Vandenberg, California. Stay tuned for more information about the mission! http://asc-csa.gc.ca/RCM . 🛰️🛰️🛰️  Photo: CSA/@MDA_maxar #RCM #EO #EarthObservation #CDNSpace

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SpaceX’s next West Coast Falcon 9 landing could be decided by baby seals

By Eric Ralph Posted on May 7, 2019

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-confirms-falcon-9-launch-date-radarsat/

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From https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/r/rcm

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Orbit: Sun-synchronous circular orbit (dawn-dusk mission), nominal altitude = 592.7 km, inclination = 97.74º, period = 96.4 minutes. The three spacecraft will be spaced at equal distances on the same orbital plane (120º apart) with a repeat cycle of 179 orbits/12days. The orbit selection allows revisiting the same area for coherent change detection every four days, which should enable a whole suite of interferometric applications.

The satellites will be equally spaced in the same orbital plane, following each other with a time separation of ~32 minutes. While the ground track of each satellite is slightly shifted due to the Earth rotation, this orbital configuration provides the required ground coverage over the Canadian maritime zones using the medium resolution ScanSAR mode.

Orbital tube of 100 m in radius.

Following from the above, the accompanying table lists Local Time of Descending Node (LTDN) as 06:00 +/- 15 minutes.

SSO launches from Vandenberg are to the south--the first equatorial crossing on the way to orbit would be a not-quite descending node.

Does this imply a launch circa 07:00 Pacific Daylight Time (remember, USA Daylight Savings Time), which leads to an equivalent time of circa 1400 UTC?

EDIT 6/2:
The launch time is approximately 10:17 a.m. E(D)T = 7:17 a.m. PDT = 1417 UTC!
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SpaceX’s next West Coast Falcon 9 landing could be decided by baby seals

By Eric Ralph Posted on May 7, 2019

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-confirms-falcon-9-launch-date-radarsat/

If they decide not to land because of the seals, I'm going to predict that SpaceX will do another near-shore drone ship landing (between 25 and 40 kilometers downrange).

But rest assured, it'll still be spectacular, given that you can still see the booster land from a high hill.
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