Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 v1.1 - Thaicom 6 - DISCUSSION THREAD (Read 271826 times)

Robotbeat · « **Reply #500 on:** 01/15/2014 04:33 pm »

Just wondering, how much do we think the spacecraft cost? It's made by Orbital, right? Is it safe to assume Orbital got much more revenue from this flight (and SES-8) than SpaceX did?

Lars_J · « **Reply #501 on:** 01/15/2014 04:35 pm »

Why would it be a safe assumption?

vtirag · « **Reply #502 on:** 01/15/2014 04:43 pm »

Quote from: Robotbeat on 01/15/2014 04:33 pm

Just wondering, how much do we think the spacecraft cost? It's made by Orbital, right? Is it safe to assume Orbital got much more revenue from this flight (and SES-8) than SpaceX did?

Thaicom said they secured $160 million for the project. That is for spacecraft + launcher + insurance. We have a rough idea how much the F9 1.1 cost them (guessing ~$55 million). What is the insurance rate on a launch like this?

Lars_J · « **Reply #503 on:** 01/15/2014 04:52 pm »

Quote from: vtirag on 01/15/2014 04:43 pm

Quote from: Robotbeat on 01/15/2014 04:33 pm
Just wondering, how much do we think the spacecraft cost? It's made by Orbital, right? Is it safe to assume Orbital got much more revenue from this flight (and SES-8) than SpaceX did?

Thaicom said they secured $160 million for the project. That is for spacecraft + launcher + insurance. We have a rough idea how much the F9 1.1 cost them (guessing ~$55 million). What is the insurance rate on a launch like this?

Don't forget launch integration costs... Some (or more than all) of that may be offset by being an early customer, but how much is not obvious to us outsiders. We just don't know.

Robotbeat · « **Reply #504 on:** 01/15/2014 04:58 pm »

Quote from: Lars_J on 01/15/2014 04:52 pm

Quote from: vtirag on 01/15/2014 04:43 pm
Quote from: Robotbeat on 01/15/2014 04:33 pm
Just wondering, how much do we think the spacecraft cost? It's made by Orbital, right? Is it safe to assume Orbital got much more revenue from this flight (and SES-8) than SpaceX did?

Thaicom said they secured $160 million for the project. That is for spacecraft + launcher + insurance. We have a rough idea how much the F9 1.1 cost them (guessing ~$55 million). What is the insurance rate on a launch like this?

Don't forget launch integration costs... Some (or more than all) of that may be offset by being an early customer, but how much is not obvious to us outsiders. We just don't know.

I think that they probably got a better deal ($20-30 million? Isn't that what Orbital got?), since this is an early Falcon 9 v1.1 launch. And insurance rate is low, from what I heard at that one Singapore satellite conference, maybe 5-10% so $8-16 million. And no, I don't think integration was a big cost, here.

I'm thinking Orbital probably got $75-100 million on this flight, more than SpaceX got.