Author Topic: LIVE: SpaceX Dragon CRS-2 (SpX-2) EOM (Unberth, Entry, Splashdown) UPDATES  (Read 149934 times)

Offline Space Pete

Some images of Dragon in port now up at the NASA Expedition 35 image gallery (pages 3, 4 and 5):

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/station/crew-35/inflight/ndxpage3.html
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Offline yg1968

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Here is another partial account of the post-landing press conference:
http://www.americaspace.com/?p=33468
http://www.americaspace.com/?p=33503
« Last Edit: 04/01/2013 09:00 pm by yg1968 »

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Is there any place to see the actual news conference?

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HA! So it's another contractor-supplier communication issue that caused all that trouble on the Dragon......  ::)

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Musk pointed to a subtle design change and a lapse in qualification testing as the cause of three sticky check valves in the Dragon thruster system that prompted a one-day delay in the supply vessel’s scheduled March 2 rendezvous with the space station. All three valves were forced open with the rapid uplink of a software change that increased pressure in the system.

SpaceX was not made aware of the design change by its supplier, and while company’s engineers conducted a pre-mission low-pressure functionality test of the hardware, they elected to skip a high-pressure test that might have revealed the problem, he said.

“It was kind of the spacecraft equivalent of the Heimlich maneuver that got the valve unstuck. It was definitely a worrisome time,” Musk said. “Now, obviously [we] and the supplier are extremely sensitive to even nuanced changes.”

From Aviation Week via the March 28 teleconference: http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/asd_04_01_2013_p01-02-564428.xml
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HA! So it's another contractor-supplier communication issue that caused all that trouble on the Dragon......  ::)

Do you care to clarify what you mean by your HA and ::)?

This is not exactly news, if you listened to the press conference.

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HA! So it's another contractor-supplier communication issue that caused all that trouble on the Dragon......  ::)

Do you care to clarify what you mean by your HA and ::)?

This is not exactly news, if you listened to the press conference.

It's a common point of failure in engineering that large and small companies have fallen on - so SpaceX is certainly not immune to this (and maybe another reason for in-house engineering, as they do). I'm just noting this observation.....  ;)

And I didn't listen to the conference (it's late at night at where I live, plus I was busy covering the Soyuz that day), nor I have seen this being explicitly mentioned clearly on NSF, hence my post. 
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HA! So it's another contractor-supplier communication issue that caused all that trouble on the Dragon......  ::)

Do you care to clarify what you mean by your HA and ::)?

This is not exactly news, if you listened to the press conference.

It's a common point of failure in engineering that large and small companies have fallen on - so SpaceX is certainly not immune to this (and maybe another reason for in-house engineering, as they do). I'm just noting this observation.....  ;)

And I didn't listen to the conference (it's late at night at where I live, plus I was busy covering the Soyuz that day), nor I have seen this being explicitly mentioned clearly on NSF, hence my post. 

I think it's bee mentioned 3 or 4 times in various spacex general threads and in this thread.
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SpaceX was not made aware of the design change by its supplier, and while company’s engineers conducted a pre-mission low-pressure functionality test of the hardware, they elected to skip a high-pressure test that might have revealed the problem, he said.

Would anyone have any insight whether this would be a component-level low-pressure test of each delivered valve, or pre-launch acceptance testing for the assembled Dragon?

cheers, Martin

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SpaceX was not made aware of the design change by its supplier, and while company’s engineers conducted a pre-mission low-pressure functionality test of the hardware, they elected to skip a high-pressure test that might have revealed the problem, he said.

Would anyone have any insight whether this would be a component-level low-pressure test of each delivered valve, or pre-launch acceptance testing for the assembled Dragon?

cheers, Martin

Elon said it was a low-pressure test of the entire system, IIRC, and as a result of the failure they will now do a high-pressure test of each system.

Component-level acceptance testing would have been done by the vendor. Why the valves passed vendor acceptance testing and a low-pressure test on the assembled system but failed in flight is an interesting question.
« Last Edit: 04/02/2013 03:34 pm by Kabloona »

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... Why the valves passed vendor acceptance testing and a low-pressure test on the assembled system but failed in flight is an interesting question.
He said both the vendor and SpaceX did low pressure acceptance tests and, I believe, they would both now do high pressure tests.
« Last Edit: 04/02/2013 03:47 pm by DavidH »
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Here is the (zipped) mp3 file of the March 27th SpaceX/NASA teleconference:
http://www.gamefront.com/files/23148885/SpaceX+Post-Landing+Teleconference+March+27+2013.zip
« Last Edit: 04/03/2013 01:56 pm by yg1968 »

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General discussion thread is locked, here's an article that sheds some light on the trunk's coating

http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/04/02/high-tech-coating-protects-the-dragon-spacecraft-in-orbit/
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