Quote from: Andrew_W on 02/21/2013 10:25 pmAnother benefit of using a crater is the probability of a meteorite hit on the same spot compared to a spot that has not been hit by a meteorite. Any statistician can tell you the odds are very low for a second strike in the same crater.Sounds like the theory that if you throw 5 heads in a row the chances of you throwing tails next time is increased.Right, the OP is repeating a fallacy. In the real world, "the dice have no memory."
Another benefit of using a crater is the probability of a meteorite hit on the same spot compared to a spot that has not been hit by a meteorite. Any statistician can tell you the odds are very low for a second strike in the same crater.Sounds like the theory that if you throw 5 heads in a row the chances of you throwing tails next time is increased.
Terraforming makes no sense to me as far as making humans a multi-planetary species is concerned. It makes more sense when you want to make, say, the square-lipped rhinoceros a multi-planetary species - which might be a cool thing to do at some point in the far future.Any large-scale human activity is going to change the atmosphere, and a tenuous atmosphere will show the changes more. Leaks and exhaust will introduce substances that weren't there before. Doing anything big-time on Mars is going to change it, if only small-time. The only way to avoid it is to do almost nothing. Will we always be willing to accept that constraint?
To the OP: Oh, absolutely.
Quote from: JohnFornaro on 05/06/2013 01:12 pmTo the OP: Oh, absolutely. Thanks glad to find someone else on the same wavelength
Simplest approach to terraforming - mimic the way the Earth’s atmosphere formed, speeded up.
This approach is likely to need care.
Terraforming is likely to be a long term process lasting centuries
Our main options are:Just land humans on it and let it develop whatever way it happens to go
My conception would have large domes of partial Earth pressure, say twenty to thirty years after the first "primitive" habs and ISRU demonstrations of utility have become successful. High carbon dioxide atmo, add nitrogen and starter oxygen. Let plants do the work. Over the next two hundred or so years, continue to build carbon fiber structures with silicone glass panels, and gradually increase the area under dome.
Don't figure on getting the job done in less than five hundred years. You will have to devote considerable resources to bringing up people, machines, and knowledge from Earth.
> This approach is likely to need careNo question, but once you have decided to terraform, that means you have already decided that there is no alien life up there. I wouldn't start terraforming if there were native life up there. Any manned bases would have to be pretty well quarantined, by my take.
You have to consider the idea of self government long before the idea of terraforming could be undertaken.YMMV.
"oscillate" doesn't make much sense in this context. Can you rephrase it?If you're wondering if Mars can be terraformed to have enough pressure to go around without a space suit on, then I believe the answer is yes. There are very large amounts of carbon dioxide (and water) in the Martian ground, and if the planet would heat up sufficiently, the glaciers and rocks would out-gas enough that it's possible for the lowest parts of Mars to have higher than 1psi pressure.There are a few ways to accomplish this heating.In increasing level of difficulty:One is albedo management. You could sprinkle very fine black carbon powder on the glaciers.Another is to produce incredibly potent greenhouse gases from in situ salts.Another is giant orbital mirrors.The idea is that eventually the outgassing will increase the surface pressure enough that the heating becomes basically self-sustaining (since CO2 is, of course, a greenhouse gas itself... as is water vapor).