So I am surprised that discussions for this one is heavily focused on the F9.I would like to ask if there's a good concise article out there on why GPS Block III was delayed by so many years (a decade IIRC) and why the ground control system (OCX) was apparently the #1 contributer for delays?
According to this source: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/wiki/coresUSAF GPS-III-1 will ride core 1054
Sec. of the Air Force Heather Wilson is still giving a Dec. 18 launch date for the first GPS 3 satellite, on the next Falcon 9 launch. #spacelaunch18
Hans confirmed that Falcon 9 will be in an expendable configuration for GPS III SV01 during the CRS-16 post-launch conference.Additionally, "booster is in great shape and being integrated in the hangar", suggesting that it's the core spotted in 39A. He also said that the reason for the expendable profile was a customer requirement to get as much performance as possible out of Falcon 9 - "it's a challenging mission."
Quote from: vaporcobra on 12/05/2018 10:54 pmHans confirmed that Falcon 9 will be in an expendable configuration for GPS III SV01 during the CRS-16 post-launch conference.Additionally, "booster is in great shape and being integrated in the hangar", suggesting that it's the core spotted in 39A. He also said that the reason for the expendable profile was a customer requirement to get as much performance as possible out of Falcon 9 - "it's a challenging mission."This makes no sense to me (so likely I'm missing something). From what we know, a recoverable F9 could put GPS-III into a very nice transfer orbit, then the satellite could circularize and have a full and productive life.Now by making the F9 expendable, they get a better transfer orbit, less for the satellite to do, and the satellite has more fuel for later.But what's the point?? What can the GPS satellite do with this extra fuel? GPS satellites hardly ever maneuver - in fact they hate maneuvering, since they need to pull them out of service until they can re-determine the orbital elements.So it makes no sense to me that the government would pay extra for an expendable launch, which only saves a resource (fuel) that they have no way to use.
But what's the point?? What can the GPS satellite do with this extra fuel?
Quote from: LouScheffer on 12/06/2018 04:13 pmThis makes no sense to me (so likely I'm missing something). From what we know, a recoverable F9 could put GPS-III into a very nice transfer orbit, then the satellite could circularize and have a full and productive life.Now by making the F9 expendable, they get a better transfer orbit, less for the satellite to do, and the satellite has more fuel for later.But what's the point?? What can the GPS satellite do with this extra fuel? GPS satellites hardly ever maneuver - in fact they hate maneuvering, since they need to pull them out of service until they can re-determine the orbital elements.So it makes no sense to me that the government would pay extra for an expendable launch, which only saves a resource (fuel) that they have no way to use. DOD don't care, they want as much room for contingency as possible and saving a few bucks doesn't make up for more fuel and a longer life.
This makes no sense to me (so likely I'm missing something). From what we know, a recoverable F9 could put GPS-III into a very nice transfer orbit, then the satellite could circularize and have a full and productive life.Now by making the F9 expendable, they get a better transfer orbit, less for the satellite to do, and the satellite has more fuel for later.But what's the point?? What can the GPS satellite do with this extra fuel? GPS satellites hardly ever maneuver - in fact they hate maneuvering, since they need to pull them out of service until they can re-determine the orbital elements.So it makes no sense to me that the government would pay extra for an expendable launch, which only saves a resource (fuel) that they have no way to use.
[..] Maybe they need to squeeze a few more years of on orbit life just so that when the ground segment is up and running they still have the originally designed life.