Author Topic: Golden Spike announce Phase A for commercial lunar landing missions  (Read 268594 times)

Offline STS Tony

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They've been stuck on around 2,500 bucks for three days. Not working out, but not surprising based on that fundraising page. "Give us 240K. The campaign will enable us to start to create interactive media products, apps"

So this is a cash grab to pay for some company to build them a website. And the rewards include "put our logo on your site". What? I'm to pay to advertise you too? :D
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Offline RocketmanUS

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Golden Spike web page
http://goldenspikecompany.com/

Fund raising web page
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/golden-spike-is-sending-nations-and-people-to-the-moon-join-in?c=home

I don't see a link from their web page to the fund raising page?

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Quote from: RocketmanUS link=topic=30549.msg1014524#msg1014524

I don't see a link from their web page to the fund raising page?

I don't either, but a pdf is there somewhere if you do a google search with "indiegogo site:goldenspikecompany.com". Their facebook page has a link.

I made a small donation and hope they succeed, even as I admit the financing plan is problematic.
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I don't see a link from their web page to the fund raising page?
I don't either, but a pdf is there somewhere if you do a google search with "indiegogo site:goldenspikecompany.com". Their facebook page has a link.

I made a small donation and hope they succeed, even as I admit the financing plan is problematic.
Found pdf at-
http://goldenspikecompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GSC-Crowdfunding-News-Release-2_13_2013.pdf

Has GS shown what expected funding they need per year throw 2020?
« Last Edit: 02/19/2013 09:17 pm by RocketmanUS »

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http://www.parabolicarc.com/2013/03/18/golden-spike-lpi-organize-workshop-on-human-trips-to-moon/

"The two-day seminar will be held at the Lunar and Planetary Science Institute (LPI) in Houston, Texas, on October 3rd and 4th, 2013. ...  ...workshop, which will seek input from lunar researchers from across the world regarding scientific priorities for Golden Spike expeditions."

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@AlanStern will be speaking about Golden Spike today on The Space Show radio show live today 1-2 pm Mountain. http://www.thespaceshow.com
https://twitter.com/GoldenSpikeCo/status/315873269091799041

cheers, Martin

Offline Chris Bergin

Article on the seminar - but rather than a short article on the presser, I returned to an old article/L2 presentation from 2011 about protecting the Apollo sites, as an interesting angle.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/golden-spike-landing-site-options/
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Not sure if I like the heavy emphasis on touring the Apollo landing sites, they should leave them be.

I'd go for Copernicus or Tycho crater, now that would be an awesome site.
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Interesting angle. The keep-out zone around Stonehenge might as well start at the London Eye, but that doesn't deter the tourism. So for sites of historical importance, perhaps citizen science telephotography, maybe non-invasive remote sensing, with no atmospheric extinction, where things are closer in appearance than they are. Something like visiting Spinal Tap's midget Stonehenge...  ;D

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This is all well and good, but so far I haven't seen a single thing from Golden Spike that makes me actually take them seriously. This will only change once they can show us the money, as well as a concrete plan with launch vehicle, spacecraft, lander, and mission profile. Until then, the whole thing remains (rather poor) science fiction.

Offline Warren Platts

This is all well and good, but so far I haven't seen a single thing from Golden Spike that makes me actually take them seriously. This will only change once they can show us the money, as well as a concrete plan with launch vehicle, spacecraft, lander, and mission profile. Until then, the whole thing remains (rather poor) science fiction.

They have the "concrete plan with launch vehicle, spacecraft, lander, and mission profile". It's been published in the AIAA Journal of Spacecraft and Rockets.
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Offline Warren Platts

Not sure if I like the heavy emphasis on touring the Apollo landing sites, they should leave them be.

I'd go for Copernicus or Tycho crater, now that would be an awesome site.

When your space flights cost $1.6B each, I don't see the point of visiting a place that's already been seen.

I would vote for the so-called "D-caldera" aka "Ina", as it is a very recent, very strange feature possibly caused by a gas eruption, and should be easily reachable by the Block 1 GS landers...

http://blogs.airspacemag.com/moon/2011/10/its-a-gas-man/
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Article on the seminar - but rather than a short article on the presser, I returned to an old article/L2 presentation from 2011 about protecting the Apollo sites, as an interesting angle.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2013/03/golden-spike-landing-site-options/
Nice read Chris! :) Every time I read about these folks it sends me back to my Apollo days and it get me all excited about going someplace again. Then the reality of financing sets in and I get sad. Hope springs eternal though and I wish them well...
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fwiw, tweet:

GoldenSpike ‏@GoldenSpikeCo 29 Mar
Today Golden Spike is holding our mid-term lander systems study review today in CO. Welcome ULA, NG, SwRI, ILOA, Paragon, Masten, others!

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Update from their Indiegogo campaign. In retrospect, maybe not the best idea. I contributed, but really as a contributor I'd like to have a situation where a small contribution could make an actual difference. This campaign is mostly symbolic.

I do like their news about upcoming announcements from "major aerospace partners".

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Golden Spike Indiegogo Campaign Supporters-

We all share the desire to see humans return to lunar exploration. And today, we’re redoubling our efforts to see
this campaign help make that happen, and asking for your help.

With just over two weeks left in this campaign, we have to admit that this part of Golden Spike’s efforts, here at Indiegogo, is just not performing as we’d hoped.

We aimed high—setting a goal of $240,000—a dollar for every mile on the way to the Moon. And while $9400 raised so far puts us “higher” than over 90% of all human spaceflights—higher than all missions except Apollo, it’s still a a lot lower than our objective.

That’s disappointing. It’s frustrating. And it’s our fault.

Simply put, we didn’t put the right people and resources on this Indiegogo campaign.

That said, great things are happening in every other aspect of Golden Spike’s activities— with soon to appear press releases from major aerospace partners, strong engagement in our international scientific conference on Golden Spike mission capabilities set for October, and investor and sales meetings that are dramatically broadening the kinds of entities that have an interest in purchasing human lunar expeditions.

But back to this campaign. We’re going to take advantage of the press of time left—just 16 days—to reach out to the broader public about people they can be a part of a historic new era of human lunar exploration.

To do that, you’ll be seeing Golden Spike in the press quite a bit more the next two weeks.

And we’d like to ask your help too, spreading the word about why you contributed and why you think others should too. Speak to friends and colleagues. Messag on sites like Twitter and Facebook, Google+, and LinkedIn. Send emails. Heck, putt up signs and hand out flyers!

We’re in the final phases of this campaign, ask people to join in. Let them know why you joined. Tell them their participation will make a huge difference. Make the point that 40+ years of waiting for governments to do this for us showed that the people who want humans to explore the Moon have to take personal action if we want it.

If we do this right, we can succeed.

Thanks for your support, and thanks for helping us turn this around!

T-16 days and counting…

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I do like their news about upcoming announcements from "major aerospace partners".

Didn't their most likely customer just announce 'No' for moon trips.  :-\
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I do like their news about upcoming announcements from "major aerospace partners".

Didn't their most likely customer just announce 'No' for moon trips.  :-\
they said NASA wouldn't land on the Moon, not that NASA wouldn't be interested in scientific data from the Moon.
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I do like their news about upcoming announcements from "major aerospace partners".

Didn't their most likely customer just announce 'No' for moon trips.  :-\

they said NASA wouldn't land on the Moon, not that NASA wouldn't be interested in scientific data from the Moon.

Technically, if I understood correctly, it was even vaguer than that.  I think that Administrator Bolden said it woudn't be a NASA-led mission, nothing else.
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If nobody coughs up the $1.5B to do the human expedition then there's not much scientific data to sell. Having difficulties seeing any other entity than NASA buying the seats.
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I think what Bolden outlined is that a NASA developed Moon mission is not likely in our lifetimes but I don't think that a CCDev like Moon transport is excluded. Such a program started in 2017 could land people on  the Moon in early 2020's. Problem is who would be Golden Spike's competitor for such a service?

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