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Offline QuantumG

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1.3  MISSION OBJECTIVES
The goals of the SM-2.4 mission are to launch an Integrated Payload Stack (IPS) to the required
orbits and to provide an EELV New Entrant opportunity.


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1.3  MISSION OBJECTIVES
The goals of the SM-2.4 mission are to launch an Integrated Payload Stack (IPS) to the required
orbits and to provide an EELV New Entrant opportunity.

Thanks QG. 

So I don't have the full context for the quote you provided..., but as I read it, it says nothing about the SM-2.4 mission (STP-2, I guess, based on the title of this thread) flying on the maiden flight of the Falcon Heavy.  In fact, that statement doesn't seem to indicate which ordinal FH flight STP-2 will fly on.

So I either Jim is not correct with his statement of "They will be one and the same" on a post following a substantive comment about "STP-2 and not FH demo flight" that immediately preceded his comment:


Jim's post is a good point to come back on topic: STP-2 and not FH demo flight.   ;)

They will be one and the same

... or, if he didn't mean what that locution seemed to say, then I don't understand Jim's abbreviated prose.  In this case, Galactic Penquin, MTom and I all seemed to take it as FH flight 1 == STP-2 USG payload.

But actually, understanding Jim seems to be a problem many of us on these forums often seem to run into :o.   Communication is hard!   :D 
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He's the guy with most insight into this things. I would tend to think that he simply knows.

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1.3  MISSION OBJECTIVES
The goals of the SM-2.4 mission are to launch an Integrated Payload Stack (IPS) to the required
orbits and to provide an EELV New Entrant opportunity.

Thanks QG. 

So I don't have the full context for the quote you provided..., but as I read it, it says nothing about the SM-2.4 mission (STP-2, I guess, based on the title of this thread) flying on the maiden flight of the Falcon Heavy.  In fact, that statement doesn't seem to indicate which ordinal FH flight STP-2 will fly on.

So I either Jim is not correct with his statement of "They will be one and the same" on a post following a substantive comment about "STP-2 and not FH demo flight" that immediately preceded his comment:


Jim's post is a good point to come back on topic: STP-2 and not FH demo flight.   ;)

They will be one and the same

... or, if he didn't mean what that locution seemed to say, then I don't understand Jim's abbreviated prose.  In this case, Galactic Penquin, MTom and I all seemed to take it as FH flight 1 == STP-2 USG payload.

But actually, understanding Jim seems to be a problem many of us on these forums often seem to run into :o.   Communication is hard!   :D

Yes, that is also my question, because SpaceX launch manifest lists (still?) 2 FH flights.
(With the information mentioned before: STP-2 launch date is early 2016...)
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=30544.msg1205265#msg1205265
« Last Edit: 06/14/2014 12:12 PM by MTom »

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The title needs to be updated to reflect the move of FH from SLC-40 to SLC-39A.


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The title needs to be updated to reflect the move of FH from SLC-40 to SLC-39A.

... and the launch date could be also: Mid 2015 --> Early 2016

Edit/CR: updated from SLC-40 to SLC-39A in post title
« Last Edit: 09/14/2014 09:47 AM by CuddlyRocket »

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Space News reports a slip into 2016

Link....

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SpaceX’s public manifest shows the STP-2 mission launching in 2015, but Ball [Aerospace] said it has pushed to 2016.
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So there will be a different payload on the FH maiden flight.

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Interessting document on the FORMOSAT-7/COSMIC-2 satellites with info on the payload stack

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That's a remarkable failed attempt at spelling "courtesy" on that slide...

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Interessting document on the FORMOSAT-7/COSMIC-2 satellites with info on the payload stack

I didn't recognize that at first.

I thought the previous design looked really cool. But I guess the new version (using ESPA rings) is probably a good choice.

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So there will be a different payload on the FH maiden flight.

Or (gasp!) FH will slip into 2016...

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That's a remarkable failed attempt at spelling "courtesy" on that slide...

And it gets replicated. He probably relied on spell check. Typical result.
« Last Edit: 10/19/2014 08:07 PM by veblen »

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That's a remarkable failed attempt at spelling "courtesy" on that slide...

And it gets replicated. He probably replied on spell check. Typical result.

Intentional irony?  ;D

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That's a remarkable failed attempt at spelling "courtesy" on that slide...

And it gets replicated. He probably replied on spell check. Typical result.

Intentional irony?  ;D

That sounds much better than brain fart;)
« Last Edit: 10/19/2014 08:31 PM by veblen »

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The title needs to be updated to reflect the move of FH from SLC-40 to SLC-39A.

... and the launch date could be also: Mid 2015 --> Early 2016

Edit/CR: updated from SLC-40 to SLC-39A in post title
Could, maybe, likely, but still an opinion until the launch schedule firms up.

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From page 25 of that Formosat 7/Cosmic 2 presentation, launch is scheduled for May 2016.
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From page 25 of that Formosat 7/Cosmic 2 presentation, launch is scheduled for May 2016.

Sounds about right.  With the launch pad due for completion in mid 2015, FH Demo will be Q4 of 2015 leaving a few months to review flight data for STP-2.

I recon they will be fully recovering the side cores by then, even of the Demo flight.
« Last Edit: 10/22/2014 10:20 PM by Karloss12 »

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