I'm outraged my tax dollars are being spent on this. We should be installing a cattle module and training the Astronauts in slaughtering and butchering
Jim is wrong, SpaceX is enabling whirled peas.
Did I understood it right? They will install it, grow plants and send the first samples back on the same Dragon that will bring it up? Or will they use the next one?
The other important point is that this is one of those things that might get fundamental for BEO. Imagine if they can get a positive O2 flow, recycle the water and use process and reuse the rest of the plant as compost. This might allow some sort of (inefficient) closed loop ECLSS. And if they only ship the seeds, there's a good chance the will not have to worry about insects, worms or any of those problems.
Quote from: baldusi on 10/17/2012 02:53 pmDid I understood it right? They will install it, grow plants and send the first samples back on the same Dragon that will bring it up? Or will they use the next one?Probably not enough time to do that. The plants do need time to grow. QuoteThe other important point is that this is one of those things that might get fundamental for BEO. Imagine if they can get a positive O2 flow, recycle the water and use process and reuse the rest of the plant as compost. This might allow some sort of (inefficient) closed loop ECLSS. And if they only ship the seeds, there's a good chance the will not have to worry about insects, worms or any of those problems.I doubt they will get enough oxygen from it to make a huge difference in BEO flight but it can make a difference in terms of food. Seeds take up much less volume than a pre-packed food item. If you could get recyling you would reduce the amount of food that needs to be sent a bit but that is a more advanced process.
And if they only ship the seeds, there's a good chance the will not have to worry about insects, worms or any of those problems.
How much oxygen exchange per biomass is "normal"? To get an idea. When I mean BEO I also thought of the Gateway. And may be even a moon base. But the general issue is that this is the good direction. I seriously doubt that this system will make much difference. But I'm pretty sure if they keep getting data and making new systems, eventually, they'll get to a point where it will help a lot in the mass needs. I mean, most think of a closed loop ECLSS only on the air and water. If you can get a bit of reuse also on food, you lower the requirements more.
Anyway barring things like ISRU and the amount of packaging food needs, plants won't change the mass needed for the mission. Seeds just put said mass in a much more compact form. C02 gets recyled into more food but that is about it. They do however change the amount of mass needed for resupply(i.e. The recyling).