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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #60 on: 10/12/2012 03:01 pm »
Preeser just started on link above,(16.00 IST)

well i have to go offline now.(16.27 BST)
Three and half miles traveled already,eight and a half to go.
Journey resumes at 13.30 local.
they are behind time but can make it up by staying parked less time.
Terrific stuff! even now they are trying to cover all eventualities, right to the end ,on the good ship Endeavour! :-*
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #61 on: 10/12/2012 03:27 pm »
Looks like nothing has changed, with a nice crowd surrounding her.
« Last Edit: 10/12/2012 03:28 pm by Dappa »

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #62 on: 10/12/2012 03:31 pm »

they are behind time but can make it up by staying parked less time.


I would SO MUCH rather them take their time, get it right, and not damage her in a rush to "stay on schedule."

They are taking the right course of action here: slow and steady.

Cheers,
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #63 on: 10/12/2012 03:33 pm »
Some  really nice shots!

Please fix the aspect ratio before posting. Don't demean Endeavour by stretching her!

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #64 on: 10/12/2012 03:42 pm »
Some  really nice shots!

Please fix the aspect ratio before posting. Don't demean Endeavour by stretching her!
Stretching Endeavour was done by CNN, so you might want to take it up with them. I'm not going to fix the aspect ratio, that would take more time than I'm willing to spend on it.

But of course, nothing prevents you from fixing the aspect ratio yourself. ;)

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #65 on: 10/12/2012 05:01 pm »
Best one so far.

Awesome! Endeavour looks absolutely beautiful, and I like the clear view of the transporter as well! :)
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #66 on: 10/12/2012 05:32 pm »
Space shuttle Endeavour embarks on Los Angeles road trip
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101212a.html

Photo gallery: On the road with space shuttle Endeavour
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101212b.html

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #67 on: 10/12/2012 05:34 pm »

they are behind time but can make it up by staying parked less time.


I would SO MUCH rather them take their time, get it right, and not damage her in a rush to "stay on schedule."

They are taking the right course of action here: slow and steady.

Cheers,
Chris G.

Fair point Chris! it is hard not to be angry though! She, the workers,the Astronauts and a beautiful dream have been damaged WAY TOO much,WAY TOO often already!
This *Early retirement* process has been TORTURE!,nothing less for those of us that loved her and NASA as it used to be.
No point going over old ground though,fact is Politicians and military should NEVER have had a say in a civilian space program,they have a lot to answer for! >:(

I am still saving your article up to read when She is finally safely in her grave,long before her time.
I want your article to be the fullstop,we have seen the wheelstops already.
Your article like many of yours that guided us through these bittersweet years will be my closure!.
Cheers!
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #68 on: 10/12/2012 05:44 pm »
No point going over old ground though,fact is Politicians and military should NEVER have had a say in a civilian space program,they have a lot to answer for! >:(
Double-edged sword: couldn't have Shuttle without them, either.

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #69 on: 10/12/2012 05:47 pm »

No point going over old ground though,fact is Politicians and military should NEVER have had a say in a civilian space program,they have a lot to answer for! >:(


Wrong, the military was not the source of shuttle issues

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #70 on: 10/12/2012 06:30 pm »
And let's leave those three posts above as the end of that conversation as this thread is clearly about the road journey only.

She does look very shiny in those CNN shots.
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #71 on: 10/12/2012 06:51 pm »
Space shuttle Endeavour embarks on Los Angeles road trip
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101212a.html

Photo gallery: On the road with space shuttle Endeavour
http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101212b.html

Why, thank you, Robert!

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #72 on: 10/12/2012 07:07 pm »
She does look very shiny in those CNN shots.
Lighting and camera angles can help everyone look a little younger.  Screengrabs from KNBC again from a few minutes ago, first blown-out, then tighter.  (Getting set up for a live remote.)
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #73 on: 10/12/2012 07:15 pm »
Listening to the remote, it sounds like this first stop turned into an unofficial place to come take a look.

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #74 on: 10/12/2012 07:16 pm »
This Manchester Boulevard Bridge crossing interests me.  To quote Robert's article, "To meet the weight distribution requirements for traveling the Manchester Boulevard Bridge, Endeavour will trade its computer-controlled transporter for a tow by a 2012 Toyota Tundra pickup truck."

There's a drawing showing the weight of the orbiter plus carrier and such is estimated at 292,500 pounds.  Okay, for round numbers, let's call it 300,000.

Worst case rolling friction should be 0.015 * weight, or 4,500 pounds.  The truck's curb weight is just a little more than that, but it's not going to be empty, it's going to have fuel and a couple of people.  Call it 5,000 pounds.

4500/5000 = 0.9.  That's the required coefficient of friction for the truck's tires given those conditions.  That's pretty high - right at the edge of what regular tires can manage on dry asphalt.  On concrete it would be tougher to make that, and the bridge is part concrete.

So, that means they either have weight in the back of the truck, they have soft tires or, most likely, that the tires on the trailer are at quite a high pressure.  That last one is likely because heavy loads (like regular semis) usually use high-pressure tires, which can reduce the rolling friction coefficient to below 0.01, thereby greatly reducing the force necessary to move them.  However, tires tend to "flat spot" when they are sitting in one place with a heavy load, dramatically increasing the friction coefficient for the first few inches.

What I'm saying is that it might take a good bit of effort for that truck to get her rolling if the tires are flat-spotted a bit, but if she does get rolling, it shouldn't be too hard traction wise to keep her rolling, despite the enormous difference in size between the vehicles.  The Tundra, on the other hand, couldn't pull her up even the slightest hill.

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #75 on: 10/12/2012 07:18 pm »
Looks like John Zarella from CNN there...they might be doing a live remote in the near future.  (Or maybe taping something.)

Edit: live remote, just finished.
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #76 on: 10/12/2012 07:28 pm »
There she is, on what looks like the wide configuration.

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #77 on: 10/12/2012 07:43 pm »
Ready to roll...
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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #78 on: 10/12/2012 08:26 pm »
And there's the Tundra that will tow Endeavour..

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Re: Endeavour's street journey to CSC Viewing, Updates
« Reply #79 on: 10/12/2012 08:29 pm »
Endeavour is now manoeuvring around to drive off the lot.

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