Author Topic: Cancelled: British singer Sarah Brightman to be Russia’s next space tourist  (Read 65235 times)

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NK has reported last week, that her training in the TsPK will start in January 2015.

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Maybe she will just be first on the new space tourist system out of Las Vegas in 2016?
http://worldviewexperience.com/voyage/

This have been over the local  Vegas tv news and it looks like the project is moving forward.

http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2014/feb/25/company-looks-take-customers-edge-space/

"six passengers would join two crewmembers in a pressurized space capsule suspended below a paraglider wing and a 300-foot balloon containing 15 million cubic feet of helium. In one possible experience scenario, Poynter said the balloon would be launched before sunrise and in 1 1/2 hours reach an elevation of more than 100,000 feet — nearly 20 miles high — where passengers would see a galaxy of stars and the curvature of the Earth."

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 How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown.
 
 I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.
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How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown.
 
 I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.

This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it.

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How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown.
 
 I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.

This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it.
"The cost of the adventure: $75,000 a passenger"   but this is a whole different story when it comes to time available.
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How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown.
 
 I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.

This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it.
"The cost of the adventure: $75,000 a passenger"   but this is a whole different story when it comes to time available.

That's what I meant with this costing $50 million is it not.

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How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown.
 
 I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.

This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it.
"The cost of the adventure: $75,000 a passenger"   but this is a whole different story when it comes to time available.

That's what I meant with this costing $50 million is it not.

thought so, just had to make it clear......believe this is going to happen with the other projects coming online down on the strip.   
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The latest news
http://en.itar-tass.com/non-political/735692

"WASHINGTON, June 11, 7:12 /ITAR-TASS/. British famed soprano singer Sarah Brightman will pay $52 million for the next year’s flight on board of the Russian-made Soyuz spacecraft to the International Space Station (ISS), where she plans to spend 10 days as a space tourist, the president of the trip’s organizing company said.

Tom Shelley, the president of US-based Space Adventures Ltd. company, said at a National Space Club Florida Committee meeting that Brightman, 53, plans to make the trip to the ISS in September of 2015 and this fall she intends to start the pre-flight trainings at the space training center outside Moscow."


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.. and inexplicably, the three US providers that claim they will also soon be able to fly astronauts to the same destination have nothing to say.
 
Human spaceflight is basically just LARPing now.

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What would they say?

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What would they say?

"We're working our hardest to get some of this action"

"Our cheaper product will be available in 2017"

"If you're happy to fly with arguably higher risk we can put you on the next cargo flight for 1/5th the price"

Anything? No?

How about: we've actually talked to NASA and gotten approval to fly private astronauts on the vacant seats when we start flying.

So far they haven't even gotten that nailed down.

« Last Edit: 06/11/2014 10:41 pm by QuantumG »
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Approval from NASA to fly private "astronauts" on vacant seats for ten day stays on the space station? I doubt we will ever see that happening. The true costs of something like that, explained to the taxpayers in excruciating detail, will derail any attempt. If you don't understand what I am mean I don't know where to start...
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What would they say?

"We're working our hardest to get some of this action"

"Our cheaper product will be available in 2017"

"If you're happy to fly with arguably higher risk we can put you on the next cargo flight for 1/5th the price"

Anything? No?

How about: we've actually talked to NASA and gotten approval to fly private astronauts on the vacant seats when we start flying.

So far they haven't even gotten that nailed down.
Just because they could, doesn't mean they want to.

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Approval from NASA to fly private "astronauts" on vacant seats for ten day stays on the space station? I doubt we will ever see that happening. The true costs of something like that, explained to the taxpayers in excruciating detail, will derail any attempt. If you don't understand what I am mean I don't know where to start...

Could you elaborate a bit on what restrictions are currently in place preventing/discouraging US spacecraft from carrying commercial passengers to the ISS?
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I guess my gut feeling is "never going to happen". Imagine the conversation when NASA tries to establish a pricing structure. I wouldn't know where to start.
Taxpayers are as a general rule hard to please and specifically will object to subsidizing "joy rides for millionaires".
 
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I guess my gut feeling is "never going to happen". Imagine the conversation when NASA tries to establish a pricing structure. I wouldn't know where to start.
Taxpayers are as a general rule hard to please and specifically will object to subsidizing "joy rides for millionaires".

So US commercial crew is essentially prohibited from commercial activity?
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How about: we've actually talked to NASA and gotten approval to fly private astronauts on the vacant seats when we start flying.

Anybody who believes that private astronauts are going to be flying to the ISS in the spare seats on commercial crew flights are living in a world of complete make believe.

Firstly, NASA hate tourists flying on the ISS. They only accept it via Soyuz simply because they have no choice but to do so - it is a Russian vehicle and the Russians can do what they like with it. So long as NASA has one iota of control over commercial crew flights (and they will, since they will be paying for it and it will be docking to the US segment), then we will never see tourists on ISS via commercial crew. Of far more value to NASA is extra cargo, which is what will occupy the mass/volume of the three unoccupied seats.

And secondly, since the "indirect handover" method will be used for commercial crew, which means one vehicle and crew will undock and land before the new crew launches and docks, tourist flights will be impossible anyway (unless the tourists want to stay for 6 months - which would consume far too much ISS resources).
« Last Edit: 06/12/2014 08:49 pm by Space Pete »

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