Awesome, another reason to love her! However; the video calls her Dreamchaser, perhaps she has the wrong ride.
She's got a great voice - good enough to reach from Space to Earth.
Quote from: Rocket Science on 10/10/2012 07:34 pmAwesome, another reason to love her! However; the video calls her Dreamchaser, perhaps she has the wrong ride. She is calling her new album Dream Chaser. Sierra Nevada may wish to get a picture of their Dream Chaser space craft onto the album cover or at least onto the stage during her tour next year.
Regardless of whether Ms. Brightman actually flies, this seems to be another data point that there is a market for private spaceflight.
Quote from: Danderman on 10/10/2012 08:07 pmRegardless of whether Ms. Brightman actually flies, this seems to be another data point that there is a market for private spaceflight.Maybe there is a niche market for flying super-rich people to already existing space stations, but personally, I very much doubt that such a market is large enough to sustain development of 'destinations-in-space' purely for private spaceflight.
Quote from: woods170 on 10/11/2012 06:33 amQuote from: Danderman on 10/10/2012 08:07 pmRegardless of whether Ms. Brightman actually flies, this seems to be another data point that there is a market for private spaceflight.Maybe there is a niche market for flying super-rich people to already existing space stations, but personally, I very much doubt that such a market is large enough to sustain development of 'destinations-in-space' purely for private spaceflight.But that's the whole basis of Excalibur Almaz Inc's business model it seems to me?
Quote from: Star One on 10/11/2012 09:26 pmQuote from: woods170 on 10/11/2012 06:33 amQuote from: Danderman on 10/10/2012 08:07 pmRegardless of whether Ms. Brightman actually flies, this seems to be another data point that there is a market for private spaceflight.Maybe there is a niche market for flying super-rich people to already existing space stations, but personally, I very much doubt that such a market is large enough to sustain development of 'destinations-in-space' purely for private spaceflight.But that's the whole basis of Excalibur Almaz Inc's business model it seems to me?Possibly why Excalibur Almaz are talking about more expensive trips to lunar orbit.
I still have to wonder if it's really that viable a business plan?
In an interview with RIA Novosti, Brightman said that while in space, she hopes to sing, accompanied by a choir and an orchestra on the ground.
Sarah Brightman won't be Russia's next space tourist claims Russian space officialhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2235920/Sarah-Brightman-wont-Russias-space-tourist-claims-Russian-space-official.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
A Russian space official has dismissed British singer Sarah Brightman's plans to blast off on her planned mission as a space tourist as a publicity stunt.The ex-wife of Andrew Lloyd Webber is treating her scheduled 2015 trip on a Soyuz rocket as a way of boosting sales of her latest songs, he implied.And the official claimed that despite a high profile announcement in Moscow, no contract has been signed for the 'I Lost My Heart to a Starship Trooper' singer to become a space tourist at an estimated cost of £30 million.
Sounds like Sarah Brightman will have to wait for one of the CCiCap spacecraft to fly.
Yesterday, there was this item on Interfax (in Russian):http://www.interfax.ru/news.asp?id=276749
None of this "I'll pay a fraction now, and then raise the rest from sponsors, or from commercials after the flight".
A charming idea, however, due to the round-trip signal delay, it will be more like a karaoke performance, albeit with the karaoke band playing live
Quote from: A_M_Swallow on 11/21/2012 06:18 pmSounds like Sarah Brightman will have to wait for one of the CCiCap spacecraft to fly.Yes, but she's not getting any younger...
Cady Coleman and Ian Anderson managed a flute duet without any problem.
Quote from: saturnapollo on 11/25/2012 11:35 pmCady Coleman and Ian Anderson managed a flute duet without any problem.From NASA: Coleman played her part from 220 miles above Earth late last week. Anderson played his part while on tour in Perm, Russia, during the weekend. The two parts were then joined.
QuoteA charming idea, however, due to the round-trip signal delay, it will be more like a karaoke performance, albeit with the karaoke band playing live What time delay?Cady Coleman and Ian Anderson managed a flute duet without any problem.Keith
From NASA: Coleman played her part from 220 miles above Earth late last week. Anderson played his part while on tour in Perm, Russia, during the weekend. The two parts were then joined.
Quote from: Danderman on 11/22/2012 03:48 pmNone of this "I'll pay a fraction now, and then raise the rest from sponsors, or from commercials after the flight".I wonder if they pay before going. Just like on an airline.
I presume it is due to the signal going through satellites etc?
Another twist...Russia to Decide on Brightman Space Flight Next Yearhttp://en.rian.ru/russia/20121123/177689018.html
On Wednesday Mrs. Brightman was in Hamburg. She said in an interview, that she will fly to the ISS. So it seems that all is on track for her flight next year.
Russia’s space agency Roscosmos and NASA may opt against sending music star Sarah Brightman to the International Space Station (ISS) in 2015, Russian agency’s head Vladimir Popovkin said on Saturday.The British soprano was set to go on an eight-day trip to the station, but NASA and Roskosmos are considering extending the visiting flight to one month, in which case she would have to give up her seat to a professional spaceman, Popovkin said.“If it’s a monthly shift, then it will be staff cosmonauts and astronauts who will be performing some short-term scientific research,” the official said.Popovkin did not say when the decision will be made or whether Brightman’s flight could be rescheduled for a later date. Neither did he name Brightman’s potential replacement, saying only that the candidate will be fielded by the European Space Agency.
http://en.rian.ru/art_living/20130316/180055962/Sara-Brightmans-Space-Trip-Under-Question--Roscosmos.html
The plot thickens! QuoteRussia’s space agency Roscosmos and NASA may opt against sending music star Sarah Brightman to the International Space Station (ISS) in 2015, Russian agency’s head Vladimir Popovkin said on Saturday.The British soprano was set to go on an eight-day trip to the station, but NASA and Roskosmos are considering extending the visiting flight to one month, in which case she would have to give up her seat to a professional spaceman, Popovkin said.“If it’s a monthly shift, then it will be staff cosmonauts and astronauts who will be performing some short-term scientific research,” the official said.Popovkin did not say when the decision will be made or whether Brightman’s flight could be rescheduled for a later date. Neither did he name Brightman’s potential replacement, saying only that the candidate will be fielded by the European Space Agency.http://en.rian.ru/art_living/20130316/180055962/Sara-Brightmans-Space-Trip-Under-Question--Roscosmos.html
The source further claimed it was likely on the mission earmarked for Brightman's flight in October 2015 all three seats would go to professional Russian cosmonauts.
Oddly it says in this report the seat will likely go to a Russian Cosmonaut instead?
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Well, so much for shooting the first music video in space
Quote from: jded on 05/14/2013 06:36 pmWell, so much for shooting the first music video in space Well? Then how about the first, and hopefully not last, music videoin space done of and by a PROFESSIONAL.
Quote from: Moe Grills on 05/14/2013 07:18 pmQuote from: jded on 05/14/2013 06:36 pmWell, so much for shooting the first music video in space Well? Then how about the first, and hopefully not last, music videoin space done of and by a PROFESSIONAL. I beg your pardon! Cmdr. H is a professional... Oh, you mean a MUSIC professional.
How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown. I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.
Quote from: Nomadd on 04/23/2014 12:07 pm How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown. I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it.
Quote from: Star One on 04/23/2014 12:25 pmQuote from: Nomadd on 04/23/2014 12:07 pm How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown. I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it."The cost of the adventure: $75,000 a passenger" but this is a whole different story when it comes to time available.
Quote from: Prober on 04/23/2014 04:45 pmQuote from: Star One on 04/23/2014 12:25 pmQuote from: Nomadd on 04/23/2014 12:07 pm How many times have we seen this story about celebrities and how many times have they actually flown. I'd guess $3k to $5k for the Vegas ride.This is hardly the same as a flight on Virgin Galactic is it."The cost of the adventure: $75,000 a passenger" but this is a whole different story when it comes to time available.That's what I meant with this costing $50 million is it not.
The latest newshttp://en.itar-tass.com/non-political/735692
What would they say?
Quote from: Borklund on 06/11/2014 09:48 pmWhat would they say?"We're working our hardest to get some of this action""Our cheaper product will be available in 2017""If you're happy to fly with arguably higher risk we can put you on the next cargo flight for 1/5th the price"Anything? No?How about: we've actually talked to NASA and gotten approval to fly private astronauts on the vacant seats when we start flying.So far they haven't even gotten that nailed down.
Approval from NASA to fly private "astronauts" on vacant seats for ten day stays on the space station? I doubt we will ever see that happening. The true costs of something like that, explained to the taxpayers in excruciating detail, will derail any attempt. If you don't understand what I am mean I don't know where to start...
I guess my gut feeling is "never going to happen". Imagine the conversation when NASA tries to establish a pricing structure. I wouldn't know where to start.Taxpayers are as a general rule hard to please and specifically will object to subsidizing "joy rides for millionaires".
How about: we've actually talked to NASA and gotten approval to fly private astronauts on the vacant seats when we start flying.
Quote from: QuantumG on 06/11/2014 10:39 pmHow about: we've actually talked to NASA and gotten approval to fly private astronauts on the vacant seats when we start flying.Anybody who believes that private astronauts are going to be flying to the ISS in the spare seats on commercial crew flights are living in a world of complete make believe.Firstly, NASA hate tourists flying on the ISS. They only accept it via Soyuz simply because they have no choice but to do so - it is a Russian vehicle and the Russians can do what they like with it. So long as NASA has one iota of control over commercial crew flights (and they will, since they will be paying for it and it will be docking to the US segment), then we will never see tourists on ISS via commercial crew. Of far more value to NASA is extra cargo, which is what will occupy the mass/volume of the three unoccupied seats.And secondly, since the "indirect handover" method will be used for commercial crew, which means one vehicle and crew will undock and land before the new crew launches and docks, tourist flights will be impossible anyway (unless the tourists want to stay for 6 months - which would consume far too much ISS resources).
That's really unfortunate. Is there anything that can be done to fix this?
Quote from: neilh on 06/12/2014 09:46 pmThat's really unfortunate. Is there anything that can be done to fix this?No, not really.Although, I disagree that it needs "fixing" - ISS is a science lab, not a hotel. I have nothing against space tourism, but it should be done on a dedicated platform, not a taxpayer-funded laboratory.
It's a shame that people are still talking about private astronauts as "tourists". Everyone who has flown with Space Adventures had paying work to do on the ISS. Richard Garriott says he came close to making a profit. Sarah Brightman almost certainly will.It's not tourism just because the government isn't paying for the ride. If anything, that is.
Call it what you will, I think any "profit margin" will be better demonstrated by commercial flights to the Bigelow station. As Space Pete so accurately stated, ISS is a taxpayer funded laboratory.
Quote from: cygnusX1 on 06/13/2014 02:04 amCall it what you will, I think any "profit margin" will be better demonstrated by commercial flights to the Bigelow station. As Space Pete so accurately stated, ISS is a taxpayer funded laboratory.Which obviously means the taxpayers have no right to use it?
Quote from: cygnusX1 on 06/13/2014 02:04 amCall it what you will, I think any "profit margin" will be better demonstrated by commercial flights to the Bigelow station. As Space Pete so accurately stated, ISS is a taxpayer funded laboratory.Correct. Note: Sarah Brightman is a UK citizen. Also note: Britain, as an ESA member state, never contributed any funding specifically to ISS. Even if taxpayers from the directly contributing member states were eligible for a visit to ISS, it would still exclude Sarah Brightman (and every other British taxpayer). No bucks, No Buck Rogers (sort of...)Before somebody brings up Timothy Peake: he's flying to ISS as part of Britain's contributions to the ESA Human Spaceflight Program.But this whole discussion is beyond that: the participating parties in the ISS agreement decide who get's access to ISS. However, NASA cannot veto a Russian decision or vice versa. So, if the Russians occasionally offer short stays at ISS for private spaceflight participants, there is not much NASA can do about it but hope the PSP's stay at ISS is as short as possible.
Quote from: QuantumG on 06/13/2014 02:05 amQuote from: cygnusX1 on 06/13/2014 02:04 amCall it what you will, I think any "profit margin" will be better demonstrated by commercial flights to the Bigelow station. As Space Pete so accurately stated, ISS is a taxpayer funded laboratory.Which obviously means the taxpayers have no right to use it?taxpayers use it for "science" not entertainment.
Maybe my taxpayers quip wasn't obvious: it's the US transport provider that pays the taxes.
Quote from: QuantumG on 06/14/2014 12:44 amMaybe my taxpayers quip wasn't obvious: it's the US transport provider that pays the taxes.Not sure what you mean by this...
Boeing pays a lot of taxes.. they have a right to use their national laboratory.Dunno how I can make that any more clear.
It's like saying I should be able to set up a business taking tourists around Los Alamos, just because my taxes paid for it.
Ahh, I see. When you hear "national laboratory" you think "those places where they made the bomb!"
As I mentioned in my comment above, US commercial companies already make regular use of US National Laboratories. Why should the ISS be an exception?
It isn't.
Quote from: QuantumG on 06/17/2014 04:26 amAhh, I see. When you hear "national laboratory" you think "those places where they made the bomb!"Nope. The point is that national labs have a specific purpose, and the access that people and organization get is defined by that purpose. There are already mechanisms in places for eligible entities to fly research payloads. If Boeing wanted to do that, they could.Sending millionaires on joy rides isn't research.
What are your thoughts on the use of facilities at US National/NASA Laboratories for the occasional filming of movies? For example, the filming of the opening scene of the Avengers.
She plans to perform a song from the space station, accompanied by an orchestra back on Earth, but has not yet selected the tune. She has been working with ex-husband Andrew Lloyd Webber, the composer of multiple hit musicals including "Phantom of the Opera" which made Brightman a global star.
There was a piece on Sky News the other day about this. They said it would take her 10 days to get there (!) and that it would make more sense for her to fly on Richard Bransons spacecraft instead. Would get much more coverage.I wanted to scream.
Quote from: kevinof on 03/10/2015 06:23 pmThere was a piece on Sky News the other day about this. They said it would take her 10 days to get there (!) and that it would make more sense for her to fly on Richard Bransons spacecraft instead. Would get much more coverage.I wanted to scream.Do you have a link for this magnificent piece of reporting?
Is there a backup tourist waiting in the wings?
She's pulled out of the flight due to personal reasons http://www.sarahbrightman.com/news/postponement-of-flight-plans
Quote from: Chris Bergin on 05/13/2015 05:25 pmShe's pulled out of the flight due to personal reasons http://www.sarahbrightman.com/news/postponement-of-flight-plansThe drop in the value of the rouble should have made the trip cheaper. So is she or a relative ill?
He was already going up on the same flight as her, what I thought I was asking was whether there was a person ready to take her place.
Quote from: nadreck on 05/13/2015 05:44 pmHe was already going up on the same flight as her, what I thought I was asking was whether there was a person ready to take her place. That's his role, you must have misread something. This flight only has one spaceflight participant slot.
Quote from: A_M_Swallow on 05/13/2015 05:46 pmQuote from: Chris Bergin on 05/13/2015 05:25 pmShe's pulled out of the flight due to personal reasons http://www.sarahbrightman.com/news/postponement-of-flight-plansThe drop in the value of the rouble should have made the trip cheaper. So is she or a relative ill?Or did the recent Progress issues make her doubt the safety? The rumors of her leaving Russia/training started after that launch.
Maybe she'll go up in a Dragon someday.
