Author Topic: CEV Breaking news and update thread  (Read 13706 times)

Offline Chris Bergin

CEV Breaking news and update thread
« on: 04/12/2005 08:46 PM »
NASA reveals CEV requirements.

NASA has announced the requirements it needs for a new $15bn manned spaceship to replace the Space Shuttle and to take men back to the Moon and on to Mars.

Named the Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV) the spacecraft must be capable of carrying between four and six astronauts. The CEV would be launched into orbit by rocket and the astronauts would land on the Moon in a separate Lunar Surface Access Module. Several teams of companies, including Boeing, Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman are to submit proposals for the new CEV with two finalists to be selected later this year and a winner in 2006.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #1 on: 04/12/2005 08:47 PM »
Lockheed's design.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #2 on: 04/12/2005 08:48 PM »
Moon/Mars version:

Offline WARPed

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #3 on: 04/12/2005 10:21 PM »
Would these modules be re-useable and if so in what sense.  Would they stay in orbit after use, with a transit module taking supplies and astronauts to/from them (can't see this as what wold be done regarding maintenance), would they have some way of returning to earth/re-entry (doesn't look likely from the concepts) or are they going to be destroyed after each use?
WARPed

Offline Chris Bergin

RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #4 on: 04/13/2005 12:34 AM »
Good question, let's see if we can find out.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #5 on: 04/13/2005 12:34 AM »
Meanwhile. Here's some more which I'll be taking part of for an article:

Northrop Grumman, Boeing plan Space Exploration Team

Northrop Grumman Corporation and The Boeing Company have signed a memorandum of agreement that outlines the structure of a team that will compete for NASA's Crew Exploration Vehicle and other elements of Project Constellation, a planned architecture of human and robotic space systems that will allow astronauts to travel to and explore the moon, Mars and beyond. The two companies expect to finalize the agreement in the near future.

CEV, the first of several space systems envisioned within Project Constellation, will serve as the architecture's central human space transportation system. A NASA competition to begin development of the CEV is expected to begin in 2005.

"A Northrop Grumman-Boeing team will bring together two proven leaders in the development, production and successful deployment of reliable, advanced technology space systems," said Gary Ervin, sector vice president for Northrop Grumman's Integrated Systems sector. "Northrop Grumman's systems integration skills, technology innovation and track record of superior space systems performance, coupled with Boeing's extensive experience in human space flight, offers NASA a team that can develop and deliver an innovative, highly affordable CEV to serve the nation's space exploration needs safely and reliably well into the future."

Under the agreement, Northrop Grumman will serve as the team's leader and prime contractor during the initial development phase of the CEV, known as Spiral 1. During this period, which will demonstrate the CEV's ability to operate safely with astronauts in low Earth orbit, Boeing would serve as Northrop Grumman's principal teammate and major subcontractor.
 
In subsequent Spirals of Project Constellation, NASA's focus will expand from operating the CEV in low Earth orbit to transporting astronauts to the Moon and beyond. In Spiral 2, the Prime Contractor leadership role will shift to Boeing for new human lunar CEV transportation system elements, with Northrop Grumman serving as Boeing's principal teammate and major subcontractor.

Northrop Grumman and Boeing will also determine the prime/subcontractor relationship for subsequent elements of Spiral 2 and 3 as NASA further defines Project Constellation.

"This alliance recognizes that the nation's Vision for Space Exploration and the CEV system development will require as much innovation in program and business management solutions as it requires in technology maturation and engineering," said Chuck Allen, Boeing vice president, Space Exploration Systems. "Collectively, Boeing and Northrop Grumman would offer NASA more than 90 years of combined experience in development and operation of complex, integrated manned and unmanned aeronautic and space flight systems and platforms, including in every major U.S. human space flight program ranging since inception through ISS."

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #6 on: 04/13/2005 01:53 AM »
That's very cool info. Maybe it would do well to be put into an article form to help explain this all a bit more.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #7 on: 04/14/2005 11:17 PM »
your attachment above does't seem to work :(

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #8 on: 04/15/2005 10:39 AM »
It does, you just have to tell your computer that it is a picture (either by opening it into Picture Viewer, or Paint, or Gimp, or by giving it the extension .jpg)

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #9 on: 04/15/2005 03:17 PM »
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SpaceMad - 13/4/2005  2:53 AM

That's very cool info. Maybe it would do well to be put into an article form to help explain this all a bit more.

On the case.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #10 on: 04/15/2005 03:17 PM »
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WARPed - 12/4/2005  11:21 PM

Would these modules be re-useable and if so in what sense.  Would they stay in orbit after use, with a transit module taking supplies and astronauts to/from them (can't see this as what wold be done regarding maintenance), would they have some way of returning to earth/re-entry (doesn't look likely from the concepts) or are they going to be destroyed after each use?

The CEV is not a reusable vehicle.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #11 on: 04/19/2005 08:52 PM »
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WARPed - 12/4/2005  11:21 PM

Would these modules be re-useable and if so in what sense.  Would they stay in orbit after use, with a transit module taking supplies and astronauts to/from them (can't see this as what wold be done regarding maintenance), would they have some way of returning to earth/re-entry (doesn't look likely from the concepts) or are they going to be destroyed after each use?

The CEV is not a reusable vehicle.

I thought it was?

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #12 on: 04/19/2005 09:35 PM »
Nope. At least not the designs I've seen.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #13 on: 04/26/2005 01:58 PM »
Some parts might be reuseable, ie a solar electric LEO to LLO stage or a Luna landing craft. The only fully reuseable design I've seen so far is from tSpace.


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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #15 on: 07/05/2005 10:14 AM »
Anything more since?

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #16 on: 07/31/2005 07:17 AM »
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No shocks:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=2907
This should happen right now.  I wish they'd just head to Mars faster, too.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #17 on: 08/01/2005 05:07 PM »
I think this thread is best on here too.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #18 on: 08/05/2005 03:26 AM »
What thread, did you miss something? ;)
Let's go and explore space.

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RE: CEV Breaking news and update thread
« Reply #19 on: 08/05/2005 04:07 AM »
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=1055

Check out the concepts. One of them is a 4 SRB, 4 SSME, 14.8 million lbs of thrust monster.

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