Quote from: FinalFrontier on 08/02/2012 11:09 pmQuote from: jongoff on 08/02/2012 11:08 pmInteresting note, but Alan Boyle of NBC is reporting on twitter that:"SpaceX, Boeing and Sierra Nevada selected to receive money from NASA for future spaceships, NBC reports."I'm personally not going to trust anything until I hear it tomorrow morning, but if true, that would definitely point to me having been too cynical.~JonWait wait wait they said what? Where did you see that they cannot possibly know that yet unless they are reading it on our site or L2 and thinking its fact. First of all.Second of all its not true because we don't even know what the selection was on L2 yet. Its not being released to ANYONE until tomorrow not even people at NASA know. Would like to see that link. https://twitter.com/b0yle
Quote from: jongoff on 08/02/2012 11:08 pmInteresting note, but Alan Boyle of NBC is reporting on twitter that:"SpaceX, Boeing and Sierra Nevada selected to receive money from NASA for future spaceships, NBC reports."I'm personally not going to trust anything until I hear it tomorrow morning, but if true, that would definitely point to me having been too cynical.~JonWait wait wait they said what? Where did you see that they cannot possibly know that yet unless they are reading it on our site or L2 and thinking its fact. First of all.Second of all its not true because we don't even know what the selection was on L2 yet. Its not being released to ANYONE until tomorrow not even people at NASA know. Would like to see that link.
Interesting note, but Alan Boyle of NBC is reporting on twitter that:"SpaceX, Boeing and Sierra Nevada selected to receive money from NASA for future spaceships, NBC reports."I'm personally not going to trust anything until I hear it tomorrow morning, but if true, that would definitely point to me having been too cynical.~Jon
Premature chicken counter.
Boeing Co. and Space Exploration Technologies Corp. on Friday are expected to win the bulk of as much as $1 billion in federal awards to spur development of next-generation manned spacecraft, according to industry officials.
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the industry officials said
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NASA, Sierra Nevada and SpaceX, as the Southern California company is called, declined to comment.
https://twitter.com/b0yle/status/231162713106182145http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443545504577565532898170476.htmlChicago-based Boeing and closely-held Space Exploration Technologies, based in Hawthorne, Calif., appear poised to split most of the money tentatively earmarked by NASA and lawmakers for such systems, the industry officials said. The total amount available is likely to be between $800 and $1 billion through the middle of 2014.Closely-held Sierra Nevada Corp., a manufacturer of satellite components and other aerospace hardware that is based in Sparks, Nev., seems likely to emerge with a substantially smaller award, according to the officials. After lengthy battles with congressional leaders, NASA chief Charles Bolden agreed there would be two primary winners, plus a third choice that would receive less funding, they said.
Hum, what is an industry official?
From the WSJ article;Quoteaccording to industry officialsQuotethe industry officials saidQuoteaccording to the officialsQuoteNASA, Sierra Nevada and SpaceX, as the Southern California company is called, declined to comment.Hum, what is an industry official?
http://xkcd.com/978/
http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/02/13091777-boeing-spacex-and-sierra-nevada-to-win-nasa-backing-for-spaceshipsTeams headed by the Boeing Co., SpaceX and Sierra Nevada Corp. will be receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from NASA over the next 21 months for further development of spaceships capable of transporting astronauts to and from the International Space Station, knowledgeable sources told NBC News today.NASA is to make the official announcement of the winning commercial teams on Friday morning — but NBC News' Cape Canaveral correspondent, Jay Barbree, received word from two sources who were informed of the decision in advance, on condition of anonymity. The sources did not discuss how much money any of the companies would be receiving.
Quote from: marsavian on 08/03/2012 12:32 amhttp://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/02/13091777-boeing-spacex-and-sierra-nevada-to-win-nasa-backing-for-spaceshipsTeams headed by the Boeing Co., SpaceX and Sierra Nevada Corp. will be receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from NASA over the next 21 months for further development of spaceships capable of transporting astronauts to and from the International Space Station, knowledgeable sources told NBC News today.NASA is to make the official announcement of the winning commercial teams on Friday morning — but NBC News' Cape Canaveral correspondent, Jay Barbree, received word from two sources who were informed of the decision in advance, on condition of anonymity. The sources did not discuss how much money any of the companies would be receiving.I'll still wait for the official announcement.My picks were: Boeing CST-100 & DC fully funded, with ATK partially funded (due to the politics of it all).Not that I have anything wrong with SpaceX. I just feel they can do it on their own (and will, regardless). Boeing to me being the most mature company, and DreamChaser being a great secondary 'objective'. But if SpaceX gets the nod, I congratulate them and hope they can expedite this NEED for the ISS.
Quote from: robertross on 08/03/2012 12:43 amQuote from: marsavian on 08/03/2012 12:32 amhttp://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/02/13091777-boeing-spacex-and-sierra-nevada-to-win-nasa-backing-for-spaceshipsTeams headed by the Boeing Co., SpaceX and Sierra Nevada Corp. will be receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from NASA over the next 21 months for further development of spaceships capable of transporting astronauts to and from the International Space Station, knowledgeable sources told NBC News today.NASA is to make the official announcement of the winning commercial teams on Friday morning — but NBC News' Cape Canaveral correspondent, Jay Barbree, received word from two sources who were informed of the decision in advance, on condition of anonymity. The sources did not discuss how much money any of the companies would be receiving.I'll still wait for the official announcement.My picks were: Boeing CST-100 & DC fully funded, with ATK partially funded (due to the politics of it all).Not that I have anything wrong with SpaceX. I just feel they can do it on their own (and will, regardless). Boeing to me being the most mature company, and DreamChaser being a great secondary 'objective'. But if SpaceX gets the nod, I congratulate them and hope they can expedite this NEED for the ISS.No sure I understand your reasoning. The fact that SpaceX can do it on their own is not a reason for not fully funding them if they are equally or more capable that another contender. Funding on the basis of capability and capacity should be the requirement, not simply capacity to go it alone. If that's the case, the Boeing should also not be funded since they have demonstrably greater capacity than SpaceX to continue alone.
{snip}SpaceX has repeatedly said they will go it alone to Mars (which requires a manned vehicle), so to me they don't need a fully funded case. A partial award would no doubt be great.
Quote from: robertross on 08/03/2012 02:01 am{snip}SpaceX has repeatedly said they will go it alone to Mars (which requires a manned vehicle), so to me they don't need a fully funded case. A partial award would no doubt be great. If SpaceX went allow they would need the ability to dock with their Mars transfer vehicle, the ability to dock with the ISS is a luxury. So SpaceX could simply buy one of the Russian docking systems and get on with going to Mars. This would not help NASA.
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