Author Topic: Commercial space flight shows reignited interest in the Air Launch system  (Read 7007 times)

Offline Chris Bergin

Didn't want to just rehash the Virgin Galactic presser, so wrote an overview of Air Launch around the news.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/07/commercial-shows-reignited-interest-air-launch-system/
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Good review Chris!

It certainly seems that air launch's advantages have finally caught on.  Next step: supersonic motherships that can release Heavy class payloads at >100 kft. (hey, I can dream ;) )
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excellent article Chris!

(Thanks for the timing correction - Chris).
« Last Edit: 07/13/2012 03:44 pm by Chris Bergin »

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Good review Chris!

It certainly seems that air launch's advantages have finally caught on.  Next step: supersonic motherships that can release Heavy class payloads at >100 kft. (hey, I can dream ;) )

OT sorry.

has anyone ever proposed doing this with a XB-70 Valkyrie type mothership?

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Good review Chris!

It certainly seems that air launch's advantages have finally caught on.  Next step: supersonic motherships that can release Heavy class payloads at >100 kft. (hey, I can dream ;) )

OT sorry.

has anyone ever proposed doing this with a XB-70 Valkyrie type mothership?
I have, but who listens to me. 8)
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Nice article Chris! I like the side by side comparison of the various systems. I have my own idea, but I’ll just keep to myself for now… ;)
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Good review Chris!

It certainly seems that air launch's advantages have finally caught on.  Next step: supersonic motherships that can release Heavy class payloads at >100 kft. (hey, I can dream ;) )

OT sorry.

has anyone ever proposed doing this with a XB-70 Valkyrie type mothership?
I have, but who listens to me. 8)
I do! :)
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Offline Chris Bergin

Nice article Chris! I like the side by side comparison of the various systems. I have my own idea, but I’ll just keep to myself for now… ;)

Cheers Robert. Was kinda required to give Pegasus its props, while noting it's exciting to see new vehicles.
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Good review Chris!

It certainly seems that air launch's advantages have finally caught on.  Next step: supersonic motherships that can release Heavy class payloads at >100 kft. (hey, I can dream ;) )

OT sorry.

has anyone ever proposed doing this with a XB-70 Valkyrie type mothership?
I have, but who listens to me. 8)
I do! :)

This was the whole idea behind the Blackstar program.
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Good article. I like the way you showed just how much penalty there is for gravity, pressure and drag, respectively.
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"designer Burt Rutan is developing" - I think that is incorrect. Burt Rutan's company, Scaled Composites, is doing the work, but not Burt Rutan himself. He is retired and this work is done by his successors. I think he said the Stratolauncher is ugly.

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....Burt Rutan's company, Scaled Composites, is doing the work....

That would be Northrop Grumman's company now.
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No mention of the AirLaunch LLC "QuickReach" concept? Is that because it would have been dropped out the back of a cargo aircraft rather than strapped underneath?
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No mention of C-5 Galaxy / Minuteman air launch system? ;)

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And on the lighter-than-air front, Rockoon?
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Vozdushniy Start?  :)
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Or some blasts from the past:

Pilot
Caleb/Hi-Hoe
Sparoair
Genie ALARR
Bold Orion
High Virgo
ASM-135A ASAT
A whole bunch of X-craft
(ISTR a large variety of air-launched combos in the early years at Wallops)

Not all orbital, true...

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Interesting article. The long pole in air launch has always been the launch aircraft. Pegasus can only met the small LEO market, which is quite small. Anything larger requires a new, very large custom-designed aircraft.

Rather than simply competing with Pegasus for a handful of launches, maybe Orbital or Virgin could propose testing a small test rocket (with the Stagazer or WKII) that would demonstrate the use of cryogenic liquid propellants in an air-launched rocket, either with active cooling or with inflight propellant loading. This would fill in a lot of uncertainties.

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